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United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:44 am

Along with the following city pairs beginning in April. These will be reflected in the schedule being loaded 12 January.

EWR-PHL (Philadelphia)
ORD-SJU (San Juan, Puerto Rico)
IAD-MHT (Manchester, N.H.)
IAD-PNS (Pensacola, Fla.)
IAH-CID (Cedar Rapids, Iowa)
LAX-TUL (Tulsa, Okla.)
 
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United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:49 am

Didn't they just start CID-IAH not too long ago? Maybe I'm thinking of another route. IAD-MHT is somewhat of a surprise.
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:58 am

And the ConUnited gutting of Manchester NH continues.

If this is true, to compare May13 with May03:

IAD goes from 4x/day CRJ to zilch (was scheduled 1x/day RJ)
ORD goes from 2x/day 733, 1x/day 757, 1x/day 320 to 13x/wk CRJ-700
EWR goes from 1x/day 735 and 3x/day ERJ to 3x/day ERJ
CLE goes from 3x/day ERJ to 11x/wk (1.6/day) ERJ

We'll neglect the Beeches CO Connection had to ALB as well.

Off and on UA was using CR7s on MHT-IAD as well. Peak was summer 2007 when it was 3x/day CR7 to IAD.
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:05 am

As for other route commentary:

Quoting Aerowrench (Thread starter):
EWR-PHL (Philadelphia)

With the Amtrak deal, makes much more sense to throw passengers on a Keystone train from Center City than schlep to the airport and fly 15 minutes between two delay prone airports. It's quicker from downtown to EWR on Amtrak than it is on the plane.

Quoting Aerowrench (Thread starter):
ORD-SJU (San Juan, Puerto Rico)

American dominates this market. Flying it SaSu only chases the leisure traveler. Those who want to fly UA can still get there easily via EWR/IAD

Quoting Aerowrench (Thread starter):
IAD-PNS (Pensacola, Fla.)

Long thin 50 seater flight. Not a huge shocker. Only surprise is no real convenient option on UA to the Northeast now. Guess they figure they'll let DL/US/FL (for now) take it.

Quoting Aerowrench (Thread starter):
LAX-TUL (Tulsa, Okla.)

Long thin RJ route at 1283 miles. Easy enough to onestop on WN.

Quoting Aerowrench (Thread starter):
IAH-CID (Cedar Rapids, Iowa)

Biggest suprise on the list, but it's still a long, thin ride on a 50 seater. Plenty of viable connecting options still exist over ORD and DEN. Chalk this one into the sCO didn't fly into CID so didn't make sense to start a station for a marginal route (the overhead would have doomed it) but with sUA already there, worth a gamble on a couple of RJs a day since the overhead was in place already.
 
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United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:30 am

Wasn't TUL-LAX started as a response to ExpressJet service from TUL-ONT? It seems like it began around that time, but I don't really remember for sure.
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:34 am

Quoting deltairlines (Reply 3):
Quoting Aerowrench (Thread starter):
LAX-TUL (Tulsa, Okla.)

Long thin RJ route at 1283 miles. Easy enough to onestop on WN.

But good demand, strong business ties.

I will not be shocked to see AA enter this route soon.
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:46 am

How is it that LAX-OKC can support three nonstops a day (2X AA & 1X UA), but TUL can't support one nonstop to LAX?
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:54 am

In addition United will discontinue service to 3 markets entirely

o Port-au-Prince, Haiti
o Willemstad, Curacao
o Del Rio, Texas.

As the internal notification regarding all these route discontinuation stated - these routes have been unprofitable, and a big focus is on placing aircraft in markets that provide the best financial performance.
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Quoting deltairlines (Reply 3):
American dominates this market. Flying it SaSu only chases the leisure traveler. Those who want to fly UA can still get there easily via EWR/IAD

You say that as if there's anything but leisure/vfr to SJU. There hasn't been any meaningful business travel there in years.
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:10 am

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 5):
But good demand, strong business ties.

I will not be shocked to see AA enter this route soon.
Quoting mfricke (Reply 6):
How is it that LAX-OKC can support three nonstops a day (2X AA & 1X UA), but TUL can't support one nonstop to LAX?

AA is upping LAX-OKC to 3x daily CRJ.

Also, UA is starting LAX-ICT, and the ICT market considerably bleeds (mostly to WN) to OKC and TUL.

This means the OKC/TUL/ICT area will have five! nonstops to LAX with TUL being the odd man out. AA might try it if the 3x daily CR7 works out. Personally I'd like to see the region regain access to the MIA hub, which I still think is poorly connected to the midwest - no MIA-MCI/OKC/TUL/XNA/LIT/OMA/ABQ/DSM. It's impressive to me that AA prices routings to/thru MIA mostly through ORD, it seems, at least from my station.

