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The 707 "Dreamliner" Flies In Miami Photo!

Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:16 pm

While all the controversy and hype rages around the 787's troubles, the aviation fans at MIA have been treated with this special bird "Dreamliner" analog.

This ex Qantas bird has been captured at MIA for the last couple of years as she got refurbished. The new color scheme it received has made it quite a star!

Seen on Nov. 26th 2012 at MIA.


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Captured in glorious flight by Joe Pries! Seen at the point of rotation! A dynamic shot that has been the chase of many, captured perfectly by Joe. I thought you guys would get a kick out of it!
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Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:23 pm

It took off right in front of me yesturday.I almost pulled aside to take pictures, but it was impossible. It was quite a sight nevertheless. Beauty at its best.
 
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Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:26 pm

Quoting eksath (Thread starter):
Captured in glorious flight by Joe Pries! Seen at the point of rotation! A dynamic shot that has been the chase of many, captured perfectly by Joe. I thought you guys would get a kick out of it!

Beautiful to see it in the air!

I first found out about this aircraft from the page "V-JET#1 and Her Sisters" - http://www.707.adastron.com/

Of the 13 Qantas 707-138Bs, 3 are still either flying or flyable, and one still exists but in a probably derelict condition -

http://www.707.adastron.com/qantas/where.htm

The three in flying condition are the Boeing colours one above, John Travolta's, and the one that they restored and flew back to Australia in 2007.

Actually the restoration of this aircraft is covered in a great amount of detail with loads of pictures in a diary format on the same web site, accessed here. Loads of detail and interesting pics on what it took to get a 707 that hadn't flown for 6 years back into the air and to fly it to Australia. Well worth a read if you haven't read it - it's the Daily Diary Vol. 1, Vol. 2 and Vol. 3 at this link -

http://www.707.adastron.com/qfm/qfm.htm

I am not affiliated with the site, just found it fascinating what these retired mechanics had to do to get VH-EBA back into the air and back "home". Well recommended!
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:28 am

Over many years of my life, I have seen so many older airliners ferry out of S. Florida after extensive work, only to see them wind up in third world nations, especially Africa. The sad reality is, many of these aircraft wind up in countries with unstable governments and when they change hands, many of the former leaders either flee the country, or they meet a worse fate! Lets hope this beautiful 707 is not going on a one-way flight to the Congo.
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:45 am

Belongs or belonged to the Congo Democratic Republic...
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:25 am

Quoting crownvic (Reply 3):
Lets hope this beautiful 707 is not going on a one-way flight to the Congo.
Quoting mingocr83 (Reply 4):
Belongs or belonged to the Congo Democratic Republic...

That is funny! ^^


I wonder, if someone puts to much money in such an old airframe and refurbish it, why don't they install new CFM56 engines?
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:30 am

Quoting CARST (Reply 5):
I wonder, if someone puts to much money in such an old airframe and refurbish it, why don't they install new CFM56 engines?

Because they look ugly on a 707  
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:35 am

Look's Beautiful. So what Is this aircraft to be used for? To me, it appears it would be a great airshow demonstrator showing off Boeing's history. Imagine a line of all 7x7 models in the same livery.   
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:12 am

I used to be involved in the handling of this Old Gal back in the mid-70s when she was Lakers G-AWDG (Or "Dirty Gertie" as she was fondly known   ) Their then fleet of 2 707-138s were kept very busy on a mixture of European ITs and trans-Atlantic charters (and the Caribbean schedule) and I remember them as being pretty reliable workhorses. Good to see her still active  
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:16 am

What a beautiful aircraft ! I remember seeing the Qantas VJet on take off from LHR as a boy. In those days she was a very big and impressive machine - especially when you are 10.
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RE: The 707 "Dreamliner" Flies In Miami Photo!

Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:22 am

Quoting CARST (Reply 5):
I wonder, if someone puts to much money in such an old airframe and refurbish it, why don't they install new CFM56 engines?
Quoting columba (Reply 6):
Because they look ugly on a 707

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Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:03 am

The livery doesn't seem as detailed as on Boeing's scheme, I don't see several shades of blue, nice nonetheless.
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:11 am

I was but a lad when I worked on the B707- 138s at Qantas.
They only had L1049Gs when I started my apprenticeship plus a few DC4s.
The introduction of the B 707-138 was a real change of style.

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Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:37 am

It probably has lead-acid batteries. That work.
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RE: The 707 "Dreamliner" Flies In Miami Photo!

Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:46 am

Quoting CARST (Reply 5):
why don't they install new CFM56 engines?

They are not certified on a -100.
This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:50 pm

First, some recent history. The current leader of Congo has vowed to keep this 707 as the head of state aircraft because his father was shot on the tarmac and dragged back onboard where he expired. His blood is in the aircraft including the carpet which was apparently carpeted over, not replaced (a Congolese version of Jackie Kennedy not changing her dress after her husband's assassination - you will recall the scene aboard a different head of state 707 where she still has Kennedy's bloody handprints on her clothes as his successor is sworn in).

