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British Airways 787 Routes

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:19 pm

Searched for this topic, but couldn't find the answers. Was wondering if anyone had any insight to BAs new 787 and what routes it will be flying?

Specifically interested if it will be used to replace the 777-200s without First used down to Latin America?
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:25 pm

LHR-SCL. Is it true that BA is buying some LHR slots from Ryanair??

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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:30 pm

No. The B787-8 will replace long haul B767-300 one for one.
No new routes next year.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:30 pm

787 to Vancouver, Newark, Montreal and Dar es Salaam were the rumoured or leaked routes. SCL will not be an initial if ever route !
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:32 pm

I would've thought that SAN would be a 787 at least during the winter months but if not, that means traffic and cargo yields are healthy enough to keep the IGW 777's flying there, nice!
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:33 pm

They will be replacing the 767s in the main.

Three or four maximum 788 may be delivered during Winter 2013.

Remaining 788 orders through 2014 and 2015 - total just 8 frames !

Subject to test programme for a model yet to be made the 789 models are scheduled 2015-2017 and beyond with 16 + frames.

You will see them where ever the 767 is used at the moment.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:40 pm

787 to Vancouver? That seems strange to replace a 10x weekly 747...

LHR-HNL has been rumored for some time.

[Edited 2012-12-19 14:41:13]
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:46 pm

PDX-LHR has been rumored for some time. Hopefully it becomes a reality.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:54 pm

Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 6):
787 to Vancouver? That seems strange to replace a 10x weekly 747...

It would make total sense if 10x 747 turned into 7x 747 (or 77W or 772) and 7x 787.

[Edited 2012-12-19 14:54:37]
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:58 pm

[quote=eastern023,reply=1]Is it true that BA is buying some LHR slots from Ryanair?[/quote

Ryanair have no slots or indeed desire to operate in to Heathrow

Its a complex deal around current Aer Lingus slot holdings in event Ryanair are successful in their take over attempt of the Shamrock.

The take over is far from inevitable - The Dáil and Taoiseach seem set against it
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:06 pm

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 8):
It would make total sense if 10x 747 turned into 7x 747 (or 77W or 772) and 7x 787.

This would also help with the 747 retirement at BA. They could do 5x 747, 7x 787, and 7x 77W if they needed different capacities for different days.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:42 am

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 10):
This would also help with the 747 retirement at BA. They could do 5x 747, 7x 787, and 7x 77W if they needed different capacities for different days.

Or 7 x A380!!   
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:54 am

Quoting sciurusmdg (Thread starter):
Specifically interested if it will be used to replace the 777-200s without First used down to Latin America?

Unlikely. As has already been stated BA have announced that they will replace their 763s and not any 772s with the 787s. This means they will almost certainly first enter service on one or more of the following long haul 763 destinations::

BWI, DAR, DME, EBB, FNA/ROB, JED, LUN, NAS/GCM, PHL, YUL, YYC or YYZ

Conjecture that the BA 787 will be used to start new routes is also likely to be just that,namely conjecture.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:22 am

Friend that works for BA in YYC said he heard rumors of LHR-YYC very soon after 787 deliveries start. Loads have been very strong with sold out flights almost daily. this would make a great strong route for the 787 with heavy loads to replace the 763 currently flying the route daily.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:01 am

Will they fly any short haul routes?
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:20 am

Quoting VCy (Reply 14):
Will they fly any short haul routes?

If they replace the 767 one-to-one, they will. BA still operates the 767 into, say, FRA and CDG.
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:40 am

I think the 767 replacement refers to the long-haul 767s (used to Africa and a few other places) rather than to the European 767s configured with Club Europe rather than Club World...doubt we will be seeing any 787 in regular service within Europe
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:16 am

could they use the 787 to replace the YYC 767?
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:27 am

Initially the 787 will replace those Longhaul configured 767s that are not having a cabin refresh. They will almost certainly fly to the exact same places that are currently served by Longhaul 767s as mentioned earlier.

As for shorthaul operation - it would only be for adhoc flights, much like the 777s and 747s sometimes do at the moment.
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:28 am

Quoting VCy (Reply 14):
Will they fly any short haul routes?
Quoting Rara (Reply 15):
If they replace the 767 one-to-one, they will. BA still operates the 767 into, say, FRA and CDG.

The current announced plans show sixteen 787s delivered by end 2015 and thirteen out of fourteen long haul 763s retired by the same date. So it looks like an almost one-for-one replacement. See Chart 17 here:

http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_...Capital%20Markets%20Day%202011.pdf

In this chart the seven short haul configured 763s are still in service and are hidden in the "Short haul - Other" numbers. However it is likely that some short haul routes will be flown very early in the life of BA;s 787s to maximise the number of rotations during flight crew training.

