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Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:19 pm

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013...jan/31/af-nigeria-plane-graveyard/

Kinda would be neat to see what's dumped there. One could only imagine the creapy crawlers living in those planes.

Wonder which 747 is abandoned in Kano? Wasn't the Hydro Air one that hit a 'pothole'? I think it was scrapped.
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:15 pm

Aww, why would they do a thing like that?


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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:27 pm

Breaking up the derelict aircraft is all very well but they will need to have the infrastructure in place to deal with the vast amount of scrap metal that will come as a result. Otherwise I can forsee instead of piles of whole planes sitting about the airfields, it'll just be piles of rusting scrap. And I can hardly imagine aircraft scrap metal from Nigeria's hot & muggy climate
commanding the sort of value on the international metal market that old aircraft metal from the dry US boneyards get.
Perhaps they should leave them and arrange a few aviation enthusiat tours around the country to go and see them ! 
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:44 pm

Quoting TC957 (Reply 2):

Breaking up the derelict aircraft is all very well but they will need to have the infrastructure in place to deal with the vast amount of scrap metal that will come as a result. Otherwise I can forsee instead of piles of whole planes sitting about the airfields, it'll just be piles of rusting scrap.

They'll probably do what we do with used cardboard: Load it in a cargo container and ship it to China. Helps with your export statistics too!
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:08 pm

Quoting TC957 (Reply 2):
they will need to have the infrastructure in place to deal with the vast amount of scrap metal that will come as a result.

What does typical happen here? Are there companies that specialize in this field? Does it usually pay for itself or is seen more of a airport cleanup/beautification project?

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 3):
They'll probably do what we do with used cardboard: Load it in a cargo container and ship it to China. Helps with your export statistics too!

That may be the easiest solution to pursue. Did not know this but scrap metal is one of the top three exports from the US to China, so sure, it can help stats.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:49 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21283101

BBC have also picked up on this story.

The B747 can not be ZS-OOS. That was at Lagos, not Kano. Besides it was scrapped between 2007 and 2009.

Perhaps it is an old Kabo Air plane.

Based on the BBC report, and www.airfleets.net, I think that Bellview B737-200 F-GHXK and 5N-BFX and Space World Boeing B737-200 5N-BGA and 5N-BGB are for the chop.

I suspect that the Benin City BAC 111 will also go.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:08 am

IMO, the aircraft in the BBC article looks like Nicon Airways Boeing B737 5N-BEY.

Looks like they are chopping that one already.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:38 am

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 3):
They'll probably do what we do with used cardboard: Load it in a cargo container and ship it to China. Helps with your export statistics too!

Nope:
"The dismantled planes would be transported to a steel company in the north-western Kebbi state for recycling into other industrial products, Mr Omeogu said, Punch reports."
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:38 pm

http://web.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...ane-graveyard/?page=2#article-copy

This article refers to at least 1 Air Nigeria aircraft at Lagos, (Boeing B737 Classic?) and a DC8 freighter.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:44 pm

The Photo index shows DC8-63F 9G-NHA of Cargoplus Aviation at Lagos in 2009.

The caption says that it was impounded in 2004.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:08 pm

I would hate to see what comes flying/crawling out if those planes when they start jarring them with the scrapping claw!
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:39 pm

Picture of DC8 taken from index.


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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:57 pm

No mention yet of the BAC111 graveyard at Benin City.

Other possibles at Lagos include Chrome Air BAC111 5N-UJC, Nigerian Airways Airbus A310 5N-AUF, Fresh Air Boeing B737 5N-BFQ and Allied Air Cargo Boeing B727F 5N-OTI.

However, it is not clear if scrapping has started yet, or if they are still talking about it.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:19 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 12):
No mention yet of the BAC111 graveyard at Benin City.

I counted 17 BAC-111s and a 727-200 there from a few photos..


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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:59 am

The bbc article also referred to a Boeing B737-200 that had been impounded about 8 years ago.

