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OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:28 pm

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WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Non-daily operations create fractional weekly service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. If a flight operated 5 days out of 7, it would show 0.8 flights.

WHY ARE THERE WEIRD FREQUENCIES IN FAR AWAY MONTHS FOR LCCs?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. Their schedules may also end mid-month. If B6 loads their schedule until Jan15, all flights in Janaury will show half frequency because of the way the report is created.

WHY IS A WHOLE AIRLINE'S SCHEDULE SHOWN AS CHANGING FOR A FUTURE MONTH?
Similarly to the previous question, some airlines load their schedule from nothing inside the 9 month window of this report. When their schedule is extended it will show as new service because there was no previous schedule to compare to. In some instances I will show a more valid comparison against another period.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE PINNACLE
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THE FREQUENCY DOESN'T SHOW A CHANGE, E.G. 4>4
This happens as a result of rounding. There is a change in service that is large enough to be listed, but through rounding it does not appear.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".


9K ACK-HYA JUN 18>19
9K BOS-HYA JUN 4>3
9K STT-SJU FEB 9>10

AM ATL-MEX FEB 0.9>1.0
AM ATL-TLC FEB 0.1>0
AM BRO-MTY FEB 0.3>0.4
AM LAX-GDL FEB 1.0>1.3
AM ORD-GDL FEB 0.3>0.4

AV FLL-BOG FEB 1.0>0.9
AV JFK-MDE JUN 0.5>0.7 JUL 0.4>1.0 AUG 0.4>1.0 SEP 0.5>0.7
AV MIA-CLO FEB 1.0>0.9
AV MIA-CTG FEB 1.0>0.9

BA EWR-ORY FEB 1.7>1.6

BB SJU-EIS FEB 5>1.7 MAR 6>3
BB SJU-STT FEB 1.7>0.9 APR 4>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2
BB SJU-STX FEB 4>2 MAR 3>2
BB SJU-VIJ FEB 1.4>0.9 MAR 1.9>0.9 APR 1.9>0.9 MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0
BB SJU-VQS MAR 0>0.9
BB STT-EIS FEB 0>0.9 MAR 0>0.9
BB STT-SJU FEB 3>1.0 MAR 3>2 APR 4>3 MAY 4>3
BB STT-STX FEB 3>7 MAR 1.5>7
BB STX-SJU FEB 4>1.8 MAR 5>1.8
BB STX-VQS MAR 0>0.9
*BB VQS-SJU MAR 0>0.9 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.5>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.4>0 AUG 0.5>0

BW JFK-GEO MAR 0.2>0.5 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0>0.5 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.5 SEP 0>0.4

*CA IAH-PEK JUL 0.5>0 AUG 0.5>0 SEP 0.6>0

CI ROR-TPE FEB 0.6>0.5

DL ATL-BZN JUN 0.2>0.1
DL AUS-MCO MAR 0.2>0.1
DL BHM-MCO MAR 0.2>0.1
*DL LAX-BNA APR 0>0.8 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
DL MCO-MSY FEB 0.1>0.0
*DL RDU-TPA MAR 0.2>1.0 APR 0.0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
DL SLC-ANC MAY 1.4>1.0
DL SLC-ANC MAY 1.4>1.0 JUN 1.9>1.8

EJ BID-WST FEB 12>0 MAR 13>0 APR 12>0 MAY 12>0 JUN 12>0 JUL 12>0 AUG 12>0 SEP 12>0

FL DEN-CUN JUL 1.0>0.6 AUG 0.3>0.2
FL DEN-SJD MAR 0>0.7 APR 0>0.9 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3

G4 AZA-SGF AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 BIS-LAS JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.6>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3
G4 FAT-HNL JUL 0.1>0.3 AUG 0.2>0.3 SEP 0.1>0.3
G4 GFK-LAS JUN 0.6>0.4 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.6>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3
G4 IAG-SFB JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.6>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3
G4 ILM-SFB FEB 0.3>0.1
G4 RFD-SFB JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 SCK-HNL JUL 0.1>0.3 AUG 0.1>0.3 SEP 0.2>0.3
G4 SMX-HNL JUL 0.1>0.3 AUG 0.2>0.3 SEP 0.1>0.3

IS ACK-HYA FEB 14>15 MAR 14>15 APR 14>15 MAY 14>15 JUL 14>15 AUG 14>15

KE HNL-NRT APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
KE LAX-NRT APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0

LA MHC-PMC APR 0>0.5 MAY 0>0.6 JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>0.1
LA MIA-BOG FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0

