2008matt
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What Is Wrong With This A380?

Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:18 pm

Does anyone have any idea what happened to the paint on the tail of this Korean A380? Did they just run out of paint? Looks like a bit of an unprofessional paint job.


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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:22 pm

It seems to be a optical illusion from the glare of the sun. To me it seems to simply be the reflection from the horizontal stabilizer. The lighter color is just being reflected on the vertical stabilizer. If you look at the other A-380 in the background you can see a smaller "dot" on the tail also.
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:36 pm

Now you mention it I can see what you mean, still, does look like it has been half painted haha.
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:28 pm

Quoting 2008matt (Reply 2):

You're absolutely right! The whole bottom part hasn't been painted blue......
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:21 pm

Reflection from the horizontal stab - nothing more.
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:37 pm

This is the next to latest picture of this airframe from LAX on 2 December 2012, and it clearly shows the tail is painted, so a reflection is indeed the most logical explanation for the bright spot.


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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:47 pm

Quoting peterjohns (Reply 3):

You're absolutely right! The whole bottom part hasn't been painted blue......

Great snap of the 3 A380 in a line though....
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:54 am

Although it could be a reflection, it does look like primer. The bottom left edge looks too straight, cut-off to be a reflection. However, if you check A.net photos of Korean Air HL 7614 no white paint is shown. It looks like someone took a paint roller dipped in white paint to the tail. IMO.
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:30 am

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 6):
Great snap of the 3 A380 in a line though....

Excellent snapshot.

What is the peak number of A380s in a row in the a.net database? Ideal in operation, but I'll take TLS too.

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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:25 am

They could have had a repair in the past week, in that area, and due to management forcing the plane back into the air in the shortest time possible, didn't have time to finish the topcoat. It could be a reflection, anything is possible, but it looks to me like primer. My   
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:54 am

Quoting aztrainer (Reply 1):
To me it seems to simply be the reflection from the horizontal stabilizer.


That's what it is...just the horizontal stab throwing light on the rudders topcoat. Photographer at just the correct position to view this.
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:11 am

I don't think it was a reflection. The top edge is too jagged, the left edge is exactly at the leading edge of the rudder, and the right edge is parallel to the trailing edge of the rudder.
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:48 am

Quoting 3DoorsDown (Reply 9):

There's a fair lot of blue amongst that primer. That to me suggests it's a reflection rather than a repair.
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:52 am

Surprised this is being discussed really... Open it in large view and to me that is quite clearly a reflection!

Kinda symbolic with the 747 going the other direction in the background... The new A380 replacing the retiring old 747... Like a substitution... Or maybe thats just the old English student in me, making something out of nothing!   
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:57 am

Quoting 3DoorsDown (Reply 9):
They could have had a repair in the past week, in that area, and due to management forcing the plane back into the air in the shortest time possible, didn't have time to finish the topcoat. It could be a reflection, anything is possible, but it looks to me like primer. My

Don't rudders have to be very finely balanced to fly efficiently?
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:10 am

Quoting wellies (Reply 14):
Don't rudders have to be very finely balanced to fly efficiently?

It's not efficiency, but rather flutter avoidance that requires careful adherence to the balance limits of a rudder.
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:26 am

Been a pro photog for 12 years. Its a highlight caused by reflection. No doubt about it at all.
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:35 pm

Quoting avrich (Reply 16):
Been a pro photog for 12 years. Its a highlight caused by reflection. No doubt about it at all.

Weighing in with you as a pro in the photo industry for the past 28 years - from technicial to shooting to final image production (and also as a aircraft maintenance specialist for 12 years prior) - it is in all probability ascribable to reflection. The unevenness of the patch is all due to both the reflecting and reflected-upon surfaces which are far from being flat in the first place. Reflected lights from and on curvy surfaces can and do play tricks on the eyes.
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:47 pm

Quoting afterburner (Reply 11):
I don't think it was a reflection. The top edge is too jagged, the left edge is exactly at the leading edge of the rudder, and the right edge is parallel to the trailing edge of the rudder.

I have been commissioned to photograph over 2,000 aircraft in the last 25 years...I can assure you it is just highlights on a fresh topcoat of paint. Blue paint...(I also paint aircraft). The irregularity is from the internal structure of the rudder and H/stab, and the "oil canning" of the composite skin. Can't believe this is even debatable as an issue at least for those that chase planes with a camera?!
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:03 pm

If it is not a reflection, the second ship has the same problem. Just a little smaller.
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:02 am

Of course it's a reflection, and that's coming from someone who has never taken a professional photo in his life... so there  
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:13 am

Quoting azzazzazza (Reply 13):
Surprised this is being discussed really... Open it in large view and to me that is quite clearly a reflection!

Seriously! I can't believe this is actually being debated.

Clearly a reflection. PERIOD.
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:38 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 5):
This is the next to latest picture of this airframe from LAX on 2 December 2012, and it clearly shows the tail is painted, so a reflection is indeed the most logical explanation for the bright spot.

Clearly in your picture the unpainted spot has been moved to just above the aft lower door. And now it flows over the horizontal tail in the slipstream!! What kind of paint are they using at Korean Air!! Unbelievable.

  
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:46 am

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Korea...d=2379ee131956dcc007a567c05633a6da

Try to study all reflections you want in this photo

the blue that KAL uses is quite interesting
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:11 am

Quoting rwessel (Reply 15):

Thank you for the correction! I shall do some further studying...
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:58 pm

There is a reflection on the A380 in the middle and on the 747 (what a beauty) just entering the picture as well.

No doubt about it being a reflection.
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:14 pm

Surprised that nobody thought to contact the photographer

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That is reflection from horizontal tail and not unpainted area or spot. If you want I can share sequence photos before and after reflection.  
KE has their own painting plant at PUS and they can do various paint job including special livery,wrapping and even other airlines livery.
So I can't think they made such a big paint error!

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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:17 pm

Quoting 2008matt (Thread starter):
Looks like a bit of an unprofessional paint job.

Yes, they've polished that paint waaaay too much. Look at all the light it reflects now.
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:36 pm

Quoting azzazzazza (Reply 13):
Kinda symbolic with the 747 going the other direction in the background... The new A380 replacing the retiring old 747... Like a substitution... Or maybe thats just the old English student in me, making something out of nothing!

True for the 747-400s, that's for sure. However, I think the incoming 747-8s will end up being the newest sub-fleet at KAL.
 
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RE: What Is Wrong With This A380?

Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:58 pm

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