No further details were provided, IMO this sounds like 5N-BFQ or 5N-BEE of ADC Airlines.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:38 pm

What about those E-120s sitting there?
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:36 pm

I have done a bit of digging about the Kabo B747's.

I can find no record of 5N-RRR, 5N-JJJ, 5N-PDP, 5N-PPP or 5N-OOO since 2001.

IMO, 1 or more of these are to be chopped.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:39 pm

Al Jazeera has a really good news segment on this story with an onsite reporter. Take a few minutes to watch the story.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/02/201327164922976277.html
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:44 pm

Quoting klwright69 (Reply 17):
Al Jazeera has a really good news segment on this story with an onsite reporter. Take a few minutes to watch the story.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa....html

That was very good indeed!

I certainly wasn't expecting people to be breaking up the aircraft by hand!
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:52 pm

Yes and they are finally realizing that maybe having decent airport infrastructure makes a difference.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:58 pm

It's ironic that we have a bunch of airplanes rotting in Nigeria while the entire country has had its infrastructure rotting away since the British gave it back to the locals in 1961.
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Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:05 pm

I would love one or two rows of those sets!
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:50 pm

Having watched the Al Jazeera report, I made out the following;

Both Spaceworld aircraft, 5N-BFQ, 5N-BEY. I am re checking the aircraft with the blue band accross the tail and 5N-??Z.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:24 pm

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 13):
I counted 17 BAC-111s and a 727-200 there from a few photos.

Okada Air 1-11s that have previously been reported wfu at Benin included 5N-AXQ (December 97), 5N-AYS (April 05), 5N-AYT (April 05), 5N-EHI (January 05) and 5N-ORO (December 97). They may well b e amongst those in the photo. Another 1-11, 5N-OAL of Oriental Airlines, was reported wfu at LOS in May 96 and their 5N-ENO at Owerri in February 05..

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 16):
I can find no record of 5N-RRR, 5N-JJJ, 5N-PDP, 5N-PPP or 5N-OOO since 2001.

5N-RRR was reported as being derelict and being used for spares at Kano on 16 December 05.

The last report I have seen on 5N-JJJ was on a Hadj flight at JED in January 01.

5N-OOO was also reported on a Hadj flight at JED. That was on 22 January 04, three months before it was also reported at ALG on 24 April.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:14 pm

IMO, the Boeing B737 with the blue band is 5N-BGU.

If 5N-RRR was derelict in 2005, it seems unlikely that it is still there.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:25 pm

Oldest 747 Still In Service? (by GayrugbyMAN Jul 6 2006 in Civil Aviation)

This gives some interesting info about Kabo B747.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:12 am

Has anyone visited Nigeria and see the graveyard?
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:16 pm

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 13):
I counted 17 BAC-111s and a 727-200 there from a few photos..

That has got to be the world's largest collections of 1-11 hulls!

Quoting type-rated (Reply 20):
It's ironic that we have a bunch of airplanes rotting in Nigeria while the entire country has had its infrastructure rotting away since the British gave it back to the locals in 1961.

True. The airport reflects the country, as in so many places.

Quoting klwright69 (Reply 26):
Has anyone visited Nigeria and see the graveyard?

Youtube has videos of arrivals at LOS with the graveyards in full view of the arriving pax. Welcome to LOS.
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:56 am

tHE Al Jazeera item also included a Boeing B737-200 with a blue belly. The reg looks like 5N-SSZ, but I can not find this aircraft.
 
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:24 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 28):
tHE Al Jazeera item also included a Boeing B737-200 with a blue belly. The reg looks like 5N-SSZ, but I can not find this aircraft.

5N-SSZ is an ex-IRS Airlines Fokker 28-4000, c/n 11190, originally delivered to Linjeflyg in Sweden back in November 1982, so slightly older than I am  . Hope I will not be scrapped soon ... Silly jokes aside, does anyone know if IRS still operates Fokker 28-4000 5N-NCZ alongside their five Fokker 100s?
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RE: Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard

Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:37 pm

No it was not an F28, but the image was that clear, so I may have got wrong.