LW HNM-OGG FEB 5>1.0 MAR 5>1.0 APR 5>1.0 MAY 5>1.0 JUN 5>1.0 JUL 5>1.0 AUG 5>1.0 SEP 5>1.0
LW OGG-HNM FEB 4>0 MAR 4>0 APR 4>0 MAY 4>0 JUN 4>0 JUL 4>0 AUG 4>0 SEP 4>0

LX JFK-ZRH FEB 2>1.9

NH ORD-NRT JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2 SEP 1.0>2

Lots of NK cutback at ACY going into Summer
NK ACY-BOS APR 0.4>0.2 MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0
NK ACY-FLL MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2
NK ACY-MYR MAY 2>1.1 JUN 2>1.2 JUL 2>1.1 AUG 2>1.2
*NK ATL-DFW JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2
NK CRW-MYR MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3
NK DFW-MSY JUN 1.6>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0
NK DFW-TPA JUN 0.8>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.6 AUG 1.0>0.6
NK DTW-MCO MAY 2>1.4 JUN 2>1.5 JUL 2>1.4 AUG 2>1.5
NK LAS-ORD MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2

PD BOS-YTZ MAY 6>7 JUL 6>7 SEP 6>7

RJ JFK-AMM APR 0.7>0.6

SQ EWR-SIN MAR 1.0>0.9

TN LAX-CDG FEB 0.4>0.3

UA CLE-BDL JUL 3>4
UA CLE-BTV MAY 1.0>0.7
UA CLE-PVD JUN 1.8>3 JUL 1.8>3 AUG 1.6>3
UA CLE-PWM MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 0.9>1.8 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 0.8>1.6
UA CLE-SDF JUL 3>4
UA DEN-EGE JUN 3>1.8 JUL 3>2
UA DEN-LAS MAY 4>6
UA DEN-MCO MAY 3>4
UA DEN-PDX MAY 4>5
UA DEN-PHX MAY 4>5
UA EWR-CUR JUN 0.1>0
UA EWR-LIR MAY 1.0>0.3 JUN 1.0>0.9
UA EWR-PBI JUL 7>4 AUG 7>4 SEP 7>4
UA FLL-FPO FEB 1.4>1.9 MAR 1.1>2 APR 1.1>2 MAY 1.2>2 JUN 1.1>2 JUL 1.1>2 AUG 1.2>2 SEP 0.9>1.8
UA FLL-GGT FEB 0.9>1.1 MAR 0.8>1.3 APR 0.7>1.1 MAY 0.7>1.1 JUN 0.7>1.2
UA FLL-GHB FEB 0.9>0.7 MAR 1.0>0.7 APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 1.0>0.7 JUL 1.0>0.7
UA FLL-MHH FEB 1.5>1.6 MAR 1.9>3 APR 1.8>3 MAY 1.8>3 JUN 1.9>3 JUL 1.8>3 AUG 1.2>1.5
UA FLL-TCB MAR 1.2>1.4 APR 1.1>1.4 MAY 1.1>1.4 JUN 1.2>1.5 JUL 1.1>1.4
UA GUM-NRT JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4 SEP 3>4
UA IAD-SAV MAY 3>4
UA IAH-BNA MAY 7>6
UA IAH-CMH MAY 4>5 JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5 SEP 4>5
UA IAH-LAS JUN 8>9 JUL 8>9 AUG 8>9
UA IAH-MCO APR 6>7
UA IAH-MOB MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
UA IAH-PHL MAY 5>4
UA IAH-PNS MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
UA IAH-RDU MAY 5>4
UA IAH-TUL MAY 8>9 JUN 8>9 JUL 8>9 AUG 8>9 SEP 8>9
UA IAH-VPS MAY 2>3 SEP 2>3
UA LAS-PSP JUL 3>2
UA LAX-BWI MAY 1.9>0.9
UA LAX-EWR AUG 13>14 SEP 8>13
UA LAX-IAD JUN 8>9 JUL 8>9 AUG 8>9
UA LAX-ITO MAY 1.0>0.9
UA LAX-LIH JUN 1.2>1.9 JUL 1.1>2 AUG 1.2>1.9
UA MCO-PNS MAR 1.7>3 APR 1.7>3 MAY 1.7>3 JUN 1.7>3 JUL 1.7>3 AUG 1.7>3 SEP 1.7>3
UA ORD-BOS APR 8>9
UA ORD-DAY MAY 6>7 JUN 6>7 JUL 6>7 AUG 6>7
UA ORD-LAS MAY 6>5 JUN 6>5 JUL 6>5
UA ORD-MIA JUN 2>1.2 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0 SEP 3>1.2
UA ORD-SJU JUN 0.3>0.1
UA ORD-YVR JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5
UA SEA-ANC MAY 2>1.9
UA SFO-BOS JUN 7>8 JUL 7>8 AUG 7>8
UA SFO-EWR SEP 8>13
UA SFO-LAX JUN 14>13 JUL 15>14 AUG 15>14
UA SFO-YVR JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5

