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NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:57 am

It seems a NK a320 clipped the tail of a US Airways a320 at was parked on Monday night. No injuries reported and minor damage to each aircraft.

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Spirit-...-Lauderdale-Airport-185362841.html
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:35 pm

I wonder if this was an east or west airplane.. And i would also like to see the damage as there doesn't seem to be much info at this time ! At least everyone is O.K.

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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:46 pm

Quoting Cactus105 (Reply 1):
And i would also like to see the damage
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:17 pm

It was ship 679, which is west.
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:38 pm

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 2):

Ahh Dang .. 679 thats one of the newer ones!! I wouldn't have complained if it would've been one of the dirty dozen.. with A1 IAE's haha  

Anyway, thanks for the reg. # wn676!!

Doesn't look TOO bad ..

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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:30 pm

I don't understand how he hit it if it was on the remote spot. He had to have gone way off the taxi line to hit it. I've seen Condor with the 763 taxi behind there with planes on remote.
 
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:37 pm

Quoting cotparampguy (Reply 5):

That could be a possibility. I flew NK out of LGA a few weeks ago at night and I observed the lighting on the side of the taxiway get a bit closer than normal for about a minute before the plane made a sharp-feeling merge left, so I guess the pilot corrected himself pretty quickly. However, I don't think we got far enough off-center to have hit another aircraft if there had been one.
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:00 pm

looks like its just superficial damage to the APU cowl. swap the cowls i would bet and all should be well. then again, that picture doesnt really show the meat and taters of the damage.

Quoting Cactus105 (Reply 4):
Ahh Dang .. 679 thats one of the newer ones!! I wouldn't have complained if it would've been one of the dirty dozen.. with A1 IAE's haha

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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:33 pm

Quoting twincommander (Reply 7):

I have a feeling the day will come pretty quickly ! Especially with all the new 321's we are getting. But hey, who knows. A 320 had an APU fire at the gate in PHX on Christmas Eve or the day before, ship 624 IIRC. Leakin fuel everywhere apparently. No good ! Those frames with A1 's have a few hours on em .

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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:59 pm

Quoting Cactus105 (Reply 8):
I have a feeling the day will come pretty quickly ! Especially with all the new 321's we are getting. But hey, who knows. A 320 had an APU fire at the gate in PHX on Christmas Eve or the day before, ship 624 IIRC. Leakin fuel everywhere apparently. No good ! Those frames with A1 's have a few hours on em .

That was 627. Went back in to service the next day. They just won't go away!
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:09 pm

Any pics of the NK A320? I'm sure the damage to the wingtip fence is minor though.
 
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:11 am

Looks like it more the pressure bulkhead in the aft. Not just the APU cowling.
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:39 am

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 11):

Looks like it more the pressure bulkhead in the aft. Not just the APU cowling.

This is well aft of the pressure bulkhead. The whole tail cone section is unpressurized.
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:16 am

Quoting wn676 (Reply 9):
That was 627

Gracias!! I have some type of lysdexia i suppose   although I don't know how you mix up a 4 and a 7!! Same Type of old beater tho
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:28 am

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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:52 am

What would the pilot's do just after hitting another parked plane, beside the obvious curse words, do they just stop as quick as they can and shut everything down and PA the cabin and call the tower? I imagine their reaction would be more than Ooops sorry bout that..be interested to know  
 
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:02 am

This guy didn't stop too quick.

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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:39 am

Spirit Completes Preliminary Investigation on Flight 403

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/spirit...nvestigation-flight-233930422.html
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:00 pm

Quoting usairways16BWI (Reply 10):

I'd also like to see some pics of that one. I want to know how the US plane had so much damage yet the NK plane returned to service "hours later". An impact like that had to have left some decent danage on ths NK too.
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:33 pm

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 18):

I'd also like to see some pics of that one. I want to know how the US plane had so much damage yet the NK plane returned to service "hours later". An impact like that had to have left some decent danage on ths NK too.

