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US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:03 pm

Silly topic maybe but following the topic "CNN Marks Airbus 380 5 Year Anniversary" (http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5625245/) and one comment made on the CNN discussion board stating the following nonsense:

"Boeing outsold airbus in 2012 and still has a greater number of planes in the global fleet. Also no, ive been flying for years and ive never seen an airbus in a domestic us airport. The only airbuses I have seen in the United States fly in from Europe. Most Americans know better than to buy inferior frog made products." (by AmazingDX111)

I was wondering if there was any US airports that hardly/never ever see Airbus aircrafts, whether flying domestic or international?
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:07 pm

I would assume the writer would not know an Airbus if he was flying on one.
 
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RE: US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:08 pm

I would think that DAL would be one unless it is for a charter or private flight. Just the one of the top of my head for busier airports. You could go with a lot of small airports to avoid Airbus as they are all on regional jets.
 
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RE: US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:08 pm

Quoting vinniewinnie (Thread starter):
I was wondering if there was any US airports that hardly/never ever see Airbus aircrafts, whether flying domestic or international?

It is probably a shorter list to put those that do. Considering the thousands of airports in the country.
 
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RE: US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:08 pm

Quoting vinniewinnie (Thread starter):
I was wondering if there was any US airports that hardly/never ever see Airbus aircrafts, whether flying domestic or international?

Many. Start with pretty much every smaller airport served largely or entirely with regional jets.
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:28 pm

Post-mergers, there are very few airports left that do not see some degree of Airbus traffic (if they receive more than 5 =10 mainline flights per day).

ANC - currently only sees 1 Airbus (A319) per day PHX-ANC

MIA & DFW - receive a very low percentage of total movements, primarily since the largest airline (AA) does not operate Airbus aircraft (currently).
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:35 pm

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 4):
Many. Start with pretty much every smaller airport served largely or entirely with regional jets.

Until FedEx drops in an A300/310 for cargo.
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:46 pm

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 5):
ANC - currently only sees 1 Airbus (A319) per day PHX-ANC

In the Summer season, F9 sends the usual A319 1x a day. FAI sees the same thing from F9.

Does anyone know if Bremerton National Airport (PWT) has ever seen an Airbus? It has seen the 707, 727 and 737 as far as I know.

I don't think Jeffco/Rocky Mountain Airport (BJC) has seen an Airbus, but it has seen a 737-200. Anyone know??
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:51 pm

Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 5):

ANC - currently only sees 1 Airbus (A319) per day PHX-ANC

That's off-season since I know of at least one more airline (B6) that flies Airbuses to ANC.

I'm not exactly sure what the point of the OP is because there seems there are several contradictions in it. Of the 300 or so US commercial airports, I'd guess that a good 60% don't see any regular Airbus aircraft but that's because they don't see anything approaching 100-seat aircraft of any type. Of the airports that do see regular aircraft of 100 seats or more, it depends on who the major carriers are that serve the airport. There are some airports, i.e., DTW, JFK, FLL, PHX, CLT, where it is a steady stream of Airbus aircraft mixed with other types. At PHL, you are more likely to see Airbus narrowbody equipment than Boeing narrowbody equipment.

The quote referenced in the OP is absurd.
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:51 pm

Before the UA/CO merger CLE did not see much, if any Airbus traffic

Before the NW/DL merger, CVG did not see much, if any Airbus traffic.
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:56 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 7):
In the Summer season, F9 sends the usual A319 1x a day. FAI sees the same thing from F9.

I would guess that Alaska would be the US State with the most airports that don't see Airbus flights since AS dominates and they only fly the 737.
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:58 pm

Hawaii sees very little airbus traffic.
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:02 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 10):
I would guess that Alaska would be the US State with the most airports that don't see Airbus flights since AS dominates and they only fly the 737.

True, I agree. However, it was noted that UA and B6 sends (or will send) an Airbus up there.
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:06 pm

Quoting Jetskipper (Reply 11):
Hawaii sees very little airbus traffic.

Except for HA's 10 A332s, among others...
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:06 pm

Quoting Jetskipper (Reply 11):
Hawaii sees very little airbus traffic.

Is that a joke? With a rather large and growing A330 fleet of the home carrier?
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:06 pm

Quoting Jetskipper (Reply 11):
Hawaii sees very little airbus traffic.

Maybe the smaller airports, but certainly not HNL, since Hawaiian is an A330 operator.

My guess is there are very few places that are jet-capable that have never, ever seen any Airbus land there at all, but there are some places where it's really rare.

For now, it's very unusual to see any Airbus at BLI - thought that will change once Allegiant gets A319s in quantity. I'm guessing, however, that at some point at least one Airbus has landed there.
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:08 pm

Quoting Cargolex (Reply 15):
I'm guessing, however, that at some point at least one Airbus has landed there.

