kl911
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EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:41 pm

Ryanair will invest $70 million in Eindhoven airport in the Netherlands, making it a base for the airline, Chief Executive Michael O'Leary said on Tuesday.

more to follow....


source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...-netherlands-idUSL5E8NB3A320121211


Perfect news!
 
kl911
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:44 pm

According to the Ryanair website:

1 based aircraft
31 routes
4 new routes to/from Agadir, Bordeaux, Chania and Fez
Warsaw Modlin extended for summer season
Increased frequencies to/from Alicante, Faro, Ibiza, Malaga, Marrakech and Pisa
238 weekly flights (up 8%)
1.7m pax p.a (up 7%)


source : http://www.ryanair.com/en/news/ryana...announces-new-eindhoven-base-no-52
 
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:45 pm

RYANAIR ANNOUNCES NEW EINDHOVEN BASE (NO 52)

31 ROUTES (4 NEW ROUTES) & 1.7m PAX P.A. AT RYANAIR’S 2ND DUTCH BASE

Ryanair, Europe’s only ultra-low cost airline, today (11 Dec) announced it would open its 52nd base (2nd Dutch base) at Eindhoven in April 2013 with one based aircraft as it invests over $70 million at Eindhoven Airport.

Ryanair will grow at Eindhoven as follows:

1 based aircraft
31 routes
4 new routes to/from Agadir, Bordeaux, Chania and Fez
Warsaw Modlin extended for summer season
Increased frequencies to/from Alicante, Faro, Ibiza, Malaga, Marrakech and Pisa
238 weekly flights (up 8%)
1.7m pax p.a (up 7%)
1,700* jobs at Eindhoven Airport

Ryanair celebrated its new Eindhoven base by launching a 100,000 seat sale with fares starting from £14 for travel across its European network in January which are available for booking until midnight (24:00hrs) Thur (13 Dec). Ryanair’s 4 new Eindhoven routes will begin in April and will go on sale on www.ryanair.com tomorrow.

www.ryanair.com
 
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:15 pm

Good news for EIN, I guess. The fact it wasn't a base was one of the things that made it practically useless for daytrips. EZY from AMS offers much better opportunities to various destinations for not really much more money. Will the aircraft based be assigned to a specific routing?

Quoting KL911 (Thread starter):

Ryanair will invest $70 million in Eindhoven airport in the Netherlands,

Where is that money going to go to? With 70 million you can build one heck of a lounge, but I doubt that is what they are going for..
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:23 pm

Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 3):
Where is that money going to go to?

In FR speak it means

Quoting factsonly (Reply 2):
one based aircraft

No more, no less.
 
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:31 pm

Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 3):
Where is that money going to go to? With 70 million you can build one heck of a lounge, but I doubt that is what they are going for..

I guess that is for the 737 incl crew and other staff. Although AFAIK the 737 will stay Irish registered.
 
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:33 pm

Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 3):


Quoting david_itl,reply=4:
Quoting david_itl (Reply 4):

Nope you are both wrong...

Quoting factsonly (Reply 2):
invests over $70 million
Quoting david_itl (Reply 4):
In FR speak it means

Getting subsidies from the local government, and if they don´t get their way, they just bugger off.

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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:35 pm

Oh dear. And this thread has, as expected, already rapidly declined.
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:36 pm

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 6):
Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 3):

Quoting david_itl,reply=4:Quoting david_itl (Reply 4):
Nope you are both wrong...

Taken from FR;s press release dated 12.07.11 from when they opened the MAN base:

"Ryanair, the world’s favourite airline, today (12th July) announced it would open its 45th base at Manchester in October 2011 initially with two based aircraft and 17 routes, growing to four aircraft and 26 routes by summer 2012. Ryanair’s new base will deliver up to 2m passengers p.a., 2,000 jobs and up to 260 weekly flights as Ryanair invests over $280 million at Manchester Airport."

$280m for 4 aircraft = $70m for 1 aircraft. Interesting?

[Edited 2012-12-11 07:37:01]
 
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:39 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 5):
I guess that is for the 737 incl crew and other staff.

Hmm, if they are basing just one aircraft in EIN, I am sure they won´t need to hire many people, maybe what 4/6 pilots and about 16 crews? just for that one aircraft... keep in mind, some may be transferred from an existing base.

As for staff at the airport, if they already serve it, then they have people, and besides ramp crew and airport staff comes from a handling agent, not hired directly by FR.