So current published plans are for BA to operate their short-haul 767 fleet at least into 2016. Here it is worth noting that these aircraft are currently being refurbished. Four aircraft are back in service after refurbishment, one is currently undergoing refurbishment and three are still flying with their old cabins awaiting their new cabins.

It is also worth noting that the BA short haul fleet includes the two oldest 763s in BA;s fleet but, more relevantly, five of their six youngest aircraft:

G-BNWA delivered May '89. 50,811 hrs as at 31 Dec 2011

G-BNWB delivered Nov '89. 49,541 hrs as at 31 Dec 2011

G-BNWX delivered Mar '94. 47,948 hrs as at 31 Dec 2011

G-BNWZ delivered Feb '97. 36,070 hrs as at 31 Dec 2011

G-BZHA delivered May '98. 34.330 hrs as at 31 Dec 2011

G-BZHB delivered May '98. 34.133 hrs as at 31 Dec 2011

G-BZHC delivered Jun '98. 34.951 hrs as at 31 Dec 2011

So four are still relatively young. Further being amongst the very few RR powered 763s, their market value is probably low particularly when compared to their operational value. But the final fate of QF's RR 763, VH-ZXB, (formerly G-BNWF with BA) that they retired on 1 December and is now parked at ROW might give further clues.

[Source of BA 763 data: CAA "G-INFO" web site.]
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:18 am

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 7):
PDX-LHR has been rumored for some time. Hopefully it becomes a reality.

I always love your pro-PDX posts, I'd be way happy to see BA at PDX, but with up to 2x daily 744 or 777 to SEA, and a great connection partnership with AS, I doubt BA will look at PDX for a while longer. I have heard the rumor too, but if BA had wanted to come here, they would have tried a 767 at some point, or as a tag from YVR or SEA. I think LH's departure shows that PDX is just not big enough to keep multiple daily Europe flights, too bad as well, PDX is an awesome facility.

Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 6):
LHR-HNL has been rumored for some time

If this ULH route ever happens, I'd expect HA with their A350's or VS with whatever they get next with ULH capacity. The thought is ULH leisure routes do not work well, even with a lower fuel burn, they still would be hard to remain profitable.
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:44 am

Quoting eastern023 (Reply 1):
LHR-SCL. Is it true that BA is buying some LHR slots from Ryanair??

Ryanair don't hold any slots at LHR. MOLs nose would bleed if you even talked to him about the cost to operate from there.

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 9):
Its a complex deal around current Aer Lingus slot holdings in event Ryanair are successful in their take over attempt of the Shamrock.

FR have failed in their attempt to take over EI.

Irish Gov Says NO To Ryanairs EI Merger (by tonystan Dec 18 2012 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:39 pm

Quoting VV701 (Reply 19):
The current announced plans show sixteen 787s delivered by end 2015 and thirteen out of fourteen long haul 763s retired by the same date. So it looks like an almost one-for-one replacement. See Chart 17 here:

This plan is notable for two things, firstly the 2015 figures for the 747 and 767 have a box round them mentioning operational flexibility, in simple terms some could have their life extended if the market picks up and slots are available.

the other thing is that this was a November 2011 presentation just before the possibility of buying BMI, this probably makes quite a difference, one aspect being that BA now operate more A320 series planes in 2012 than the projection for 2015 !
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:41 pm

was hoping to see an upgrade here at LCA as far as BA's service is concerned.. thought that would happen with the 787  
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:19 pm

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 22):
This plan is notable for two things, firstly the 2015 figures for the 747 and 767 have a box round them mentioning operational flexibility, in simple terms some could have their life extended if the market picks up and slots are available.

It also means that some could have their life shortened if the market fails to meet expectations by implementing early retirements.

This is the sort of flexibility that is required when forecasting the overall economic situation four years out is so very, very difficult. It is not therefore surprising that the presentation also additionally says on Chart 18:

"Further flexibility possible with contractual ability to defer new deliveries"

On this chart it also presents the median forecast position together with both optimistic and pessimistic forecasts for the combined BA and IB fleet growth, Here it shows a base line "fleet growth" of around 14 per cent, This does not jibe with the base line aircraft fleet growth of 8 per cent shown on Chart 17. This may be because the "fleet growth" figure could be passenger seats and not aircraft numbers.