F9 has been there.
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RE: US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:14 pm

Quoting richierich (Reply 8):
I'm not exactly sure what the point of the OP is because there seems there are several contradictions in it. Of the 300 or so US commercial airports

You are right in terms of the smaller airports. It didn't cross my mind to be honest! There is little point in this topic other than the fact that it is different and a little more fun than the usual topics!

How about MDW? Huge Southwest fortress must have little to no airbus's!
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:16 pm

Quoting Jetskipper (Reply 11):
Hawaii sees very little airbus traffic.

Don't the Hawaiian A330 count? As an example: HA11 / N388HA is now inbound from SFO and will land around 45 minutes from now at HNL.
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:19 pm

FWA has never seen a scheduled passenger Airbus of any kind, and almost all the pax charters from FWA are on 737s or DC-9s/MD-80s with the occasional EV lawn dart thrown in. However, FWA does see A32x during weather diversions from ORD, DTW, and others, and FedEx and UPS occasionally send in A300 freighters as opposed to the normal 757s during the holidays.

That may change, however, if G4 sends their A319s to FWA from SFB and other cities (or if F9 decides to start FWA).

Quoting vinniewinnie (Reply 17):
How about MDW? Huge Southwest fortress must have little to no airbus's!
F9, DL, Volaris, and Interjet all send A32x to MDW.

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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:20 pm

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 4):
Many. Start with pretty much every smaller airport served largely or entirely with regional jets.

I was going to say, SBA came to mind. They did see UA 733's for a while, but never an Airbus AFAIK unless it was an ACJ.
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:34 pm

Quoting vinniewinnie (Thread starter):
I was wondering if there was any US airports that hardly/never ever see Airbus aircrafts, whether flying domestic or international?

YES - All U.S. Airports that aren't FAR Part 139 and that is 90% of U.S. Airports
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:41 pm

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 21):
YES - All U.S. Airports that aren't FAR Part 139 and that is 90% of U.S. Airports

And I guess Boeing aren't building aircraft with less than 31 seats anymore  
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:43 pm

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 21):
YES - All U.S. Airports that aren't FAR Part 139 and that is 90% of U.S. Airports

  Then again, no Boeings at those airports either.
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:45 pm

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 5):

MIA & DFW - receive a very low percentage of total movements, primarily since the largest airline (AA) does not operate Airbus aircraft (currently).

MIA still sees a lot of Airbus aircraft however

Domestic - Delta A319/A320, United A320, US A320

International

Avianca - A318/A319/A320/A330 - multiple daily flights
Taca - A319/A320/A321 - multiple flights
Lufthansa - varies throughout the year A330/A343/A346/A388
Air Berlin - A332
Alitalia - A332
Swiss - A333/A343 - varies
Virgin - A343/A346 alternate with 744
Aeroflot - A332
TAP Portugal - A332
Fed Ex - A300/A310
UPS - A300
Air Canada - A320
Interjet - A320
TAM - A332
Iberia - A343/A346
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:46 pm

This is an interesting question that has me thinking. BNA has to be an airport that doesn't get alot of Airbus traffic with the large WN presence...though DL would be realistically the only carrier who would operate the type in there.

I know F9 and the occasional DL flight into MDW are Airbus...but that has to be mainly a Boeing airport as well.

With AS being an all Boeing fleet, does anyone operate an Airbus up to ANC?

There are lots of other airports I can think of that see almost no Airbus. SGU, BGR, ELM, ITH, ISP, BGM, CHO, CWA, AGS, GSP, OAJ are a few that come immediately to mind.  
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:52 pm

Quoting tp1040 (Reply 1):
I would assume the writer would not know an Airbus if he was flying on one.

Either that that person is lying. Even if flying from a small airport on a regional jet, that RJ has to land somewhere and almost 100% of the time that somewhere is a major airport with Airbuses.
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:56 pm

If you narrowed the list to say Class B and C airports, I wonder how many actually make the list of having no airbus grace their runways. I'd imagine not very many. Just for fun, I listed airports that do not have airbus visits on a regular basis. I omitted the military bases.