The area is large and growing. I don't know why UA thinks that ICT is more lucrative than TUL, but I'm sure they know much more than I do about the subject. And best of luck to them at ICT - I love to see Kansas get better air service!
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:16 am

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 9):
no MIA-MCI/OKC/TUL/XNA/LIT/OMA/ABQ/DSM.

AA flies MIATUL, albeit only once weekly 738 service (TULMIA on Saturday; MIATUL on Sunday).
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:31 am

Quoting Aerowrench (Thread starter):
LAX-TUL (Tulsa, Okla.)

That sucks - I take that flight a few times a year. Always busy when I'm on it. Back to AA on the LAX-XNA flight. (My destination is almost smack between TUL and XNA, so it doesn't matter which one I go to).
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:34 am

Quoting Aerowrench (Thread starter):
IAH-CID (Cedar Rapids, Iowa)

Unfortunate to see this one go. While only a small portion of the seats out of CID, enplanements are up double digts in CID last year and this won't help for 2013.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
As the internal notification regarding all these route discontinuation stated - these routes have been unprofitable, and a big focus is on placing aircraft in markets that provide the best financial performance.

I'm so glad airlines are finally focusing on profits as they should be to please the shareholders and keep the business going.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:34 am

Quoting greg3322 (Reply 11):
Back to AA on the LAX-XNA flight

I thought didnt exist anymore.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:44 am

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 10):
AA flies MIATUL, albeit only once weekly 738 service (TULMIA on Saturday; MIATUL on Sunday).

Not anymore, unfortunately. Besides, it was just an aircraft re position with no real benefit to pax heading to central and south america.

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 13):
I thought didnt exist anymore.

Correct. Only "off the wall" route left at XNA is XNA-LGA on the ER3.
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:49 am

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 13):
I thought didnt exist anymore.

Shoot, I missed that one disappearing as I was using the UA flight. Back to connections, I guess.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:50 am

Yes LAX-XNA is gone on AA.

Allegiant also dropped LAX-XNA in November.

Quoting iowaman (Reply 12):
I'm so glad airlines are finally focusing on profits as they should be to please the shareholders and keep the business going.

  

Frankly this should always have been priority number #1, but over the decades many airlines have evolved in chasing flying that does not provide much to the bottom line, nor is strategically important in the bigger network picture.
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:59 am

Quoting iowaman (Reply 12):
Unfortunate to see this one go. While only a small portion of the seats out of CID, enplanements are up double digts in CID last year and this won't help for 2013.

IAH-CID is a bit of a surprise. DFW-CID is one of the highest yielding flights on American Eagle and flies 6x a daily and I would have thought UA could get in on it from IAH.
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:02 am

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 9):
AA is upping LAX-OKC to 3x daily CRJ.

Any idea when AA has planned the start date for this?
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:22 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
In addition United will discontinue service to 3 markets entirely

o Port-au-Prince, Haiti
o Willemstad, Curacao
o Del Rio, Texas.

Is Del Rio an EAS market?
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:33 am

Quoting greg3322 (Reply 11):
(My destination is almost smack between TUL and XNA, so it doesn't matter which one I go to).

Siloam Springs? Gentry? ?????
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:44 am

Quoting Aerowrench (Thread starter):
IAD-PNS (Pensacola, Fla.)
Quoting deltairlines (Reply 3):
Long thin 50 seater flight. Not a huge shocker. Only surprise is no real convenient option on UA to the Northeast now. Guess they figure they'll let DL/US/FL (for now) take it.

Long, thin, and now with competition, nonstop DCA-PNS. I'd imagine that on such a route, the DCA nonstop will usually crowd out the IAD nonstop.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:11 am

Everyone is "leaving" SJU! AE, BA, IB and now UA will have an even smaller presence; they were never too recignized in PRico, CO had more flights.
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:14 am

Schedules at many of their meduim cities are withering instead of strengthening since Continited came to be.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:40 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
In addition United will discontinue service...

Also seems like SFO-FLL is discontinued on 8/26.
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:10 am

Quoting mfricke (Reply 6):
How is it that LAX-OKC can support three nonstops a day (2X AA & 1X UA), but TUL can't support one nonstop to LAX?

OKC is a larger city (by around 330k people (or 34% larger than TUL in population)) that is booming, while TUL is relatively stagnant. Not really surprising that OKC is supporting more flights/routes. OKC and TUL are no longer twins, haven't been for some years now.
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:38 am

Bummer to see Del Rio go. They have left BPT (for bus) victoria, and earlier abilene, and san angelo. But, if they can't make money it makes sense.

I guess folks at the base in Del Rio will have to make the SAT drive again.
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:20 am

Quoting nws2002 (Reply 4):

Wasn't TUL-LAX started as a response to ExpressJet service from TUL-ONT? It seems like it began around that time, but I don't really remember for sure.

