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First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:41 pm

I guess many of you have seen it already:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...CFGFG%7Ctwitterfeed%7CFlightglobal

Pictures of the first A350.

What do you guys think? Like? Dislike?

Thanks.

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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:47 pm

WOWWWWWWW

Times flies so fast... when is first flight schedule??

It looks awesome and weird at the same time.... because the parts missing and the paint but it will be an awesome plane...

i don´t know why but i though she´s going to get the same landing gear than a B777 but maybe that´s only for the -1000 version.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:49 pm

I love it.
Thanks for posting wilco737.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:52 pm

It looks much sleaker than I thought it would!! It's going to be one hot plane  
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:53 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Thread starter):
What do you guys think? Like? Dislike?

Hmm, aesthetically, it doesn't look too appealing at this stage. Let's wait and see how it looks when it's more progressed, particularly with engines.
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:55 pm

Quoting AntonovA330 (Reply 4):
Let's wait and see how it looks when it's more progressed, particularly with engines.

It already looks much better then in the computer renders imho. And with the engines, the wing tips and a paint job it will look stunning imho.  .
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:55 pm

Quoting AntonovA330 (Reply 4):
particularly with engines.

Yes, the engines make a big difference in the general look. Without engines it looks strange, but I guess with engines attached it could look a lot better than it does now.

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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:58 pm

Hmm.. looks like a 757 to me.. but, that's just my opinion..
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:02 pm

I already think it's sexier then the 777. I'll hold off on a final opinion until it's painted though.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:05 pm

I kind of like it.

As you said - without engines it has this "ready to scrap" look, but once they are mounted it will look quite nice.
To me, the MLG looks surprisingly long (but maybe that's also because no engines are next to it yet).
Maybe the -1000 will look much more massive when it gets the T7 MLG.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:08 pm

How tall is the 350? It looks like its belly is awkwardly high off the ground but it may just be the picture angles.
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:14 pm

Quoting 0NEWAIR0 (Reply 10):

How tall is the 350? It looks like its belly is awkwardly high off the ground but it may just be the picture angles.

It's missing the undercarriage and engines. I think once those are on, it won't look so fragile.  
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:15 pm

The wheels are interesting.. Obviously the nose design is based on the A380 but looks a lot more stylish (the gear bay is similar) also the main landing gear looks different... Apparently it is very similar to the design used on the VC10... I'm looking forward to seeing the completed bird!
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:18 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Thread starter):

It is not really the roll-out it is moving it from one production station to another, just like they move the fuselage on wheels to the station it was removed from for wing installation.
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:18 pm

Quoting 0NEWAIR0 (Reply 10):
How tall is the 350? It looks like its belly is awkwardly high off the ground but it may just be the picture angles.

So much weight still to come.... just the engines are a few tonnes, plus interiors, equipments.... and undercarriages..
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:20 pm

Quoting zeke (Reply 13):
It is not really the roll-out it is moving it from one production station to another, just like they move the fuselage on wheels to the station it was removed from for wing installation.

I just quoted the headling the article used...

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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:22 pm

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 7):
looks like a 757 to me.. but, that's just my opinion..

Not just your opinion! Except for the nose it looks a lot like a 757 (to me at least), and that's a good thing!  
Quoting LostSound (Reply 8):
I already think it's sexier then the 777

Although I am a bit of an A-fanboy I must say there a few things sexier than the 777, and at the moment the A350 isn't one of them (yet).

Quoting LostSound (Reply 11):
It's missing the undercarriage

Check below where the wheels are attached, it think that might be the undercarriage.
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:23 pm

Came out at the right time of year with that nose eh.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:29 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 15):
I just quoted the headling the article used...

I understand, rollout is a milestone used in industry normally associated with the completion of assembly and moving to the flight line. The time between rollout and first flight is often indicative of delays in the testing.

WingedMigrator (http://www.airliners.net/profile/wingedmigrator) has done a great chart tracking the different production steps on previous programs, milestones like rollout come to an important marker when comparisons are made, it helps us track delays.
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:47 pm

Nose is all wrong for an Airbus. In fact, it looks just as wrong as the nose of a 787. Don't like neither, though I am a big fan of the spiritual ancestor of both: The Comet. Too bad both Toulouse and Seattle made such a crap job of copying it.
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:49 pm

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 19):
Too bad both Toulouse and Seattle made such a crap job of copying it.

I guess the laws of aerodynamics are to blame. And not Seattle or Toulouse.  . And I think both the B787 and A350 are looking very good.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:51 pm

The profile of the front reminds me of the Vanguard/Merchantman


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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:52 pm

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 16):
few things sexier than the 777

It's all in opinion, to me the 777 doesn't have really any style. Kind of the average looking plane.
Definitely not ugly, but nothing to write home about.

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Check below where the wheels are attached, it think that might be the undercarriage.

It's not completed. You can still see all the exposed wiring and airframe parts hanging below the belly.  Wink

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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:55 pm

Looks as if a 757 and an ERJ had a baby  
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:11 pm

OMG, I thought the B787 looks ugly but this is even worse looking!!
Is there a reason why Airbus change their graceful look? Aerodynamic?
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:17 pm

Quoting LostSound (Reply 22):
Kind of the average looking plane.