*UN MIA-DME MAY 0.1>0 JUN 0.1>0 JUL 0.2>0 AUG 0.1>0
UN MIA-VKO MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.2>0.3 JUL 0.1>0.3 AUG 0.2>0.3

US CLT-AGS APR 7>8
US CLT-FPO AUG 1.0>0.7 SEP 0.2>0.0
US CLT-GCM SEP 0.6>0.5
US CLT-MBJ SEP 3>2
US CLT-NAS SEP 1.0>0.9
US CLT-SJO SEP 0.2>0
US CLT-SJU SEP 1.5>0.8
US CLT-STT SEP 0.3>0.2
US CLT-SXM SEP 0.4>0.2
US DCA-MCO JUN 6>7 JUL 6>7
US PHL-AUA SEP 0.3>0.1
US PHL-CUN SEP 1.0>0.6
US PHL-MBJ SEP 1.0>0.4
US PHL-MCO JUN 7>8
US PHL-NAS SEP 0.4>0.3
US PHL-PBI JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2
US PHL-SDQ SEP 0.1>0
US PHL-SJU SEP 3>1.7
*US PHL-SLC JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
US PHL-SMF MAY 0.9>0.3
US PHX-BOS JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3
US PHX-MEX SEP 2>1.9
US PHX-SJD AUG 4>3

VB SAT-MTY FEB 0.4>0.3

WG MCO-YHZ MAR 0.1>0.3 APR 0.1>0.3
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:43 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA CLE-BDL JUL 3>4
UA CLE-BTV MAY 1.0>0.7
UA CLE-PVD JUN 1.8>3 JUL 1.8>3 AUG 1.6>3
UA CLE-PWM MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 0.9>1.8 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 0.8>1.6
UA CLE-SDF JUL 3>4

Good for CLE.
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:47 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*US PHL-SLC JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0

I was wondering when US was finally going to launch this route. They should do well on this route, especially with Northeast and European connections in PHL. Does anyone know if DL flies this route as well?
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:49 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Lots of NK cutback at ACY going into Summer

I wonder if ATL and ORD will even come back at this point!!
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:54 pm

I did not see UAs annoucment of pulling the plug on PAP in your list...

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
LA MIA-BOG FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0

What happened here?

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
US CLT-SJO SEP 0.2>0

This may seem trivial in the big scheme of things....but it is a biggie.....US has serves SJO year round for many many years......guess they are now moving it to seasonal service....which is a bad move if you have any hope of retaining your VFR traffic.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
US CLT-GCM SEP 0.6>0.5
US CLT-MBJ SEP 3>2
US CLT-NAS SEP 1.0>0.9
US CLT-SJO SEP 0.2>0
US CLT-SJU SEP 1.5>0.8
US CLT-STT SEP 0.3>0.2
US CLT-SXM SEP 0.4>0.2
US DCA-MCO JUN 6>7 JUL 6>7
US PHL-AUA SEP 0.3>0.1
US PHL-CUN SEP 1.0>0.6
US PHL-MBJ SEP 1.0>0.4
US PHL-MCO JUN 7>8
US PHL-NAS SEP 0.4>0.3
US PHL-PBI JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2
US PHL-SDQ SEP 0.1>0
US PHL-SJU SEP 3>1.7

Gearing up for the AA merger
     
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:01 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
LA MIA-BOG FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0

LAN Colombia will continue to operate the BOG-MIA route daily.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:03 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*US PHL-SLC JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0

Nice. Does this mean that they are happy with the traffic they get on SLC-CLT? It's good to see SLC get more non-DL connections to the east coast. I have friends who would still love to see UA bring back the former CO service to EWR.

Checked the schedule for dates in July:
US 306 08:25 SLC 14:44 PHL A320
US 305 18:10 PHL 21:04 SLC A320

Seems to be timed well for European connections in both directions. US runs SLC-CLT as a red-eye, timed more for domestic connections.

