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Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:25 am

Hi All,

I hate to bother you all with a rumour, but I keep hearing this and I would love it confirmed with some details if possible...

I have heard that EK has had another in-flight shutdown and has made a diversion into SIN. Equipment type being either an A380 or 777 of course. Can anyone confirm this and shoot me some details if possible...

Many Thanks,

Will.......
 
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:45 am

Nothing appears to have diverted, but there was 2 scheduled arrivals within the last hour being a 77W and a A380. Unless it happened close to Singapore so they continued?
 
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:06 am

I was looking on SIN airport websites arrivals Last night and happened to see EK413 (AKL-SYD-DXB) expected to land in SIN at 02:20am 18th January. Don't know what the reason for diversion was though.
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:54 am

There is a bit of a mess up with an A380 at the moment as the AKL-SYD diverted to Melbourne last night due to weather and hence missed the curfew. That aircraft ferried MEL-SYD late this afternoon (probably due to crew rest) so its nearly a day behind schedule.
 
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:09 pm

Not quite sure of this instance, but the EK413 on AKL-SYD-DXB has earlier also left SYD with less than required trip fuel to DXB, in order to escape from the SYD curfew. It would instead either plan a tech stop at SIN or, if fuel level permits fly direct to CMB for re-fuel.
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:32 pm

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 2):
Don't know what the reason for diversion was though.

SYD was experiencing temps of 45C in recent days. That level of heat creates density altitude problems for many aircraft. That any aircraft from SYD to a long distance destination make a tech fuel stop would only be exercising safe operations principles.
 
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:39 pm

Quoting airbusa322 (Reply 3):
There is a bit of a mess up with an A380 at the moment as the AKL-SYD diverted to Melbourne last night due to weather and hence missed the curfew. That aircraft ferried MEL-SYD late this afternoon (probably due to crew rest) so its nearly a day behind schedule.

another reason I don't understand why airlines fight over each other to fly into Sydney, when Melbourne has no curfew. How on earth can an airport serving a city the size of sydney, still have a curfew on an airport.

Oh well I guess it shows what political bickering will do in a very unionised state.

What is there actually to see in Sydney apart from a bridge anyway?
 
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:53 pm

Quoting strangr (Reply 6):
How on earth can an airport serving a city the size of sydney, still have a curfew on an airport.

*Cough* LHR *cough*
 
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:08 pm

Quoting unityofsaints (Reply 7):
*Cough* LHR *cough*

Bad cough there,might need a good cough bottle!!!
 
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:20 pm

Quoting strangr (Reply 6):

Perhaps because it's the country's financial centre, largest city and main gateway for overseas tourists. Melbourne is nice, but hardly as well-known abroad or iconic in the eyes of international travellers as Sydney.
 
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:58 pm

Quoting unityofsaints (Reply 7):

Quoting strangr (Reply 6):
How on earth can an airport serving a city the size of sydney, still have a curfew on an airport.

*Cough* LHR *cough*

"Cough FRA Cough"

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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:02 am

Typical non-Sydney-sider
 
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:02 am

Quoting strangr (Reply 6):
How on earth can an airport serving a city the size of sydney, still have a curfew on an airport.

There are a LOT of airports serving very large and important cities that cannot operate 24 / 7

AMS, FCO, MXP, YUL, YYZ, BOS, MAN from memory all operate with curfews. Im not sure the details beyond that as to whether they are as strict as SYD, but the points stands.

Im also not disagreeing with you, just pointing it out. And as someone who lives in the flight path, I wouldn't mind an A380 or 787 landing over me after 11. You can barely hear the things! An A320 climbing out at 6 am is much less pleasant.
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:18 am

Quoting strangr (Reply 6):
another reason I don't understand why airlines fight over each other to fly into Sydney, when Melbourne has no curfew. How on earth can an airport serving a city the size of sydney, still have a curfew on an airport.

Oh well I guess it shows what political bickering will do in a very unionised state.

What is there actually to see in Sydney apart from a bridge anyway?

Because when you fly into Melbourne you're flying over cows and farms and when you fly into Sydney you're flying over civilisation !
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:20 am

Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 12):
AMS, FCO, MXP, YUL, YYZ, BOS, MAN from memory all operate with curfews. Im not sure the details beyond that as to whether they are as strict as SYD, but the points stands.