Quoting KL911 (Reply 5):
Although AFAIK the 737 will stay Irish registered.

Of course. are the GRO based 737s Spanish registered?

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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:40 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 5):

I guess that is for the 737 incl crew and other staff. Although AFAIK the 737 will stay Irish registered.
Quoting david_itl (Reply 8):

$280m for 4 aircraft = $70m for 1 aircraft. Interesting?

Sure, as if anybody believes FR paid 70M USD for their 737's. So it's just hot air, I guess..

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 7):

Oh dear. And this thread has, as expected, already rapidly declined.

How exactly?

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 6):

Nope you are both wrong...

Why?
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:53 pm

Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 10):
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 7):

Oh dear. And this thread has, as expected, already rapidly declined.

How exactly?

I'm guessing it relates to the rapid assumption that it's all about subsidies - a rather tired and predictable position, and one not yet backed up with sources.

Of course, if anyone can demonstrate how the stated investment is incorrect, and what amounts will be subsidised, one can take it into account and discuss it sensibly. If not, it's just hot air and bluster - which is typical in all FR-related threads.
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:01 pm

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 11):
I'm guessing it relates to the rapid assumption that it's all about subsidies - a rather tired and predictable position, and one not yet backed up with sources.

Yes, rather childish behaviour from a few FR bashers here.

Anyway, Transavia today released the news that they will base 3 aircraft at EIN from Feb 2012. Both FR and HV have btw the same treatment at EIN.

According to press releases the 1 plane was the max Ryanair could base at EIN due to space restrictions. Does anyone know who else will RON at EIN besides 3x HV , 1x FR and 1x VG?
 
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:14 pm

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 11):

Of course, if anyone can demonstrate how the stated investment is incorrect, and what amounts will be subsidised, one can take it into account and discuss it sensibly. If not, it's just hot air and bluster - which is typical in all FR-related threads.

As no onee one of you seems to be able to explain to me where the 70M USD is going to, I am going to presume the Ryanair statement is exactly that - hot air. (regarding the amount of money invested, of course)
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:17 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 1):
According to the Ryanair website:

1 based aircraft

This is what other airlines call a night stop - crew in a hotel and out again next day. FR has two options:

(1) The crew overnights with the aircraft.
(2) An exchange of crews during the operating day as well, to have one early morning crew and one afternoon duty crew available.

Very much what FR is doing in MST, crews are actually domicilled in other stations but overnight in a MST hotel.

So....one B737-800 will night stop at EIN !!
 
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:20 pm

Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 13):
As no onee one of you seems to be able to explain to me where the 70M USD is going to,

With respect,. I have shown you what the investment is. That you don't believe is well within your rights though!
 
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:18 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 15):
I have shown you what the investment is. That you don't believe is well within your rights though!

Except that having an aircraft RON at EIN is hardly a €70M investment. It's hot air. By that token, what's the investment of, say, BA in LHR?
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:24 pm

Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 13):
As no onee one of you seems to be able to explain to me where the 70M USD is going to, I am going to presume the Ryanair statement is exactly that - hot air. (regarding the amount of money invested, of course)

Really? Do you suppose that they get to base an aircraft there for free, and also get free handling and airport employees, and get crew for free, etc, etc, etc?

Seriously, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to start figuring out where such sums of money might be needed with such an expansion in flights. In any even, I take a public statement from a very successful airline to be something more of a solid source than pure speculation and assumption.
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:41 pm

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 17):
Really? Do you suppose that they get to base an aircraft there for free, and also get free handling and airport employees, and get crew for free, etc, etc, etc?

Seriously, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to start figuring out where such sums of money might be needed with such an expansion in flights. In any even, I take a public statement from a very successful airline to be something more of a solid source than pure speculation and assumption.

Seriously, what a load of bull. All the things you mention are operating costs and have absolutely ZILCH to do with investments. You really believe Ryanair is going to COMMIT itself for 70M to an airport they would leave tomorrow if circumstances would happen to be less favourable? You think a nightstop is a 70M investment? You believe assigning an aircraft (which isnt even sure they actually do) may be called investment?

A company invests to get ROI, but most of the time just to get a saying in matters. With pretending they are investing big bucks in EIN, they hope to get influence on EIN. Smart move, but that makes the 70M USD investment nothing more than hot air. They spend their money in EIN as every other airline . That doesnt make them a 70M investor, nor does it grand the rights to act as such.
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RE: EIN New Base For Ryanair!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:51 pm

70M is about the list price of a 737  
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