To my recollection, there weren't any routes started to respond to ExpressJet's ONT service, and I don't remember any discussion on a.net of legacies or LCCs starting up routes in response to them. The one exception was that WN started ONT-RNO after ExpressJet did (XE at the time, but now I think they are EV). I don't know if that happened anywhere else. From what I remember, they went after the largest connecting city pairs that were within range of their ERJs.

ExpressJet did branded flying from 2007-2008 so if LAX-TUL was a response to them, it outlasted by over 4 years.
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:25 am

Quoting Aerowrench (Thread starter):
IAD-MHT (Manchester, N.H.)

Wow...hard to believe that. Wonder what, if anything, it means for PWM.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:52 am

Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 28):
Quoting Aerowrench (Thread starter):IAD-MHT (Manchester, N.H.)
Wow...hard to believe that. Wonder what, if anything, it means for PWM.

I'm guessing that since PMW-IAD flights are frequently sold-out; since fares are through the roof most of the year, and since there is virtually no competition other than FL's nonstop PWM-BWI service, that the route will stand.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:58 am

IAH-CID is too bad. I'd like to see UA expand IAH flights into the Midwest like AA has done with DFW.


I am betting SFO-FLL is just a seasonal discontinue. I wonder if AA will pick up Del Rio like they did BPT?
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:24 pm

Well,I noticed that UA will start bringing in 73G/738/and 739 service to ROC starting in Feb from ORD. We have never had a 739 here,AFAIK.Certainly never had scheduled 738/ 9 service ,either . I read UA is going to put the A319/20's to S . America,(that's what we now get from ORD). That and WN replaces FL here in April. At least there will be some new-for-me metal to photograph,soon.
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:29 pm

Quoting deltairlines (Reply 3):
With the Amtrak deal, makes much more sense to throw passengers on a Keystone train from Center City than schlep to the airport and fly 15 minutes between two delay prone airports. It's quicker from downtown to EWR on Amtrak than it is on the plane.

Also US flies this at least 5x a day. And these flts had a horrible ontime percentage. I think many of them were in the 60-70% range.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:49 pm

Surprised they are canning EWR-PHL. Always a full flight, at least it was full when the didn't cancel it.
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:50 pm

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 8):
You say that as if there's anything but leisure/vfr to SJU. There hasn't been any meaningful business travel there in years.

San Juan gets a fair amount of conventions and sales-incentive trips. It benefits from the fact that passports aren't required and from IRS rules that frown on deductions for foreign travel.
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:02 pm

They are axing FLL-SFO? Didn't they just start or up frequency on this route?
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:56 pm

Quoting mfricke (Reply 6):
How is it that LAX-OKC can support three nonstops a day (2X AA & 1X UA), but TUL can't support one nonstop to LAX?

Simple, OKC > TUL...the pax numbers and mainline levels are proving it. And AA is adding a third n/s to LAX later this year, we have SFO service on UA that TUL doesn't...we have BWI/MCI service and 2x daily on LAS that TUL doesn't...and we have DL mainline to ATL...IIRC, TUL only has RJ's.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:01 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
o Del Rio, Texas.

American Eagle actually has the ground handling contract for United Express in DRT. I wonder if Eagle will turn around and start DFW-DRT service to maintain their station presence, or just go through the RIF proceedings?
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:06 pm

Quoting tharanga (Reply 21):
Long, thin, and now with competition, nonstop DCA-PNS. I'd imagine that on such a route, the DCA nonstop will usually crowd out the IAD nonstop.

Yeah, once US launched DCA-PNS, I knew that UA's days on the IAD-PNS route were numbered. Leaves UA in a weak position in the market as they can only effectively carry passengers west....not counting the Silver flights to MCO/TPA.

Interesting to see if the seasonal ORD-PNS survives.

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 29):
I'm guessing that since PMW-IAD flights are frequently sold-out; since fares are through the roof most of the year, and since there is virtually no competition other than FL's nonstop PWM-BWI service, that the route will stand.

US flies PWM-DCA as well, but I think PWM can survive.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:09 pm

Quoting delawareusa (Reply 33):
Surprised they are canning EWR-PHL. Always a full flight, at least it was full when the didn't cancel it.


Or always delayed while they wait to get into the flow of arrivals over PHL to EWR. Been to PHL many times over the years and the poor Dash was always sitting on a taxiway waiting and waiting. The train makes more sense as mentioned earlier.

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 26):
I guess folks at the base in Del Rio will have to make the SAT drive again.


Makes for a long day of travel when it starts/ends with the drive to SAT, or even adds a day increasing travel costs for the military. Sad to see that dropped for my friends who live and work at DLF.
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:10 pm

Quoting deltairlines (Reply 3):
With the Amtrak deal, makes much more sense to throw passengers on a Keystone train from Center City than schlep to the airport and fly 15 minutes between two delay prone airports. It's quicker from downtown to EWR on Amtrak than it is on the plane.
Quoting delawareusa (Reply 33):
Surprised they are canning EWR-PHL. Always a full flight, at least it was full when the didn't cancel it.

