TC957
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B737ER - Why Not More Sales?

Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:58 pm

With many recent threads on the longest 737 routes, it got me wondering why only ANA has bought just the two 737ER models - does Boeing not formally offer this version to airlines ? I mean off course the 737ER and 738ER, I know the 739ER is doing well.
Is it that the extra fuel tanks takes out the available baggage / cargo space making it unattractive to airlines ?
Just wondering...
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RE: B737ER - Why Not More Sales?

Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:05 pm

Quoting TC957 (Thread starter):
Is it that the extra fuel tanks takes out the available baggage / cargo space making it unattractive to airlines?

A mix of low cargo capacity and high operating costs (on long-haul missions, a fair bit of the fuel burned early in the flight is to ferry the fuel you'll be burning later in the flight).

Therefore, the model really only works in an all-Business Class configuration where you generate high revenue per seat (to cover the high operating cost per seat) and you do not need much cargo space (as you're only carrying a few score of bags).
 
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RE: B737ER - Why Not More Sales?

Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:13 pm

The 900 and the 900ER model have identical fuel capacity (along with every other NG model I have ever seen. I do believe aux tanks are available on the BBJ models). Its a structural difference (in the landing gear if I remember correctly) allowing it to operate at heavier weights. The 800s and 7s are light enough that the structural improvement was never required. I have personally seen a non ER 900 sit wait out for weather at its destination. The aircraft would have been too heavy arriving at its destination carrying extra fuel required for adverse conditions.

I think there is another difference with cabin emergency exits allowing more pax to fly.
 
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RE: B737ER - Why Not More Sales?

Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:22 pm

And I should add I have no clue what the difference is on the ANA models the original poster mentioned.
 
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RE: B737ER - Why Not More Sales?

Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:44 pm

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737family/737-700ER/facts.html says:

Major Changes:
The wings and landing gear of the 737-800
Wing and body strengthening changes
Up to nine optional auxiliary fuel tanks
Optional Blended Winglets
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RE: B737ER - Why Not More Sales?

Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:05 pm

Lots of customers have bought them. It's just that the customers are private customers and the aircraft is called a BBJ.

The 737-700ER is just a BBJ with an airline cabin.

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