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Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:43 am

What routes did Pan Am primarily serve from LGA and LAX in the 1980s?

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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:48 am

LAX was a base so quite a bit.

During the 1980s (which was a decade of much change for PA) they had flights to places like FRA, LHR, JFK, MIA, IAH, LAS, IAD, MSY, SFO, SEA, SAN, SNA, AKL, SYD, CCS, NRT, HNL, GUA, MEX, etc.. and probably a few I don't recall at the moment.
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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:29 pm

Pan Am flew from LAX-SNA and LAX-SEA?
 
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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:49 pm

This link will answer most of your questions:

http://www.departedflights.com/timetables2.html

Down the page a bit are links to old PA timetables.
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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:52 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2):
Pan Am flew from LAX-SNA and LAX-SEA?

Yes sir

SEA was 747 and SNA was on a Twin Otter.


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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:19 pm

In the early 80s, PA used to operate certain days of the week the Clipper 122/123 as a continuation flight from SFO, with full domestic carry rights. I had the good fortune to fly one of those trips from SFO-SEA on a 747 in the days when Clipper Class (J) was an eight across configuration on the main deck.

In the late 80s when I last flew PA from SEA-LHR, I had the good fortune to be upgraded to F class (the cabin was a bit tired but the service was, while delivered by VERY senior cabin attendants, was impeccable). On the return LHR-LAX (in the late 80s in the winter the service was not daily), I was in Clipper Class upstairs. While very nice, it was a 11.5 hour flight.

From LAX, however, Pan Am went EVERYWHERE. Europe, Asia, Central and South America...there were very few destinations that were not served by Pan Am.

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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:39 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2):
Pan Am flew from LAX-SNA and LAX-SEA?

Yes sir

SEA was 747 and SNA was on a Twin Otter.

Of course, that's not the Pan Am that I think of when I think of Pan Am. That's that the "real" Pan Am" flying to places like SNA and LGA with the likes of 737s and Twin Otters. You know what I mean.
 
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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:29 pm

Interesting LAX-CCS that's an interesting one.
 
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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:33 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
SNA was on a Twin Otter.

Pan Am livery but not operated by Pan Am.
 
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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:39 pm

Quoting kjfk527 (Reply 7):
Interesting LAX-CCS that's an interesting one.

Part of service that continued to Brazil. Both 747 and L15s.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):
Pan Am livery but not operated by Pan Am.

Why would it matter.

Still marketed and sold as Pan Am. Same as the commuter ops in the Northeast, Florida or the European ATR ops by Pan Am.

Its similar to how one would answer if Delta or United today serve many dozen smaller markets in the US.
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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:35 am

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2):
Pan Am flew from LAX-SNA and LAX-SEA?

As stated above, the SEA-LAX-SEA flights operated with 747's, much like the SEA-SFO-SEA route PA offered at different times, they were the tag off the LHR-SEA flight. They operated 3-4 times a week, IIRC, only during the off season. PA had excellent stand-by fares for $69-79 o/w, I have a printed brochure of the details of this service, PA did what they could to get a warm butt in every seat possible. At one time or another PA has flown 747's from SEA to PDX/SFO/LAX.
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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:46 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 10):
At one time or another PA has flown 747's from SEA to PDX/SFO/LAX.

When did they operate SEA-PDX with 747s (presumably as a tag-on from LHR?) I can't recall seeing that in a Pan Am timetable. I flew Pan Am frequently in the 1980s SEA-LHR-SEA and the flights usually originated at either SFO or LAX (mostly SFO I think), and if not mistaken sometimes turned around at SEA. I can't remember any flights originating at PDX. I know PDX was included in 707 days.
 
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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:14 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
When did they operate SEA-PDX with 747s (presumably as a tag-on from LHR?)

PA did PDX-SEA-HNL back when PA was the real PA. I think that might have been a 747 sometimes. PA also did PDX-SEA-FAI but I don't believe that was ever a 747. The only two places that PA flew from PDX were SEA and HNL prior to deregulation and the NA merger.
 
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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:56 am

Pan Am at LGA in the 1980s consisted of flight from LGA-MIA and the LGA-DCA and LGA-BOS shuttle as all the other routes from LGA inherited from National were dropped in the early 1980s.
 
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RE: Pan Am LGA And LAX Routes

Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:01 pm

Thank you all kindly for your responses.

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