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Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:33 pm

According to this (link below), Delta appears to be talking to Airbus and Boeing about some 24-30 A320s or 737s; these will be for the existing 'older' models, not the NEO or the MAX....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...ng-on-jet-purchase.html?cmpid=yhoo
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:38 pm

737. I would never see them buying more airbuses.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:45 pm

I wonder if they could be ordering more 737-700s?

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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:49 pm

DL ordered 100 737-900ERs in August 2011, so that might give the 737 a bit of an advantage.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:53 pm

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 2):
I wonder if they could be ordering more 737-700s?

Isn't that why they got the 717s?
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:56 pm

Boeing needs to sell more NGs than Airbus needs to sell OEOs so I see this going to Boeing as well as there are more motivated to keep their production line full before the Eis of the MAX. They better hurry though before FR takes up all the slots.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:56 pm

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 4):

Isn't that why they got the 717s?

Different missions. The initial 700 order was for South American hot and high fields. Maybe they want to expand on that, or some long and thin routes.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:14 am

These will probably be A320s or 737-800s to replace the older MD88s and A320s,which weredelivered starting in the late 1980s.The best deal will probably win the order.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:19 am

So are these to be used aircraft, or new build B-737NGs or A-32XOEOs? If they are for used airplanes, there are plenty of A-32Xs and B-737NGs currently on the market.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:25 am

Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 6):
Different missions. The initial 700 order was for South American hot and high fields. Maybe they want to expand on that, or some long and thin routes.

The large number of A319s should help with short field requirements. Although they won't be spec'd for superstar runway performance like the 73Gs that Delta ordered, the A319 should help.

I'd expect 900ERs with a slight chance of more 73Gs if they are looking at expanding their operations at airports with sort fields.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:29 am

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 9):
Although they won't be spec'd for superstar runway performance like the 73Gs that Delta ordered, the A319 should help.

What did DL spec for superstar runway performance on the -700s? I assume they got the Short Field Performance option.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:34 am

I would guess an order of 738s is coming. I just can't see DL ordering A320s.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:44 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 8):
So are these to be used aircraft, or new build B-737NGs or A-32XOEOs? If they are for used airplanes, there are plenty of A-32Xs and B-737NGs currently on the market.

From what Richard Anderson said, these would be for used, 8-10 years old A320 and 737.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:44 am

Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 6):

It's funny how the 737-700s have made their way through the DL system, not just to S American hot/high fields nor just short runways.

Some 737-700 routes:

Understandable:

ATL-PTY/TGU/BOG/SXM/SJD/MEX
JFK-BOG/MEX(seasonal 2nd flight)

Some surprising, but welcome:

ATL-SNA/CHS(2x daily)/GSO/TUL/DAY/JFK
JFK-TPA/ATL


The rotation of these beautiful birds through the domestic system tells me two things:

A. They have a decent amount of slack in the -700 fleet
B. They have found that the birds are also working well on domestic routes


I really hope this is a -700 order. They are some of the most comfortable planes I've been on and they are the best looking planes in the sky.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:48 am

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 4):
Isn't that why they got the 717s?

No. The 717s are to replace the remaining DC-9s as well as to push some 50 seat regional jets out of the picture.

Considering that DL was originally rumored to be looking at a 200 a/c order at the time they made the 737-900ER order, this is not surprising at all.

I'm leaning towards it being for additional 737s, a mix of 737-700s and 737-800s but the order would also include 20-30 options for either NG or MAX a/c that would probably be used for 739ERs once DL gets enough of them in the fleet to get a feel for how they fit into the fleet.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:06 am

Reading the transcript from the earnings call
I was under the impression that Delta is looking towards the purchase of Used A/C
from the Q&A:
Richard Anderson
"if you look at our wide-body fleet the average age of the wide-body fleet is 13 to 14 years. And on our domestic fleet, we began this year with a significant number of new deliveries. So, we are always working to calibrate the right mix of new deliveries and used deliveries. Given the glut of narrow-bodies coming on the market right now, we think that there is going to be significant opportunities because residual values on eight to ten year old narrow-body airplanes are on a significant downward slide. And we will continue to be with the glut of airplanes there."

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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:18 am

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 13):
Some surprising, but welcome:

ATL-SNA

Not surprising at all given the operating conditions at SNA.

[Edited 2013-01-23 17:19:09]
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:22 am

First of all it sounds like they want used aircraft.

Quoting sparky35805 (Reply 7):
737-800s

IF they did order it would be for more 900's

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 9):
The large number of A319s should help with short field requirements.