Chart 18 also shows an optimistic growth scenario of about 31 per cent and a pessimistic contraction of 12 per cent. I take this to mean that looking forward IAG has the flexibility to cope with anything between a 31 per cent growth and a 12 per cent decline in business (presumably excluding the impact of BD) over the period from the fourth quarter of 2011 to the end of 2015. So the box around the 747 and 767 (and the IB A330/340) aircraft needs to be viewed with this in mind and the possibility of early and postponed retirements, lease extensions and deferral of new aircraft deliveries.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:20 pm

So we should expect the 787 in to YYZ maybe? I don't see it going to YVR as the 747 is usually quite full when I fly it to London. Not a big fan of BA but it is the best connection to get to LHR.
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:18 pm

The 787 will go where BA doesn't offer F on some or all flights:

So candidates are :

Denver
San Diego
Montreal
Calgary
Toronto
Baltimore
Newark
Rio
Buenos Aires
Chennai
Dar es Salaam
Entebbe
Jeddah
Philadelphia
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:58 pm

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 2):
No. The B787-8 will replace long haul B767-300 one for one.
No new routes next year.

Hooray they are coming to BWI then!            
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:09 pm

It will be great to see the 787 in YYC! Funny that BA will probably beat AC to YYC with the 787's.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:23 pm

Quoting boeingorbust (Reply 13):
Friend that works for BA in YYC said he heard rumors of LHR-YYC very soon after 787 deliveries start. Loads have been very strong with sold out flights almost daily. this would make a great strong route for the 787 with heavy loads to replace the 763 currently flying the route daily.

I think he might be right

The main reason I say this is because the changes BA made to there YYC schedule for S13. The changes show a drop in flight time from mid July (Westbound from 9 hrs 15 mins to 8 hrs 45 mins / Eastbound 8 hrs 55 mins to 8 hrs 15 mins ) however not yet to the aircraft type. This change would indicate a yet to be announced change to the operating aircraft.
The 787's cruising speed will be faster than the 767 and the configuration of the 787 would fit the YYC route well.

BA103 LHR 17:35 YYC 19:20 767 D from 16JUL13
BA103 LHR 17:35 YYC 20:00 767 D until 15JUL13

BA102 YYC 21:35 LHR 13:00 767 D until 15JUL13
BA102 YYC 22:15 LHR 13:00 767 D from 16JUL13
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:13 pm

Quoting SonomaFlyer (Reply 4):
I would've thought that SAN would be a 787 at least during the winter months but if not, that means traffic and cargo yields are healthy enough to keep the IGW 777's flying there, nice.
Quoting flyyul (Reply 26):
The 787 will go where BA doesn't offer F on some or all flights:
So candidates [include]:
San Diego


I'd like to weigh in here with a couple of thoughts. Back in 2010, when they did not serve SAN, BA specifically mentioned our airport as a very viable candidate for 787 service once the new airplane joined their fleet.

Once the ATI/JBV was approved between BA and AA (and IB), BA jumped at the SAN-market, announcing service on Oct 6, 2010, not waiting around for the Dreamliner to arrive in-house. Daily T7 service commenced June 1, 2011, and remains unchanged throughout this winter season.

Most everyone I've talked to and read about feels that the SAN-service has been an outstanding success. LFs in the summer months reach 95% with the months of April thru Sept consistently seeing LFs exceeding 90%; Jan and Feb (last year at least) saw LFs in the low 70%-range. Cargo has apparently been the real (positive!) surprise although I have not seen any specific and official numbers on the amount carried. This makes it clear that the performance of the 777 has created no issues at all at Lindbergh Field and the 787 would not be an improvement for SAN (operationally speaking.)

Of course yields are unknown to me so perhaps the 787 would be able to improve the bottom line, even while creating a loss of capacity, especially in the summer. I certainly could see BA replacing the T7 with the Dreamliner between say November and February but this is based only on limited (one year's) pax data. My guess would be that they are probably in no big hurry to make that decision.

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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:17 pm

Any ideas why BA got a mix of 788s and 789s? I wonder why they didn't stick with just 788s as 763ER replacements and pick up the 7810 for 772/77E replacements.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:33 pm

Quoting ytz (Reply 31):
Any ideas why BA got a mix of 788s and 789s? I wonder why they didn't stick with just 788s as 763ER replacements and pick up the 7810 for 772/77E replacements.

I am not sure if the 787-10 was even available for BA to order when it made it's initial order. I am not sure if it is even available to order now.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:55 pm

Quoting flyyul (Reply 26):
Philadelphia

Yay! So BA 068/069 will likely be replaced with one of these birds.  

Wasn't this flight operated with a 772, and flights 066 and 067 a 747 roughly 6 years ago or so? Too bad, but it's nice to see widebody service like this at PHL.
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:16 pm

Quoting flyyul (Reply 26):
So candidates are :

Denver

Isn't DEN currently a BA 777 with close to 300 seats? And the BA 787 with some 215 seats?