CLASS B

HOU/KHOU William P. Hobby Airport


CLASS C Airports:

Alabama
HSV / KHSV Huntsville International Airport (Carl T. Jones Field)
MOB / KMOB Mobile Regional Airport

Arkansas
XNA / KXNA Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport (Fayetteville/Springdale)

California
SBA / KSBA Santa Barbara Municipal Airport

Florida
DAB / KDAB Daytona Beach International Airport
PNS / KPNS Pensacola Regional Airport
SFB / KSFB Orlando Sanford International Airport (This may not be correct)
TLH / KTLH Tallahassee Regional Airport

Georgia
SAV / KSAV Savannah/Hilton Head International Airport

Hawaii
OGG / PHOG Kahului Airport (Maui)

Illinois
CMI / KCMI University of Illinois Willard Airport (Champaign-Urbana)
MLI / KMLI Quad City International Airport (Moline)
SPI / KSPI Abraham Lincoln Capital Airport (Springfield)

Indiana
EVV / KEVV Evansville Regional Airport
FWA / KFWA Fort Wayne International Airport

Kentucky
LEX / KLEX Blue Grass Airport (Lexington)

Louisiana
BTR / KBTR Baton Rouge Metropolitan Airport (Ryan Field)
LFT / KLFT Lafayette Regional Airport

Maine
BGR / KBGR Bangor Regional Airport *Note: most arrivals/departures seemed to be fuel stops and not actually regularly scheduled flights.

Michigan
LAN / KLAN Capital Region International Airport (Lansing Capital City)

Nebraska
LNK / KLNK Lincoln Airport

New York
ISP / KISP Long Island MacArthur Airport (Islip)

North Carolina
AVL / KAVL Asheville Regional Airport

Ohio
TOL / KTOL Toledo Express Airport

South Carolina
GSP / KGSP Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport

Tennessee
CHA / KCHA Chattanooga Metropolitan Airport (Lovell Field)

Texas
ABI / KABI Abilene Regional Airport
AMA / KAMA Rick Husband Amarillo International Airport (no scheduled airbus if you omit the UA paints)
CRP / KCRP Corpus Christi International Airport
MAF / KMAF Midland International Airport (Midland-Odessa)
SAT / KSAT San Antonio International Airport

West Virginia
CRW / KCRW Yeager Airport (Charleston)

Wisconsin
GRB / KGRB Austin Straubel International Airport (Green Bay)
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RE: US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:06 pm

In SEA we see just about all........except the 380......we did have the 340, for a while, too, up until SAS stopped flying to SEA.

Air Canada only uses the 319/320 seasonally SEA-YYZ....usually it is the E95.

Alaska has none in their fleet, and American has not flown an Airbus into SEA.

Notable international carrier that uses the A330 is Hainan into SEA. All the other foreign flag carriers into SEA use 747 or 777.
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:11 pm

Quoting kordcj (Reply 27):
CLASS B

HOU/KHOU William P. Hobby Airport

Isn't Jetblue flying in to Hobby then?
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:18 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 12):
True, I agree. However, it was noted that UA and B6 sends (or will send) an Airbus up there.

UA originally had SEA-ANC long before the merger but stopped a few years ago. It used to be a 320. Since the CO merger, it's only been boeing. However, that doesn't mean that ANC trips on UA from other cities to ANC won't send them........I can only speak for SEA.
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:19 pm

Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 29):
Quoting kordcj (Reply 27):
CLASS B

HOU/KHOU William P. Hobby Airport

Isn't Jetblue flying in to Hobby then?

I think B6 uses the E190 into HOU, but I'm not sure.
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:23 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 31):
I think B6 uses the E190 into HOU, but I'm not sure.

According to their website, both flights are with E190s.
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Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:39 pm

Quoting apodino (Reply 25):
BNA has to be an airport that doesn't get alot of Airbus traffic with the large WN presence...though DL would be realistically the only carrier who would operate the type in there.

F9, DL, and US all fly A32X into BNA. I'm scheduled to fly a US A319 CLT-BNA on Christmas Eve.
 
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RE: US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:38 am

Quoting kordcj (Reply 27):
SFB / KSFB Orlando Sanford International Airport (This may not be correct)

SFB gets A330s and occasionally I see a jetblue 320 charter.
 
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:44 am

What about BFI or PAE  
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:47 am

Quoting Cargolex (Reply 15):
For now, it's very unusual to see any Airbus at BLI - thought that will change once Allegiant gets A319s in quantity. I'm guessing, however, that at some point at least one Airbus has landed there.

BLI did have an A319 operator in Skybus for a little while, at least

Quoting kordcj (Reply 27):
SAT / KSAT San Antonio International Airport

SAT gets Interjet A320s if I remember correctly.

For a long while in the mid 1990s, DFW was easily the largest airport in the US that didn't see an Airbus flight. American never flew the A300-600 there and America West generally flew only the 737s in. Over time, that went away.

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Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:48 am

Quoting vinniewinnie (Reply 17):
How about MDW? Huge Southwest fortress must have little to no airbus's!

You're forgetting about F9's service to DEN, DL's service to ATL, and also Y4's services to Mexico. All of those utilize Airbuses for at least some of their flights.