IMHO DL does not like the 319s. their operating costs do not stack up well against the MDs and 737s on most mission requirements

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 13):
ATL-PTY

This used to be a 757.....big downgrade actually. this route can easily be done with the 738/9 if the demand was there.

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 13):
A. They have a decent amount of slack in the -700 fleet
B. They have found that the birds are also working well on domestic routes

A & B.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:23 am

Quoting cokepopper (Reply 15):
if you look at our wide-body fleet the average age of the wide-body fleet is 13 to 14 years. And on our domestic fleet, we began this year with a significant number of new deliveries. So, we are always working to calibrate the right mix of new deliveries and used deliveries. Given the glut of narrow-bodies coming on the market right now, we think that there is going to be significant opportunities because residual values on eight to ten year old narrow-body airplanes are on a significant downward slide. And we will continue to be with the glut of airplanes there.

I think all bets are off on this one. DL has a lot more a319/320s than 737s right now, and if they are looking to get used aircraft why not Airbuses? They have the pilots to fly them, experience to run and maintain them, and this doesn't need to be associated with the 737-900er order.

I think that whatever metal DL can get for the best deal will be it; used a320/319s or 737s. DL's business model doesn't care for loyalty per se, only profitability which is why they continue to make money.

Just my 2 cents.

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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:27 am

The used aircraft market is generally a wash - a 2004 era A320-200 averages $26.5 million and a 2004 era 737-800 averages $29 million. For a block as large as DL wants, if they can find a carrier willing to part with that many, they could secure an even better deal.

FR is now said to be getting serious about placing a top-up 737-800 order. Perhaps they're talking to DL about some of their existing frames?
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:31 am

Quoting hhslax2 (Reply 16):
Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 13):
Some surprising, but welcome:

ATL-SNA

Not surprising at all given the operating conditions at SNA.

I thought DL went back to all 757s SNA-ATL?

But yeah, the 73G is an excellent airplane for SNA operations.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:57 am

Quoting panamair (Thread starter):
Delta appears to be talking to Airbus and Boeing about some 24-30 A320s or 737s;

Doesn't DL already have 30 options on the -900ER?
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:00 am

Quoting hhslax2 (Reply 16):

I know, as there are also 757s, the route doesn't really "require" the 73G like some other routes do.

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 20):

I believe it is 3x 757 at the moment, but like JFK-ATL, it is interchanged a decent amount.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:08 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 19):
FR is now said to be getting serious about placing a top-up 737-800 order. Perhaps they're talking to DL about some of their existing frames?

FR's configuration makes such a deal unlikely. Not only would the interiors need to be completely gutted and overhauled, FR has minimum thrust and weight, requiring DL (or FR or the lessor) to buy more from Boeing. Thrust and weight is not generally cheap.

I see DL buying new aircraft. Unless there is a significant block of used sister ships, going to the secondary market is a pain. Look at the difficulties they've had inducting MD-90s in a timely manner.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:20 am

Yesterday during the earnings/analyst call,Anderson specifically mentioned used narrowbody aircraft.
Today this rumor/planted leak/insider info made its way into the headlines.

Either this is a seperate issue, or there is misinterpretation about Anderson's comments.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:05 am

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 9):

The large number of A319s should help with short field requirements. Although they won't be spec'd for superstar runway performance like the 73Gs that Delta ordered, the A319 should help.

I can't remember if the baby 37s have the SFP package, but they do have the 27K CFM-56-7X engine.
The A319s have The older CFM-56-5A2 engine and I think 22K. The 73W has better hot/high and short runway performance.

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 13):
ATL-SNA

757-200 now.

Quoting srbmod (Reply 14):

I'm leaning towards it being for additional 737s, a mix of 737-700s and 737-800s but the order would also include 20-30 options for either NG or MAX a/c that would probably be used for 739ERs once DL gets enough of them in the fleet to get a feel for how they fit into the fleet.

Delta has 30 options on the 739 order.

Quoting cokepopper (Reply 15):
I was under the impression that Delta is looking towards the purchase of Used A/C

yeah, Anderson made it sound like it would be used Aircraft, but this makes it seem like new birds. I personally cant seem them going the used route unless they A) don't care if the have odd balls in the fleet, or B) can find 24-30 sister ships. I just can't see them having say 24 aircraft that all have some little difference....then they are all different to 737-X32 aircraft. (but I could be wrong)

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 17):

IMHO DL does not like the 319s. their operating costs do not stack up well against the MDs and 737s on most mission requirements

The smaller the plane the higher the CASM(normally) but Delta really has enough of that sized plane. 65 A319/73Ws seems like enough.