Opposite times compared to DL's schedule on the same days:
DL 988 17:15 SLC 23:34 PHL 738
DL 987 07:25 PHL 10:18 SLC 738

[Edited 2013-01-07 09:05:29]

[Edited 2013-01-07 09:14:21]
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:09 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
US PHL-SMF MAY 0.9>0.3

This is an interesting one going into the busy summer season.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:30 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
NK CRW-MYR MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3

I really...really...........really hope this isnt going back to 2x like last summer. Alas.. that's what .3 works out to.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:34 pm

Quoting nkops (Reply 3):
I wonder if ATL and ORD will even come back at this point!!

It's ironic that the country has two ULCCs now (NK and F9). NK is backing away from most alternate airports and F9 is moving toward them.

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 7):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
US PHL-SMF MAY 0.9>0.3

This is an interesting one going into the busy summer season.

Most airlines are punishing SMF for huge jumps in airport fees from their ludicrous building binge. Twin monorails, two terminals? Give me a break...
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:56 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):US CLT-SJO SEP 0.2>0
This may seem trivial in the big scheme of things....but it is a biggie.....US has serves SJO year round for many many years......guess they are now moving it to seasonal service....which is a bad move if you have any hope of retaining your VFR traffic.

This reduction does seem a little odd, considering it has been flown year round for several years with equipment as large as a 752. Flight doesn't even operate more than weekly in late November, considering they can pull off a daily 319 in the summer.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):US CLT-GCM SEP 0.6>0.5
US CLT-MBJ SEP 3>2
US CLT-NAS SEP 1.0>0.9
US CLT-SJO SEP 0.2>0
US CLT-SJU SEP 1.5>0.8
US CLT-STT SEP 0.3>0.2
US CLT-SXM SEP 0.4>0.2
US DCA-MCO JUN 6>7 JUL 6>7
US PHL-AUA SEP 0.3>0.1
US PHL-CUN SEP 1.0>0.6
US PHL-MBJ SEP 1.0>0.4
US PHL-MCO JUN 7>8
US PHL-NAS SEP 0.4>0.3
US PHL-PBI JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2
US PHL-SDQ SEP 0.1>0
US PHL-SJU SEP 3>1.7
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I would say these are all just capacity reductions in the low season, but at the same time I can't remember when CLT-SJU/NAS/STT/SXM was flown less than daily, considering all are flown daily in the summer, or in the case of NAS and SJU, thrice and twice daily, respectively. STT and SXM are all flown with 757s this summer, as is SJO. Where are all the 757s going to go?

On the other hand, SXM, SJU, and NAS all seem to return to daily service in November, and NAS seems to be daily throughout October.

I wouldn't say these reductions have anything to do with a merger, but it makes me wonder, is US doing that bad in the Caribbean?
E135/E140/E145/E70/E75/E90/CR2/CR7/CR9/717/732/733/734/735/73G/738/739/752/753/762/772/77W/319/320/321/333/343
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:17 pm

Wow, three cuts from NKs ACY summer schedule, pretty big for a station that was seeing only 14-15 or so daily depatures in the summer. I don't see this capacity being added elsewhere in ACY on NK, and all this after ACY just completed a nice 4 or 5 gate expantion to the concourse. I know super storm Sandy really took a toll on Atlantic City and Spirit really felt this toll at ACY. While Spirit was profiting in ACY before Sandy, the numbers weren't as good as they were in the past in ACY and NK is profiting much more in other parts of their system currently, so I think a drawdown of ACY was inevitable.

This capacity does have to go somewhere so with the ACY cuts and the other cuts elsewhere, I'm interested to see what cities or frequencies get added. I'm betting new service announcements are coming shortly as this seems to be the trend when Spirit shows large OAG changes with mostly cuts.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:32 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL AUS-MCO MAR 0.2>0.1

Is this a glitch? The only airlines that serve AUS-MCO are B6 and WN, which neither have a codeshare with DL.

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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:31 am

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 10):
Where are all the 757s going to go?

There is some rumour going around that they are going to be getting reconfigured to some kind of new domestic configuration this fall, so maybe that?
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:53 am

Quoting beechtobus (Reply 11):
Wow, three cuts from NKs ACY summer schedule,

More room for F9 at TTN.

Quoting beechtobus (Reply 11):
I'm betting new service announcements are coming shortly as this seems to be the trend when Spirit shows large OAG changes with mostly cuts.

I think you are right. Another wave for May or June is coming I think.

