skyguyB727
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TSA Odd Comments About Liquids/Gels

Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:07 am

Today while going through a TSA airport checkpoint, I saw the man ahead of me pull a gallon size (not quart) zip top bag chock full of containers of liquids out of his bag and put it in the screening tray. No one from the TSA batted an eye. Not one TSA officer commented on the excess quantity of liquids/gels even though the bag was in full view to everyone.

After I passed through, I asked two TSA officers if the rules had changed. They said the size of the bag and the size of the containers inside the bag do not matter. They said the only thing that matters is how much liquid/gel is inside each containter. They told me that the x-ray allowed them to see if the containers were half full, 1/4 full, or whatever. Based on what they saw on the x-ray, they could determine the quantity of liquid inside each container.

They also told me that the liquid restriction depends on the airport. They actually said that some airports don't care about liquids/gels at all.

When the TSA first implemented the liquid/gel restriction, a TSA officer once told me that no container over 100 ml was allowed through a checkpoint even if it was completely empty and bone dry at the time. He told me specifically that if, at any time in the past, a container held more than 100 ml of a liquid, the empty container could not be brought through a checkpoint. Contrast that with what I was told by the TSA today. It's no wonder people are confused. Can anyone explain this inconsistency?
 
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RE: TSA Odd Comments About Liquids/Gels

Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:11 am

from what I understand, they are worried about total quantity and the ability to mix it effectively. But considering those who are on the front lines are not trained chemists or experienced bomb makers, not sure how any judgment call they make, even if based on training or a manual, can be anything but theater. And considering you can buy larger containers in the airport, mixing really isn't that much of a problem for those inclined.
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RE: TSA Odd Comments About Liquids/Gels

Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:39 am

You know you are talking about TSA right? When have they ever make any sense??
 
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RE: TSA Odd Comments About Liquids/Gels

Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:42 am

TSA= consistently inconsistent
 
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RE: TSA Odd Comments About Liquids/Gels

Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:39 am

I found that at 99% of airports I fly out of, the TSA could care less about liquids...I don't know why they still have that rule. I pack full size bottles in my carry-ons all the time, and I have only been stopped once, and even then they let me pass with the shampoo bottle after "inspection".
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RE: TSA Odd Comments About Liquids/Gels

Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:08 am

TSA official policies according to their website are not airport specific but nation-wide. They also say that there are things that are up to the discresion of the officer. Also with liquids I find that the smaller airports are the most strict when "enforcing" the size limits where as the larger ones give a little more lattitude.
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RE: TSA Odd Comments About Liquids/Gels

Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:59 am

I once got a stern lecture from a TSA screener that my bag was to large even though contents were in full compliance with 3-1-1. It seemed more power trip to me then trying to be helpful but what can one do? I'm sure TSA would have responded to a complaint by saying he was following all rules and procedures correctly. When that rule started it took me forever to get used to taking the little baggie out and half the time I just forgot and was never caught. I usually carry Listerine breath strips in my pocket and I can't tell you how many times that's come up on pat down that I didn't take them out. Very easy item to miss. My last trip I forgot to take my square plastic letter opener out of my GPS bag and leave it home. Now that was really dumb of me. I love that letter opener. I could have had it taken away, but it slipped right thru airports in 4 states. Long story short some of these things are much easier to see in the X-ray then others. From my dated 25 years ago doing the airport security job in another era perspective a full tube of toothpaste or pinky fingernail size letter opener razor blade probably isn't that easy to see but I wouldn't knowingly risk it. I've criticized foolish TSA policies and abusive behavior from the screeners on numerous occasions but can't condone anyone attempting to circumvent them.
 
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RE: TSA Odd Comments About Liquids/Gels

Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:30 am

I've sometimes left some Chapstick in my parka pocket and went thru numerous airports with it with no problems.
 
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RE: TSA Odd Comments About Liquids/Gels

Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:32 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 5):
Also with liquids I find that the smaller airports are the most strict when "enforcing" the size limits where as the larger ones give a little more lattitude.

  

Both my wife and my mother like to push the size limits. The only places they have ever been hassled or required to throw anything out are smaller airports.
 
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RE: TSA Odd Comments About Liquids/Gels

Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:15 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 5):
Also with liquids I find that the smaller airports are the most strict when "enforcing" the size limits where as the larger ones give a little more lattitude.

Absolutely. The agents at smaller airports tend to be on power trips far more often.
 
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RE: TSA Odd Comments About Liquids/Gels

Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:55 am

Quoting skyguyB727 (Thread starter):
When the TSA first implemented the liquid/gel restriction, a TSA officer once told me that no container over 100 ml was allowed through a checkpoint even if it was completely empty and bone dry at the time

Which was a lie.

Quoting skyguyB727 (Thread starter):

After I passed through, I asked two TSA officers if the rules had changed.

Which is also a lie.


At least the most recent lie was of a benefit to the public.
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