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 20):
I thought DL went back to all 757s SNA-ATL?

They did. 5x 73W to 3x 752

Quoting B757forever (Reply 21):
Doesn't DL already have 30 options on the -900ER?

yes.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:15 am

The older A320's have the 5A2 powerplant while the A319 has the 5B power plant.

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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:28 am

Quoting sxf24 (Reply 23):
FR's configuration makes such a deal unlikely. Not only would the interiors need to be completely gutted and overhauled...

Would that not be the case whomever they bought from? Even if they were to get two-class birds second-hand from say AA or AS, I would expect DL would want their own interior in them.


We know the 737-900ER order went out at 50% off list. So a new 737-800 would run DL around $45 million. So they'd be paying around 50% more - $15 million - to buy new versus buying used.

Anyone have any idea of what a new cabin and upping the weights and thrust would cost?
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:35 am

Delta has been picking up used aircraft like the MD-90s and Southwest's 717s. They also have picked up recently a couple of Pratt powered 757s. They will not acquire any Rolls Royce power 757s. If the opportunity arises, Delta will pounce on any used aircraft that they feel meets they business objective. I am sure that Delta is fully aware of what is now available as well as what will become available in the foreseeable future. Delta has some aircraft that are reaching the end of their cost effective lifespan and Delta will seek out that certain aircraft they feel will make good business sense to acquire be it Boeing or Airbus. I am sure Delta is looking to acquire more MD-90s and 717s if they can get them for the right price.   

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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:43 am

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 13):
A. They have a decent amount of slack in the -700 fleet

Yup. And your "B" point as well. They don't make money sitting on the ramp.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:58 am

Any chance of them picking up some of the 737-832s that they sold off prior to delivery? I believe that some of them may have ended up with WestJet.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:33 am

The report in the link states the this order will be for new aircraft.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:37 am

Quoting sparky35805 (Reply 31):
The report in the link states the this order will be for new aircraft.
Sparky

The article in the link says new aircraft, but it is based on information from "a person familar with the matter" not an official press release.

The discussion about used aircraft is based on what Anderson said yesterday during the earnings call.

It's very possible both are going on concurrently.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:44 am

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 26):
The older A320's have the 5A2 powerplant while the A319 has the 5B power plant.

according to the fleet book I have the 319s have CFM56-5-A5 (and the 320s have CFM56-5-A1 or CFM56-5-A3s depending on the ship)

No idea why it would be wrong on a Delta document......but it could very well be.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:13 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 27):
Would that not be the case whomever they bought from? Even if they were to get two-class birds second-hand from say AA or AS, I would expect DL would want their own interior in them.


We know the 737-900ER order went out at 50% off list. So a new 737-800 would run DL around $45 million. So they'd be paying around 50% more - $15 million - to buy new versus buying used.

Anyone have any idea of what a new cabin and upping the weights and thrust would cost?

I think FR planes would have greater reconfiguration costs, since bins, labs, galleys, etc would need to be replaced. I would estimate an interior reconfiguration would cost $2 million plus about $1 million for weight and thrust. Adding the time/resources to manage such a project could make new aircraft more attractive.

Regardless, there are not enough used 737NGs n the market for this to work. Plenty of used A320s to lease, but DL prefers to buy.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:42 am

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 10):
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 9):
Although they won't be spec'd for superstar runway performance like the 73Gs that Delta ordered, the A319 should help.

What did DL spec for superstar runway performance on the -700s? I assume they got the Short Field Performance option.

High performance engines and brakes. There is no short field package for the 700
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:49 am

Quoting sxf24 (Reply 34):
I think FR planes would have greater reconfiguration costs, since bins, labs, galleys, etc would need to be replaced. I would estimate an interior reconfiguration would cost $2 million plus about $1 million for weight and thrust. Adding the time/resources to manage such a project could make new aircraft more attractive.

How much did it run ET? Don't they operate a few 738's ( although one sadly crashed ).. I doubt ET would have operated them with the yellow bins,etc..
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:29 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
737. I would never see them buying more airbuses.
Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 11):
I just can't see DL ordering A320s.

*cough* AA *cough*
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:59 am

Quoting scbriml (Reply 37):
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
737. I would never see them buying more airbuses.
Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 11):
I just can't see DL ordering A320s.