Quoting AUSisAwesome (Reply 12):
Is this a glitch? The only airlines that serve AUS-MCO are B6 and WN, which neither have a codeshare with DL.

It's not a code share. Why would you think it isn't real?
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:01 am

Quoting beechtobus (Reply 11):
This capacity does have to go somewhere so with the ACY cuts and the other cuts elsewhere, I'm interested to see what cities or frequencies get added. I'm betting new service announcements are coming shortly as this seems to be the trend when Spirit shows large OAG changes with mostly cuts.

Exactly what I am thinking. Not only these cuts in existing schedules but I believe new a/c arriving in-house as well.

However, we do need to remember that NK has already announced 3 new DFW-routes to start 4/25 and 2 more in June so some of these cuts could simply be funding those new flights...

I've certainly got my wish list and I'd love to see a couple of those items get the nod... We'll see what happens..

  

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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:03 am

Korean Air HNL-NRT? Wow, that's out of left field.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:07 am

So is DL schedule March set in stone now? There aren't any more updates? When I say DL I mean Pinnacle.

I say this because I have had my flight changed previously. I am worried they will cancel the one segment and throw a wrench in my other flights to maximize my time off.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:18 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
KE HNL-NRT APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
KE LAX-NRT APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0

Hmmmmmmmmm going for the most lucrative leisure route are they......

Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):

Indeed. Somehow UA is doing it.
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:39 am

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 10):
I would say these are all just capacity reductions in the low season, but at the same time I can't remember when CLT-SJU/NAS/STT/SXM was flown less than daily, considering all are flown daily in the summer, or in the case of NAS and SJU, thrice and twice daily, respectively. STT and SXM are all flown with 757s this summer, as is SJO. Where are all the 757s going to go?

On the other hand, SXM, SJU, and NAS all seem to return to daily service in November, and NAS seems to be daily throughout October.

I wouldn't say these reductions have anything to do with a merger, but it makes me wonder, is US doing that bad in the Caribbean?

September is an awful month for going to those destinations. Between hurricanes, all the students back in school and families just settling in from their summer vacation it isnt worth it. US started those capacity controls about 2-3 years ago with SXM, GCM, SJO. This is nothing new. Passport control is a much more civil place in the month of September and October in CLT.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:41 am

Quoting enilria (Reply 14):
It's not a code share. Why would you think it isn't real?

DL does not serve AUS-MCO and the post says the route is already being served by DL. Just wondering why it says the route is served by DL.
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:46 am

Quoting AUSisAwesome (Reply 20):
and the post says the route is already being served by DL.

No, read it again. It says DL is planning to serve it in March and has adjusted the frequency. These are doubtless flights that just operate a few times (probably weekends) for spring break.
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:51 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 21):
No, read it again. It says DL is planning to serve it in March and has adjusted the frequency. These are doubtless flights that just operate a few times (probably weekends) for spring break.

I stand corrected. I just ran a search on Delta.com and it pulls up a N/S on Saturday. Apologies for my ignorance, it's just a route DL has never been know to have their hands on.
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:12 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 21):
No, read it again. It says DL is planning to serve it in March and has adjusted the frequency. These are doubtless flights that just operate a few times (probably weekends) for spring break.

Respectfully, I just read it three times myself. 0.2>0.1 certainly seems to be a reduction in service, unless I've been reading these threads incorrectly for the last few years.

Quoting enilria (Reply 14):
It's not a code share. Why would you think it isn't real?
Quoting AUSisAwesome (Reply 20):
DL does not serve AUS-MCO and the post says the route is already being served by DL. Just wondering why it says the route is served by DL.

  

If DL is serving this route, then it doesn't seem to have started yet and will be very short lived. I have never seen one of these flights, nor BHM or MSY for that matter. WN yes, DL no.

I really enjoy these threads enilria, but I share AUSisAwesome's confusion here.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:16 am

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 6):
I have friends who would still love to see UA bring back the former CO service to EWR.

when was the last time CO flew this route? I would love UA to bring the service back as well!
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:13 am

Quoting mcoatc (Reply 23):
0.2>0.1 certainly seems to be a reduction in service, unless I've been reading these threads incorrectly for the last few years.

It's a reduction in what is for sale this week for travel in March vs. what was for sale last week for travel in March. DL is going to serve it for a few days in March but has reduced their planned schedule.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:19 am

Quoting boberito6589 (Reply 13):
There is some rumour going around that they are going to be getting reconfigured to some kind of new domestic configuration this fall, so maybe that?

Really? Wow..interesting. First time I've heard about it.