Wouldn't this be probably a big reduction in seats here, especially since this flight can be oversold on occasion?


 
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:48 pm

Quoting ER757 (Reply 11):
Or 7 x A380!!   

To YVR? Not a chance, I'm afraid. I would hope BA has more sense than to place A380s on routes for which 787s are being considered.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:33 am

Quoting VV701 (Reply 12):
BWI, DAR, DME, EBB, FNA/ROB, JED, LUN, NAS/GCM, PHL, YUL, YYC or YYZ

I suspect you can add IAD to that list too
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:38 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 20):
I always love your pro-PDX posts, I'd be way happy to see BA at PDX, but with up to 2x daily 744 or 777 to SEA, and a great connection partnership with AS, I doubt BA will look at PDX for a while longer. I have heard the rumor too, but if BA had wanted to come here, they would have tried a 767 at some point, or as a tag from YVR or SEA. I think LH's departure shows that PDX is just not big enough to keep multiple daily Europe flights, too bad as well, PDX is an awesome facility.

since when does BA fly to SEA 2x daily? If BA does have interest in adding more capacity to the northwest, perhaps they do it from PDX.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:08 am

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 37):
since when does BA fly to SEA 2x daily?


I dont think they do anymore. In summer '07, it was 10 weekly. It got bumped up to 13 weekly in '08 due to EU/US openskies, In '09, went back down to 10 weekly. In 2010, it went down to 7 weekly.

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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:51 am

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 37):
since when does BA fly to SEA 2x daily? If BA does have interest in adding more capacity to the northwest, perhaps they do it from PDX.

I was using it as an extreme example, from summers a few years back, sorry if you feel mislead. I'd love to see BA here at PDX with a 787, I think the 787 is the right size for the market, and my response was genuine in case you read it any other way, I do love your pro-pdx posts, I'm as pro-pdx as they come, I'm sure my rants about PDX tire those who don't love this place as much as I do. keep up the good work!  
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:02 pm

BA has expressed an interest in opening up new US destinations. Portland is undoubtedly top of the list. Rumblings of San Antonio and San Jose. Also Orlando from Heathrow in addition to LGW.

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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:08 pm

Quoting HUYfan (Reply 40):
Also Orlando from Heathrow in addition to LGW

I'd be really surprised at this. Orlando is a market sewn up by Virgin thanks to Virgin Holidays.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:19 pm

I personally would be surprised if PDX has now risen to the top of the list.

Last I was privvy to included SLC, MSY above PDX, but times change....

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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:28 pm

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 33):
Wasn't this flight operated with a 772, and flights 066 and 067 a 747 roughly 6 years ago or so? Too bad, but it's nice to see widebody service like this at PHL.

At one point ~12 years ago BA was 2x 742s I believe, then it was 2x 772s, then 1x 744 1x 722, for a brief time it was 2x 744s, then it dropped back to 2x 772s and now it was been 1x 772 1x 763 for at least 5 years.

I think this route may be up in the air depending on US/AA.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:43 pm

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 35):
To YVR? Not a chance, I'm afraid. I would hope BA has more sense than to place A380s on routes for which 787s are being considered.

Capacity is capacity, particularly in a market like Europe-West Coast where there's only a narrow range of commercially viable flight times.. 10x 744 could translate into 7x 388 just as easily as it could translate into 7x 772 + 7x 788.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:33 pm

I was asking about the viability of LHR-SJC on the SFO aviation thread...

Also, will CTU move to a daily 787 later perhaps?
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:37 pm

What does anyone think the likelihood of something less obvious? I can see potential for HKT/SGN/HAN and a possible tag-on to DPS. Possibly SEZ too?

I'd love to see BA launch KUL too, but with 2 x MH A380's per day I'd doubt it. Either way it will be unlikely to see BA open up many new routes for at least 2 years I think.
 
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:30 am

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 43):
I think this route may be up in the air depending on US/AA.

So there's a possibility of AA picking this up and BA dropping it? I guess that would make sense. I guess BA would look at that as redundant and have really nothing else to add to the PHL-LHR-PHL market. I guess there isn't enough traffic to warrant any 747 service in addition to whatever metal AA would consider for this route. As you indicated, BA hasn't flown a 747 into PHL for several years...
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RE: British Airways 787 Routes

Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:42 am

Quoting JHCRJ700 (Reply 27):
Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 2):
No. The B787-8 will replace long haul B767-300 one for one.
No new routes next year.

Hooray they are coming to BWI then!            

My sentiments exactly! That would be simply AMAZING!
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