Nah... looks like the wingtip fence cut through the bottom of the tailcone. Do a check of the nuts and bolts, remove and CDL the fence (or replace it if you have a spare), and Bob's your uncle  
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:31 am

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 18):
I'd also like to see some pics of that one. I want to know how the US plane had so much damage yet the NK plane returned to service "hours later". An impact like that had to have left some decent danage on ths NK too.

apu cowl is very lightly built compared to the wingtip fence, and wing for that matter.

you can remove the fence per CDL and fly with restrictions. havent seen one yet though.
 
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:19 am

Aircraft was ferried to BHM for heavy maintenance repair.

Sounds like it could be out for a few weeks.
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:27 am

I think you might mean BFM in Mobile as ST Aerospace is there. There is no MRO in BHM.
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:48 am

Quoting cotparampguy (Reply 5):
I don't understand how he hit it if it was on the remote spot. He had to have gone way off the taxi line to hit it. I've seen Condor with the 763 taxi behind there with planes on remote.

   I'm at a loss as to how the pilot flying could've clipped an aircraft when there's so much room to spare on that taxiway.
 
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:58 am

I guess NK pax get what they pay tod. A few quick jostles and bumps might be in order for such a low fare.  
Maybe it's a plan to try and take out competitors' aircraft.

But seriously, how does one pull a 320 that far over and not correct it? That taxiway isn't really all that tiny
 
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:05 am

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 19):
Quoting twincommander (Reply 20):

Hmm, seems to me like there would be more time required for a proper investigation and inspection. I guess those workers down in FLL work fast!

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 23):
Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 24):

I'm also wondering how they wouldn't realize they were so far off center.

Quoting b757capt (Reply 21):

Which aircraft is this? The US Airways I'm assuming?


And on a side note, I've been on both NK and US a320s, and I still prefer the oldest of US a320s to a brand new NK a320! Just saying.....  
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:46 am

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 25):

"Hmm, seems to me like there would be more time required for a proper investigation and inspection. I guess those workers down in FLL work fast! "

And that's why it's called a prelimary investigation, sure' an in depth investigation would take a little longer but I'm sure initial fact finding can amply be done in 2 days.

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 25):

"I'm also wondering how they wouldn't realize they were so far off center"

A little jumping to conclusions here, that they were off center. The RON parking pads were extremely full in FLL on the night of the 31st due to reduced schedules for most airlines for New Year's Eve/day. The preliminary investigation determined that the Spirit was on centerline, and the USAirways was not properly parked on the aux/ron pad. That part of taxiway T is a very dark at night, but none the less, on a controlled taxiway, you are guaranteed separation from parked aircraft if cleared onto a particular taxiway.
 
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:54 am

Quoting beechtobus (Reply 26):
The RON parking pads were extremely full in FLL on the night of the 31st due to reduced schedules for most airlines for New Year's Eve/day

I didn't think of that. My apologies.

Quoting beechtobus (Reply 26):
USAirways was not properly parked on the aux/ron pad.

I hadn't seen that. Once again, my apologies.
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:01 am

Quoting beechtobus (Reply 26):

Even with the full pad, I'm thinking they were off center. Less so than needed to hit anything normally, but I just don't think the US airways plane was sticking far into the taxiway. By the sounds of it, the US plane had been there at least a little while and probably passed by at least a few other taxiing planes.

Just speculation, but I don't see how NK would hit it without going off the center line a bit.
 
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:21 am

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 16):
This guy didn't stop too quick.

http://youtu.be/9oh7VRdcm0A

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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:26 am

Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 22):

You are correct. My fault!!!!!
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RE: NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL

Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:06 am

Quoting winstonlegthigh (Reply 29):

lol

Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 28):

That's what I was thinkingg too, but beechtobus brought up the the US a320 was improperly parked, so it might not have been.
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