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Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:48 pm

I was reading an article in the ft about easyjet and a potential growth plan.
It suggested 3 options, one though a large order either with a or b. The other to buy another carrier
With orders such as norweigen or wizz. The last option is to do nothing . They have options on another 40 a/c
So could grow at 5% year but could miss out on opportunities to expand.

What do people think is the most likely ?
 
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:38 pm

I'd prefer they order their tail-mounted, unducted fan engine design that they unveiled a couple years ago.
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:05 am

I think they will order more a/c. NEO has to be a front runner, I wouldnt think they would go back to B after dropping them, but we could have said the same about going to A when the 73G's replaced the 733's I suppose. Depending on the size of the order, a split fleet could be quite possible like DY of course.

However, if that is going to be the case I also think they may go C Series, I think it has a real chance. Would be good to cover those smaller markets like BRS, LPL and NCL. CS300 & 320NEO could work pretty well IMO.

Quoting f4f3a (Thread starter):
The other to buy another carrier

Not a lot of options really.

LS locally for full coverage of the UK.

ZB - sure hope not as an ex LTN boy, but they are drifting away from IT holidays into U2's territory with a complementary fleet, plus their mx hangars & head offices next door to each other at LTN.

W6 maybe - right a/c but wrong engines.

The rest Im not sure the current owners would be keen to sell eg HV, HG for fear of a short term gain to close themselves out of the market long term as Europe turns orange.
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:05 am

Aer Lingus, Air Berlin, come to mind as well run potential acquisitions.
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:28 am

A Boeing order may not seem that far fetched since it would be easier to run past stelios .
I don't think air Berlin would be suitable as there are a lot of problems there .
One possibility would be l agil azure based in cdg and ory. Slots would be good and they operate airbus a/c and give access to norh Africa.
It is a real gamble buying new planes unless they can get the same kind of deal they got last time, which I think would be difficult . I think it has become a sellers market with orders back logged many years.
 
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:11 am

Won't happen but if Gatwick was chosen for the second (long) runway then it would be nice to see Easy Jet as the European "Spokes" for the new alternative international "Hub". They could provide a great cost effective service for both y and biz to most destinations in Europe/N Africa.
 
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:15 am

Quoting f4f3a (Reply 4):
A Boeing order may not seem that far fetched since it would be easier to run past stelios .

I wouldn't be too sure... He burnt his bridges with Boeing. Even his new airline, Fastjet is Airbus only.
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:49 am

Quoting f4f3a (Thread starter):
What do people think is the most likely ?

If ezy has the same 'state of mind' as Ryanair has (ie demanding the same conditions as they got during their last order) you might think ezy would not order at all (just like Ryanair) given the huge amount of A320's Airbus has in its backlog (less likely to give huge discounts). Or is that more a typical Ryanair thing and will Easyjet pay the premium?
 
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:41 am

Quoting PH-BFA (Reply 7):

If ezy has the same 'state of mind' as Ryanair has (ie demanding the same conditions as they got during their last order) you might think ezy would not order at all (just like Ryanair) given the huge amount of A320's Airbus has in its backlog (less likely to give huge discounts). Or is that more a typical Ryanair thing and will Easyjet pay the premium?

U2 and FR are two compeltely different kettles of fish... U2's new management is not as aggresive as MOL and his cronies and the impression I get is that they would rather keep a good relationship the manufacturers instead of pissing them off, which is what Ryanair has done with Boeing and indeed Airbus (the latter who seemingly are refusing to sell him planes at cut price rates).
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:00 am

I really want to see U2 landing the next big coup by selecting an aircraft that beats the other airlines. After all, it's the airline I like most (although there are things I hate about it, too  ).

In Germany, the German Federal Railways/Deutsche Bahn monopoly on long-distance bus lines fell. Several long-distance bus enterprises were newly founded, and I've already traveled with one of them (DUS-BSL). The voyage took me nine hours and cost me US$ 51 (normal fare), while the discounted, early-booker railway fare for the same route clocks in at US$ 77, but the travel time is only 4.5 hours. Taking the bus is a great thing if you're tired and want to sleep (or if you have a book to read).

Somehow I can imagine the same development for low-cost carriers - modern turboprops with a capacity of 130 to 170 passengers, a travel time that is by about 10 to 30% longer, but cheaper fares.

What do you think?

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 6):
Fastjet

Does anybody know the cruising speed of Fastjet's A319s?


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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:03 am

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 2):
Would be good to cover those smaller markets like BRS, LPL and NCL. CS300 & 320NEO could work pretty well IMO.

Sounds not too far fatched given that the A319NEO will be too much of an airplane for what they need carrying a lot of extra weight and has a range that is not needed by U2.
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:38 pm

It would be great to see the cs 300 but I think it's prob too bigger risk since it hasn't flown yet. I had heard a rumour that
The c series had been ruled out and any a/c would be a vs b.
 
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:26 pm

A319 cruise spd .72-.82 average cruise around.77
 
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:27 pm

Quoting f4f3a (Reply 12):
A319 cruise spd .72-.82

A320 family aircraft cruise between 0.78 and 0.8. But the (recommended) Vne is 0.82  
 
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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:46 pm

Quoting f4f3a (Reply 12):
Quoting 0xigen (Reply 13):

D'oh. Thank you, so I don't have to worry about flying in Africa.

And to keep it easy, Easyjet's pilots can only chose two cruise speeds, 0 and 1?   


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RE: Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?

Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:50 pm

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 9):
Does anybody know the cruising speed of Fastjet's A319s?

I think your joke went over most peoples' heads!   
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