But it's proving expensive as the Congolese 707 is in terrible condition. Even after a multi-million dollar heavy check, she cannot be delivered to Congo yet - four test flights all abandoned. The first was over a year ago and by the time they got back, the FE's panel was lit up like a Xmas tree. A year of repairs and recently there have been three more aborted flights. On the first, an aircon pipe blew and the aircraft decompressed, emergency descent and landing. Next attempt only got as far as the taxiway before the antiskid system failed and a tire blew. Most recent flight ended prematurely after an engine failed / had to be shutdown.

There is a plan to deliver her via S America but more sqwawks to be fixed and a successful test flight must be completed first. Meanwhile the MRO in Miami will continue their game of whack-a-mole.

In my opinion she's just too old and too cranky to serve as a reliable transport, especially in a hostile environment like Kinshasa. At some point the race is run and I think that time has come.

Btw her superficial condition is excellent, interior very modern, APU (very rare on a 707) is new, engines cockpit and exterior all look great. She's just really really old. 
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:02 pm

The sad reality is the oldest, cheapest aircraft go to the poorest/most unstable countries. The African aviation system is full of end-of-useful-life aircraft which are CHEAP. To many airlines in Africa, an airplane of any type is as good or acceptable as a brand new 777. The passengers know no better.
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:23 pm

Quoting a320fan (Reply 7):
Look's Beautiful. So what Is this aircraft to be used for? To me, it appears it would be a great airshow demonstrator showing off Boeing's history. Imagine a line of all 7x7 models in the same livery.

Would love to see it on a 727! 
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:50 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 15):
Btw her superficial condition is excellent, interior very modern, APU (very rare on a 707) is new, engines cockpit and exterior all look great. She's just really really old.

Was this APU factory-installed, or was it added at a later date?
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:02 pm

That is a terrible rendition of the Boeing colors! The blue doesn't blend, nor is it smooth, and the 707 titles are the wrong font. Terrible.
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:40 pm

The rumor on the street is that her last full day at MIA was today.  
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Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:14 am

Quoting warden145 (Reply 18):
Was this APU factory-installed, or was it added at a later date?

Only military B-707s had factory nstalled APUs. All airliners had no APU, but some were later added. Boeing's first commerical airplane type with factory APU was the B-727.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:19 am

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 19):
That is a terrible rendition of the Boeing colors! The blue doesn't blend, nor is it smooth, and the 707 titles are the wrong font. Terrible.

I think it gets A+ for creativity but C- for execution (esp. the Earl Scheibs paint job)
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:27 am

Quoting PanAmPaul (Reply 22):
I think it gets A+ for creativity but C- for execution (esp. the Earl Scheibs paint job)

You would think that you could get someone at Boeing to give you a good deal on the real deal paint job in exchange for using the plane in a marketing shoot.
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Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:13 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 21):
Only military B-707s had factory nstalled APUs. All airliners had no APU, but some were later added. Boeing's first commerical airplane type with factory APU was the B-727.

That's what I thought, but when I saw the APU mentioned, I thought that maybe QANTAS special-ordered them, particularly given how different the -138 is from the rest of the -120's...

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Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:38 am

Quoting eksath (Reply 20):
The rumor on the street is that her last full day at MIA was today.

She departed at approx 1200H on Saturday, Jan 26th. She used 9 and gave the photographers there a wonderful final view.

It appears she has already reached her final destination safely too!
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:28 am

Such a beautiful aircraft. I have actually never seen a 707 in person but it is a beautiful piece of machinery. Hopefully this aircraft will have a looooong life and hopefully will be kept up nicely.
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:46 am

Quoting warden145 (Reply 24):
That's what I thought, but when I saw the APU mentioned, I thought that maybe QANTAS special-ordered them, particularly given how different the -138 is from the rest of the -120's...

I think Qantas had APUs on their birds because of their stops in Fiji where they had minimal facilities in the good old days. I know their first one, VH-XBA, has an APU, per this story of her restoration.
 
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:25 am

Quoting LH707330 (Reply 27):
I think Qantas had APUs on their birds because of their stops in Fiji where they had minimal facilities in the good old days. I know their first one, VH-XBA, has an APU, per this story of her restoration.

No. Qantas didn't have an APU in their aircraft. The APU on VH-XBA was added at a later time, probably upon VIP conversion.
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:45 pm

Quoting eksath (Reply 25):
She departed at approx 1200H on Saturday, Jan 26th. She used 9 and gave the photographers there a wonderful final view.

It appears she has already reached her final destination safely too!

I was driving west on 836 when I saw a 4-holer taking off towards me. It was way too small for a 747 or a A340. I quickly realized it was the 707, and I had to take a triple look just to make sure that my eyes weren't deceiving me. What a pleasant surprise seeing her take off!

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