You learn a new thing everyday... I wasn't aware AMS operate with a curfew considering the amount of runways available to prevent aircraft from over flying residential properties...

Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 12):
Im also not disagreeing with you, just pointing it out. And as someone who lives in the flight path, I wouldn't mind an A380 or 787 landing over me after 11. You can barely hear the things! An A320 climbing out at 6 am is much less pleasant.

        

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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:55 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 10):
"Cough FRA Cough"

FRA doesn't have a cough, FRA has pneumonia.....   
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:14 am

BOS does not have a curfew, but lga does between midnight and 6am during the summer months.
 
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:16 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 14):
I wasn't aware AMS operate with a curfew

Don't quote me but I think it may only be for takeoffs. Something like 22:00 - 04:00. Don't have a source at hand though.
There is a list floating around somewhere.
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:27 am

Quoting N757ST (Reply 16):
BOS does not have a curfew, but lga does between midnight and 6am during the summer months.

Only stage 3 aircraft after a certain time into BOS I thought. This is obviously not as restrictive as LHR, SYD and FRA, but would potentially have an impact on freight operations I would think?

Correct me if that information is out of date.
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:30 am

Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 17):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 14):
I wasn't aware AMS operate with a curfew

Don't quote me but I think it may only be for takeoffs. Something like 22:00 - 04:00. Don't have a source at hand though.
There is a list floating around somewhere.

I've done a quick search & I stumbled across this link http://www.boeing.com/commercial/noise/updates.html

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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:38 am

AMS has no night cerfew. They do have 'night slots' though. I know some freighers operate through AMS 24/7.
 
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:39 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 19):
I've done a quick search & I stumbled across this link http://www.boeing.com/commercial/noi....html

Yeah thats the one!   
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:44 am

Quoting 76er (Reply 20):
AMS has no night cerfew. They do have 'night slots' though. I know some freighers operate through AMS 24/7.


From the linked page above.

AIRPORT CURFEWS6. RESTRICTIONS FOR CHAPTER 2 AND MARGINAL CHAPTER 3 AIRCRAFT
Take-off and landing is not allowed for aircraft which are certified in accordance with the noise standards of ICAO Annex 16 Chapter 2. Aircraft certified in accordance with the noise standards of ICAO Annex 16 Chapter 3, for which the margin of the sum of the three certification noise levels, relative to the sum of the three applicable ICAO Annex 16 Chapter 3 certification noise limits, is less than 5 EPNdB:

1. For aircraft equipped with engines with bypass ratio 3, it is not allowed to plan take-off between 2200-0500 (2100-0400).

Hope this helps clarify  
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:08 am

Quoting Will (Thread starter):
Hi All,

I hate to bother you all with a rumour, but I keep hearing this and I would love it confirmed with some details if possible...

I have heard that EK has had another in-flight shutdown and has made a diversion into SIN. Equipment type being either an A380 or 777 of course. Can anyone confirm this and shoot me some details if possible...

Many Thanks,



Will,

I was on this flight EK413 SYD-DXB on Jan 17th and may be 3 hours into the flight, captain came on PA and announced due to technical issues flight is being diverted to SIN and nothing much of details was offered. One thing you could notice on board was that cabin lights could not be dimmed, sometimes lights would flicker and may be some air flows issues. These could be nothing to do with actual issue but my own observation.

Will try to write a up report, as it turned out to be quite a long journey I have taken!
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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:43 am

Quoting blrBird (Reply 23):
I was on this flight EK413 SYD-DXB on Jan 17th and may be 3 hours into the flight, captain came on PA and announced due to technical issues flight is being diverted to SIN and nothing much of details was offered. One thing you could notice on board was that cabin lights could not be dimmed, sometimes lights would flicker and may be some air flows issues. These could be nothing to do with actual issue but my own observation.

About 3 years ago I was on an EK 773ER which experienced similar problems, although on the ground at SIN. The A/C was ground power started and despite various attempts to force the bleed air (?) to start (including some quite dramatic engine runs) they couldn't fix it. During a few failed departures the lights flickered and A/C stopped. Speaking as a seasoned flyer it was quite scary.

3 hours later they de-planed because it was about to become a riot. On the plus side I got a free night in SIN Shangri La  

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RE: Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..

Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:16 pm

Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 18):

That could be, though FedEx flies a bunch of dc10s in there at all hours. My aircraft is stage 3 comliant so I wouldn't be affected.

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