A couple things, as mentioned Amtrak serves the Newark Airport Rail Link station 9 times a day from Philadelphia 30th street station. The quickest train makes the trip in 59 minutes, when you factor in weather, delays etc.. that's going to be faster than flying PHL-EWR on most days. You also earn Mileageplus miles for traveling between EWR and Philadelphia, Stamford, Wilmington and New Haven.

http://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/Mark...tComm/Promotions/Pages/Amtrak.aspx

Also US still flies PHL-EWR and you can book those through UA and earn miles.

Second as part of the deal to VX to EWR UA, and Porter, are going to lose some slots.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/5650647/

AA has been leasing excess EWR slots to UA and Porter, now AA is going to lease them to VX so UA is losing those ten leased 10 slots. Also related to VX, UA is boosting EWR-LAX and EWR-SFO frequencies quite a bit. Those will obviously require some additional slots. They've decided to fund those needs with the PHL slots.
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:13 pm

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 36):

DL flies a 737-800 in the evening and a A319 in the afternoon to TUL
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:17 pm

Great, MHT-IAD.... As if MHT were not difficult enough as is to get in and out of   
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:07 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
In addition United will discontinue service to 3 markets entirely

o Port-au-Prince, Haiti
o Willemstad, Curacao

I don't get it...CUR is the largest (in size and population) of the ABC islands and yet gets the least amount of traffic from the USA...with UA's pullout, it pretty much leaves it to AA from MIA.

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 39):
Or always delayed while they wait to get into the flow of arrivals over PHL to EWR. Been to PHL many times over the years and the poor Dash was always sitting on a taxiway waiting and waiting. The train makes more sense as mentioned earlier.

Makes me even more glad I am flying the 6 am flight out on UA from PHL to EWR later this month before waiting 9.5 hours for our LH flight to DUS...because the later flight option on UA would've left me, my wife and my daughter with only an hour layover...yah right!

Quoting southwest737500 (Reply 41):

DL flies a 737-800 in the evening and a A319 in the afternoon to TUL

Since when? Obviously, I missed that one...oops.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:25 pm

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 37):
American Eagle actually has the ground handling contract for United Express in DRT. I wonder if Eagle will turn around and start DFW-DRT service to maintain their station presence, or just go through the RIF proceedings?

Anyone remember when LoneStar flew DFW-DRT with a D328 in the 1990s. They codeshared with AA. They also few from DFW to ASE and Ruidoso.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:32 pm

Surprised GSP-CLE is staying.

Actually, it doesn't look like UA is cutting anything from CLE (unless they are cutting capacity), Unlike DL with MEM and CVG.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:42 pm

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 38):
Yeah, once US launched DCA-PNS, I knew that UA's days on the IAD-PNS route were numbered. Leaves UA in a weak position in the market as they can only effectively carry passengers west....not counting the Silver flights to MCO/TPA.

Interesting to see if the seasonal ORD-PNS survives.

I could think that since IAD-PNS is being cancelled and now supposedly there will be an 'extra' aircraft, maybe DEN-PNS could work here? O&D alone has about an average of 100 pax per day DEN-PNS and with a catchment of MOB with about 40+ and Panama City with 50+ pax per day (some of these pax could be caught here maybe?) there is most likely enough O&D alone to fill a CR9 both ways daily. And of course, with some connects west of DEN that IAH may not do, DEN-PNS would seem like an easy go here........


 
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:51 pm

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 43):

For over a year TUL had a MD88 flight and just this year the second mainline was added. In the winter its a mix of A320s,738,737 for the last flight
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:56 pm

Quoting point2point (Reply 46):
And of course, with some connects west of DEN that IAH may not do, DEN-PNS would seem like an easy go here........

Theoretically, you might be right, but I don't see it happening. Any of the major markets in the West (LAX, SAN, SFO, PDX, SEA, LAS, PHX) are easily served through IAH. So adding DEN only improves access to a bunch of secondary markets that have little demand to PNS. UA does fly routes like HSV-DEN and TYS-DEN, but I think those are higher yielding since there's minimal LCC presence.

The upside is that the more the legacies pull down, it makes a stronger case for WN to keep PNS.
 
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RE: United Drops Several Markets Effective April 2013

Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:09 pm

Am I missing anything on the IAD-MHT flight? I've been flying to NH frequently over the past year, and all I've ever seen is a single poorly-timed flight that was either a late night arrival to MHT with a RON and early departure in the morning to IAD or a single midday flight; I've always found the USAirways DCA-MHT flights while always full, to be better options and competitively priced.
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