Quoting brandonfsu05 (Reply 19):
September is an awful month for going to those destinations. Between hurricanes, all the students back in school and families just settling in from their summer vacation it isnt worth it. US started those capacity controls about 2-3 years ago with SXM, GCM, SJO. This is nothing new. Passport control is a much more civil place in the month of September and October in CLT.

Yeah, your right. Looking at the schedule, most places are back to daily in October, excluding STT and SJO.
E135/E140/E145/E70/E75/E90/CR2/CR7/CR9/717/732/733/734/735/73G/738/739/752/753/762/772/77W/319/320/321/333/343
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:19 am

DL has a whole bunch of cities where they are operating Saturday-only, or Sat/Sun-only service to MCO and/or CUN during the peak spring break travel period in March.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:08 am

Quoting apodino (Reply 2):

DL flies this route once daily with a 738. The flight leaves PHL at 7:10 AM and arrives in SLC at 10:18 AM.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:03 am

I certainly didn't know of DL plans for a non-stop to LAX from BNA. Is their some regional service on DL that can feed it a little or will it all be from the LAX end?

I see now that another thread has been dedicated to this particular subject. Suggest delete if desired.

[Edited 2013-01-07 22:08:21]
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:27 pm

Quoting BD338 (Reply 24):
when was the last time CO flew this route? I would love UA to bring the service back as well!

CO dropped SLC-EWR in 2008 as part of a larger cost cutting campaign. I don't know when the route originally started, but I seem to remember friends flying it in the 90s.
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:57 pm

I didn't see it anywhere, but it looks like AA SJC-ORD is going down to 1 daily. Maybe that's just for the Winter season.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:40 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA CLE-BDL JUL 3>4
UA CLE-BTV MAY 1.0>0.7
UA CLE-PVD JUN 1.8>3 JUL 1.8>3 AUG 1.6>3
UA CLE-PWM MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 0.9>1.8 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 0.8>1.6
UA CLE-SDF JUL 3>4

Good for CLE.

Yes, but except for PWM these are very late add-backs of the post-Christmas schedule reductions. From CLE's point of view, better late than never.

[Edited 2013-01-08 08:41:01]
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:05 pm

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 28):
DL flies this route once daily with a 738. The flight leaves PHL at 7:10 AM and arrives in SLC at 10:18 AM.

FWIW, DL flew SLC-PHL double daily for the longest time. It was after the NW merger and the MSP/DTW hubs that they cut it down to 1x day
 
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RE: OAG Changes 1/11/13: DL/NK/UA/US

Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:04 pm

Quoting YYZAMS (Reply 17):

So is DL schedule March set in stone now? There aren't any more updates? When I say DL I mean Pinnacle.

It's not over till the fat lady sings. It could still change. Probably not 100% till 30 days prior.

Quoting AUSisAwesome (Reply 20):
DL does not serve AUS-MCO and the post says the route is already being served by DL. Just wondering why it says the route is served by DL.
Quoting AUSisAwesome (Reply 22):
I stand corrected. I just ran a search on Delta.com and it pulls up a N/S on Saturday. Apologies for my ignorance, it's just a route DL has never been know to have their hands on.
Quoting mcoatc (Reply 23):
Respectfully, I just read it three times myself. 0.2>0.1 certainly seems to be a reduction in service, unless I've been reading these threads incorrectly for the last few years.
Quoting mcoatc (Reply 23):
If DL is serving this route, then it doesn't seem to have started yet and will be very short lived. I have never seen one of these flights, nor BHM or MSY for that matter. WN yes, DL no.
I really enjoy these threads enilria, but I share AUSisAwesome's confusion here.
Quoting vatveng (Reply 25):
It's a reduction in what is for sale this week for travel in March vs. what was for sale last week for travel in March. DL is going to serve it for a few days in March but has reduced their planned schedule.
Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 27):
DL has a whole bunch of cities where they are operating Saturday-only, or Sat/Sun-only service to MCO and/or CUN during the peak spring break travel period in March.

It is now scheduled to operate twice in March with a CR9 and it was scheduled to operate 5 times prior to this schedule load, thus it is a reduction. I'm not sure why that is so confusing. When people say "DL does not fly AUS-MCO", I guess I'd say the schedule is what determines that more than past experience.  
Quoting m404 (Reply 29):

I certainly didn't know of DL plans for a non-stop to LAX from BNA. Is their some regional service on DL that can feed it a little or will it all be from the LAX end?

It's retaliation for RDU-LAX on AA.

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