I got the 767 reserved for that label  
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:22 pm

Ugly front end as expected. The A330/340 is a beauty against it. Otherwise, a boring big twinjet like everyone else.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:39 pm

Fix her up, slap on some paint and a pair of rollers and she'll look fantastic  
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:53 pm

Quoting na (Reply 26):
a boring big twinjet like everyone else.

Agree 100%.

Though I'm happy that finally they got rid of that awful "tapering" or whatever you call it that was at the rear of the plane where the last few rows of windows were moving higher and higher the further back you went.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:01 pm

It looks like a big 757 with a more-pointed nose.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:03 pm

Somehow I think it doesn't quite look ready to fly.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:27 pm

I like the wings. I don't like the nose.
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:29 pm

It sure has an interesting nose! The A330 and 340 are beautiful aircraft (unlike the 380, IMHO) and I look forward to seeing her painted and taking to the skies.
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:30 pm

It's weird seeing an Airbus single-deck widebody that doesn't look like an A300.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:37 pm

When comparing with the most recent WB design - much better looking than the 787 which looks like a chubby barrel with no proper legs.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:53 pm

Don't like the nose section. Even the 777 looks more interesting. Just my 2 cts.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:57 pm

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 19):

I agree. The nose section on both the 787 and A350 look horrible. Why didn't Airbus go with this design?



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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:58 pm

Quoting senchingo (Reply 9):
To me, the MLG looks surprisingly long (but maybe that's also because no engines are next to it yet).

Mmmm. looking at the 2nd picture, from the height of the wingtip it looks tall indeed. OK, maybe with the engines and the winglets it will flex down a bit (not sure how much) , but how big are those engines as a a fan diameter?
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:59 pm

Starting to look like an aeroplane... really nice what I see so far.

Once the engines are on it's gonna look really cool - the profile at which they hang is slightly different due to the pylon mount which I think will add to the overall beauty of this plane...

The nose reminds me slightly of the Dornier 728 Jet.


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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:07 pm

Looks like a 787 after re-entering the atmosphere from outer space and suffering from the friction heat...  
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:07 pm

Is the landing gear the real stuff or just some interim gear used to roll the airframe around? I seem to remember that often some non-functional stuff is used before the aircraft gets kitted out properly.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:32 pm

Looks like a 757 on Steroids. I like it. Will look even better when it has engines/WT and a paint job.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:50 pm

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 7):
Hmm.. looks like a 757 to me.. but, that's just my opinion..

To me as well - of course it's not "finished" yet so looking forward to the end product

Quoting flood (Reply 27):
Fix her up, slap on some paint and a pair of rollers and she'll look fantastic

   Yep, that should do it
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:54 pm

It looks unique. The 787 is a much sleeker aircraft. What's up with the red nose? Are they calling that bird Rudolph??? (Just a little holiday humor)
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:13 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Thread starter):
What do you guys think? Like? Dislike?

From the aesthetics point of view, I don't like what I see on the picturres.
I think the Dreamliner is much much more beautiful, elegant, a true class act.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 7):
looks like a 757 to me

This was my first thought when I saw the picture on the Airbus facebook page. I never liked 757s.

Waiting to see the fully completed aircraft with paint and the whole thing and the first test flight when it takes up to the skes - and most of all flying on it. I have been lucky with first inaugural flights on totally new aircraft types.

Maybe I will be lucky again with this one - might not like it - we will see when the time comes.


    
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:21 pm

I agree with those who are a bit bugged by the nose. The weird "crook" in the nose just below the cockpit windows is off. It's too obtuse of an angle, more so than in the 737 or even 757 noses. On the other hand, it's not a smooth curve like on the 787, either. It's just kind of a "lukewarm" angle. It sort of reminds me of the Space Shuttle nose, which I always thought was a bit funny-looking, too.

It will be interesting to see her with winglets, engines, and paint.
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:28 pm

The nose is very similar to the 787, no doubt about it, BUT I think it looks great, I really do. Sometimes a new acft takes a while to grow on me (the A380 still hasn't!), but I think this looks great.

Great to see that it has seen the light of day, probably a bit behind schedule, but nothing like as far behind schedule as the 787 (which I also think it a great aircraft!).

As to the nose, clearly the A300 nose (which was followed by the A330/340) was developed around 1970, by wind tunnel technology at that time, which must have come on in leaps and bounds since then (as every technology has); I always like the A300 nose, but clearly the A350 will benefit from the new technology and understanding that is now available; really, it has to, given the competition is faces.

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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:33 pm

it looks like a stretched boeing 757, and I actually like those. At the same time, I think the photographs were not detailed enough and could have been better. This truly marks the next step in Aviation; Earlier this morning I had a professor give a lecture on NextGEN ATC 
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:43 pm

A bit bae146 looking nose? The ugly windows of the A380 really smears it. I am not too found of the A330 nose either though.
 
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RE: First Flying A350 Prototype Rolls Out

Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:48 pm

Quoting Drmlnr1 (Reply 43):
What's up with the red nose? Are they calling that bird Rudolph???

It's family resemblance. They all look like that as babies.

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