Quoting kordcj (Reply 27):
California

SBP also goes on this part of the list; they have had 737 service from AS (it has been discontinued), but no Airbus service. Now they see a mix of E120s (UA) and CR2s (US).
 
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:00 am

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 37):
You're forgetting about F9's service to DEN, DL's service to ATL, and also Y4's services to Mexico. All of those utilize Airbuses for at least some of their flights.

All ATL flights are Airbus'
 
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:06 am

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 38):

Thanks for the clarification. FlightAware showed Airbus aircraft operating the route, but I didn't look at all of the flights for today, and I seem to recall MD-88s serving the route a few years ago; that's why I wasn't sure.
 
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RE: US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:04 am

Quoting apodino (Reply 25):
With AS being an all Boeing fleet, does anyone operate an Airbus up to ANC?

If you have read the thread, it was mentioned that F9 does seasonally from DEN to ANC & FAI and UA (used to...) has sent the Airbus up there. I wonder if NW has sent an Airbus up there....or was it always a 757?
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:45 am

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 37):
SBP also goes on this part of the list; they have had 737 service from AS (it has been discontinued), but no Airbus service. Now they see a mix of E120s (UA) and CR2s (US).

Yeah I didn't do Class D airports. The list for was Class B and C airports.

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 36):
SAT gets Interjet A320s if I remember correctly.

For a long while in the mid 1990s, DFW was easily the largest airport in the US that didn't see an Airbus flight. American never flew the A300-600 there and America West generally flew only the 737s in. Over time, that went away.

You're right, I don't know how I left SAT on there. UPS, FedEx, DL, UA, US all send a bus there.
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:45 am

Quoting richierich (Reply 8):
CLT

I'd say that CLT sees airbus equipment more than any other mainline type.
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:04 am

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 36):
For a long while in the mid 1990s, DFW was easily the largest airport in the US that didn't see an Airbus flight.

Didn't see an Airbus flight? I know they saw at minimum 1 daily. HP flew A320s at least once a day to PHX. I flew that segment frequently in late 1995-Mid 1996.
 
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RE: US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:07 am

I don't know how much US flies mainline into ALB, but since B6 doesn't fly there, its the best bet in Upstate NY.

Edit: Looking on Flightaware, US flies mainline 734 in the last 24 hours, and not even Fedex/UPS flew Airbus in. Turns out one UA 319 threw my theory, which surprised me as UA doesn't fly any mainline into SYR.

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RE: US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:52 am

Quoting kordcj (Reply 27):
CLASS B

HOU/KHOU William P. Hobby Airport

What about DAL? WN, UA, DL, no Airbuses.
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RE: US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:59 am

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 14):
Hawaii sees very little airbus traffic.

Is that a joke? With a rather large and growing A330 fleet of the home carrier?


It is correct....the Island of Hawai'i does not currently see Airbus equipment

And I would throw Juneau, Sitka, Ketchikan, Wrangell and Petersburg into that mix.
 
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:02 am

Quoting Jetskipper (Reply 11):
Hawaii sees very little airbus traffic.
Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 14):
Is that a joke? With a rather large and growing A330 fleet of the home carrier?
Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 18):
Don't the Hawaiian A330 count? As an example: HA11 / N388HA is now inbound from SFO and will land around 45 minutes from now at HNL.

Jetskipper's statement is true. Notice he said Hawaii. As a whole, the State of Hawaii has very few Airbus flights. At the moment, only 7 out of the 25 airlines that service HNL use Airbus equipment for flights for a total of about 20 daily movements. HNL averages about 780 daily movements (all operations). HNL defines a movement as a takeoff and landing. LIH, OGG, KOA, and ITO all have flights going out of state, in addition to the interisland flights, and have zero flights using Airbus equipment.
 
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RE: US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:18 am

Quoting CO777DAL (Reply 45):
What about DAL? WN, UA, DL, no Airbuses.

Scheduled? Correct, no Airbus, however on the north side of the field, at Associated (or whatever it is officially called now), there are usually 2-3 ACJ models being outfitted for their future owners. The Oman Royal Flight A320 has been there during most of 2012, for example.
There are also Air Canada Jetz A320s in from time to time, though not as much this fall with the NHL still locked out.

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RE: US Airports That Never See Airbus Aircrafts?

Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:36 am

Why are we trying to defend this idiot? Its safe to say he's never been to an airport that doesn't see an Airbus.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 26):
Either that that person is lying. Even if flying from a small airport on a regional jet, that RJ has to land somewhere and almost 100% of the time that somewhere is a major airport with Airbuses.

Correct. Anywhere that dick has been that saw a European Airbus had at least 50+ daily domestic Airbus flights.

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