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TUI Looking For New NB Fleet

Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:50 pm

[quote]Jan 16 (Reuters) - Britain's TUI Travel is in talks with Airbus and Boeing about a potential plane order worth $6 billion at list prices to renew its fleet over the next decade, sources familiar with the matter said.[/unquote]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...itravel-fleet-idUSWEA007Q120130116

Apparently they are looking for 60 narrowbodies - that would be the replacement for the 738s and 752s in my opinion. Hard to see Boeing loose this one.
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RE: TUI Looking For New NB Fleet

Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:05 pm

Recent trends would suggest Boeing has the inside edge, but a 225 seat A321neo must be an incredibly tempting option to replace the B757s.

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RE: TUI Looking For New NB Fleet

Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:36 pm

I assume being TUI Travel its for Thomson Airways with a fleet of:

26x 737-800's and 5 on order
19x 757's (3 to leave by the end of winter this year)

17 of the 737's currently in the fleet were delivered within the past 2 years.

That seems like some serious forward planning considering they are sitll having new aircraft delivered unless they are planning on expanding. Are they just responding whilst delivery slots are still available?

Can the 737's reach all the places TOM send the 757's such as all the Egypt and Cape Verde routes?
 
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RE: TUI Looking For New NB Fleet

Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:05 pm

Seems like too many planes for just the UK, might this order be for the group as a whole? - Lots of early build 738's over at TUI Germany...........
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RE: TUI Looking For New NB Fleet

Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:03 pm

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 1):
Recent trends would suggest Boeing has the inside edge, but a 225 seat A321neo must be an incredibly tempting option to replace the B757s.

Indeed, they were looking at a sharklet-equipped non-NEO A321 in 2010 as a potential 757 replacement.
http://business.highbeam.com/411058/...et-a321-eyed-thomson-757-successor

This order is Boeing's to lose, although the chance for Airbus to gain an order to replace the best part of 140 aircraft will mean that the're likely to fight this one aggresively. TUI have recently ordered new A330s for Corsair, so it's not as if they are completely averse to Airbus. The decision to remove the ex-First Choice A320/321 fleet seems to have been based on the clash with the much larger number of 737s already operated at the time of the merger.

With the size of the NEO/MAX backlogs, by the time any ordered aircraft are delivered, even aircraft that are new now will be approaching their 10th birthday!

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RE: TUI Looking For New NB Fleet

Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:11 pm

Thomson Airways have pretty much got rid of all their Airbus aircraft (apart from G-OOPE which is still flying around). I imagine that they have probably got rid of their Airbus fleet managers and maintenance programs too.

So why would Thomson Airways want to order Airbus A320's, either Sharklets or NEO? Seems daft to me.

Thomson have another 5 737-800's on order and 8 B787's, with options for another 13 787's. (data taken from Jethros).

I think that this order is for TUIfly (Germany) and not Thomson Airways. Either that, or they are looking to order aircraft in around 10-15 years time, when their first lot of 737's (the ones registered G-FDZ something) are starting to age a bit.

The only other possibility is that they may order a slightly bigger aircraft to replace their 19 757's with, but that still doesn't equate to an order of 60 aircraft as mentioned above.
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RE: TUI Looking For New NB Fleet

Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:28 pm

This may also be for several airlines at once.

Don't forgot that there's half-a-dozen airlines under the TUI umbrella, so it's entirely possible they're trying to get a volume discount for the whole group.

Between TUIfly (Germany), TUIfly Nordic (Sweden), ArkeFly (Netherlands), JetAirFly (Belgium), CorsairFly (France) and Thomson (UK), there are a lot of aircraft around that will need replacing someday.
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RE: TUI Looking For New NB Fleet

Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:09 pm

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 6):

Corsairfly are no longer part of the TUI group, they became independent in 2012 when they introduced a new livery.
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RE: TUI Looking For New NB Fleet

Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:23 pm

Quoting tomkell92 (Reply 7):

Corsairfly are no longer part of the TUI group, they became independent in 2012 when they introduced a new livery.

I have to disagree.

http://www.corsair.fr/flight/Informations/our-company

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