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Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:48 pm

Any info on that? How the dispute with AF has been solved? Thank you.
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:15 pm

ME hasn't abandoned CedarMiles- I am a member and the programme is highly regarded.
It is very efficiently managed and the redemptions can be excellent.
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:29 pm

Quoting raffik (Reply 1):

Yes, i know it is a great program, but i remember AF making pressure on ME to abandon it.
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:32 pm

Quoting Tupolev160 (Reply 2):
Yes, i know it is a great program, but i remember AF making pressure on ME to abandon it.

Yes, they did, but AF/KL changed their minds.
 
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:48 pm

Yep- they didn't abandon it.
I would say that the cedar miles programme is superior to the other airlines- hence why ME did not want to get rid of it.

Is ME the only carrier to keep its own Frequent flier programme in Skyteam?
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:55 pm

Quoting raffik (Reply 4):
Is ME the only carrier to keep its own Frequent flier programme in Skyteam?

All the them have their own frequent flier program except Tarom and KQ , who are both part of Flying Blue.
 
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:55 pm

Quoting raffik (Reply 4):

...and among other airlines that entered an alliance, or that rule is for Skyteam only?
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:57 pm

Quoting raffik (Reply 4):
Is ME the only carrier to keep its own Frequent flier programme in Skyteam?

What do you mean? Doesn't DL, AF etc still have their own programs?
 
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:11 pm

Quoting Polot (Reply 5):
All the them have their own frequent flier program except Tarom and KQ , who are both part of Flying Blue.

FlyingBlue is the common frequent flyer program for 4 SkyTeam members:
Air France, KLM, TAROM and Kenya Airways
It is also the program of some further non-aligned carriers like Aircalin.

All other SkyTeam members have programs of the own.

The only other big example where a lot of airlines within an alliance share a frequent flyer program is Miles & More, which serves:
Lufthansa, Austrian, Swiss, Brussels Airlines, LOT, Croatia Airlines, Adria Airways (all Star Alliance), plus the non-aligned members Luxair and Air Dolomiti.
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:21 pm

So if other Skyteam carriers have their own personalised programmes, why was it an issue for Skyteam to
get ME to discard their own programme? I imagine that there must have been some talk of integration to
allow people to redeem miles on other member airlines? Perhaps this was the issue rather than ME having
to completely abandon their scheme.
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:19 pm

RO used to have their own, but changed over once they become part of SkyTeam. I am not sure if they had to or not, but it is acctually better on Flying Blue for international travel.
 
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:17 am

Gladly ME still have their own program! They award more miles for a given flight than if you put it toward your AF account.

A pity they don't allow children to be members though.
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:04 pm

Just read on their facebook page that they might be starting a summer season Berlin service
Presumably with A320s. Interesting!
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:50 pm

Quoting raffik (Reply 9):
So if other Skyteam carriers have their own personalised programmes, why was it an issue for Skyteam to
get ME to discard their own programme? I imagine that there must have been some talk of integration to
allow people to redeem miles on other member airlines? Perhaps this was the issue rather than ME having
to completely abandon their scheme.

My guess is this is your answer:

Quoting brightcedars (Reply 11):
Gladly ME still have their own program! They award more miles for a given flight than if you put it toward your AF account.

In general, Skyteam frequent flyer programs are not very generous (or in some cases, not anymore). Have a look on FlyerTalk sometime, where AF/KLM's program is decried as Flying Poo and Delta SkyMiles are sometimes referred to as SkyPesos because they are worth a lot less than they used to be before Delta started handing them out like candy to credit card customers and frequent shoppers.

If Cedar Miles really is that attractive, then perhaps other airlines were worried about people jumping ship to MEA's program if it offered a viable, more generous alternative within Skyteam.
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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:54 pm

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 8):
FlyingBlue is the common frequent flyer program for 4 SkyTeam members:
Air France, KLM, TAROM and Kenya Airways

It is for Air Europa too.


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RE: Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?

Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:12 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 14):
It is for Air Europa too.


Dan

I keep forgetting them! Thanks.
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