*cough* AA *cough*

Just was I was thinking.
 
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:35 am

Quoting chiad (Reply 38):
Quoting scbriml (Reply 37):
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
737. I would never see them buying more airbuses.
Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 11):
I just can't see DL ordering A320s.

*cough* AA *cough*

Just was I was thinking.

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I was wondering if I had a deja vu, because of such childish statements.  

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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:35 am

But as someone mentioned, does Airbus have as many slots of the OEO to fill as Boeing has for the NG? I ask because that might determine pricing flexibility.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:25 pm

DL has clearly demonstrated they'll buy whatever is the cheapest way to get the performance they need. The 717's are clear evidence of that. Because, as Anderson clearly said, a surplus of newish B737NG and A320 on the market they'll buy the cheaper option, or some of both. This is not a matter of preference for one or the other. Both of them give excellent service. Both, assuming the versions can be found in used aircraft the way they need can serve short fields, hot and high or other particular needs of given destinations. Both can easily be refitted to look sufficiently Deltaesque.

Were I to hazard a weak guess I'd probably suspect A320 series only because their pricing is lower at this time, ephemeral taht may be, but DL is a master at market timing. The same may be the case for B737NG any moment. Whichever they buy, or both, they'll certainly want winglets and updated mods to wring as much efficiency as possible from these birds. The cost of the mods can be a big issues, both price and timing, so I'd guess the deciding points apart from price might well be availability of updated aircraft.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:30 pm

Quoting prost (Reply 40):
But as someone mentioned, does Airbus have as many slots of the OEO to fill as Boeing has for the NG?

They don't, and they had a good year for ceo sales in 2012.

Quoting prost (Reply 40):
I ask because that might determine pricing flexibility.

I don't think it would make a scrap of difference. If DL is serious in considering Airbus and Airbus wanted their business, I'm sure they could find the right price.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:35 pm

Not to get off topic but the MD88s are really tired. I have flown 4 in the past month and all them were in bad shape...especially in the bathrooms.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:17 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 43):
Not to get off topic but the MD88s are really tired. I have flown 4 in the past month and all them were in bad shape...especially in the bathrooms.

Maybe this order is intended to start replacing them?
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:31 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 3):

DL ordered 100 737-900ERs in August 2011, so that might give the 737 a bit of an advantage.
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 17):
IF they did order it would be for more 900's
Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 25):
Delta has 30 options on the 739 order.
Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 44):
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 43):
Not to get off topic but the MD88s are really tired. I have flown 4 in the past month and all them were in bad shape...especially in the bathrooms.

Maybe this order is intended to start replacing them?

I bet that it would be the conversion of the 739 options to firm orders. That would give them the ability to retire some more of the older aircraft in their fleet and re-position other aircraft into other roles which as mentioned in an above post, the MD 88 fleet looking a little long in the tooth, although if that were the only reason to replace aircraft half of the world's fleet should be replaced because of a long in the tooth looking interior.
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:05 pm

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 13):

Also CLT gets a -700
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:39 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 43):
Not to get off topic but the MD88s are really tired. I have flown 4 in the past month and all them were in bad shape...especially in the bathrooms.

I've flown three DL MD-88's and one original DL MD-90 since December and I have to disagree with you, I thought both types were in great shape and didn't look too worse for the wear considering their age. I'd say the 75Ns look much more worn and tired, and have for years since DL is flying the wheels off these birds before they retire them.

You can't really judge an aircraft's condition by the shape the lavs are in either, you could be on a brand new aircraft and after a few flights (long-haul in particular), the lavs could be in awful shape...
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:42 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 43):

Not to get off topic but the MD88s are really tired. I have flown 4 in the past month and all them were in bad shape...especially in the bathrooms.

I flew four this week (9107, 927, 933, and 949) and didn't think they were in that bad of shape. Certainly not as bad as some of the 757s and older 320s floating around in the DL fleet.

Seems like the pilot rumor floated on this board a month or so ago might have a little bit of truth behind it after all.
 
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RE: Delta Looking To Order 24-30 A320 Or 737s?

Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:28 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
I would never see them buying more airbuses.

Never say never...If Airbus is willing to offer a sweet deal and take a bunch of 50-seaters,......it's no big deal for Delta since they already have A320s in the fleet....

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 43):
but the MD88s are really tired. I have flown 4 in the past month and all them were in bad shape...especially in the bathrooms.

I was just on two M88s last weekend and they were in great shape - they were the refurbished ones (with 16 First Class seats) so maybe that made a difference....

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