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WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:35 pm

Looks as though WS will be announcing their new schedules this coming Monday. Going to be interesting to see if they launch via YYC or YYZ. My gut is that we'll see start out west in their own backyard.

Source: http://www.theprovince.com/business/...uncement+Monday/7928626/story.html
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:25 pm

I think the original plan was to start out west and slowly work their way east. I'm thinking they'll start on routes where a 737 is too much, than expand their network with new routes. Personally I'm hoping they finally start YYC-YXC (Cranbrook) and crack the monopoly that AC has had on that route for years.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:41 pm

Any rumors on Encore transborder flying?
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:25 pm

Quoting Hawaiian763 (Reply 1):
Personally I'm hoping they finally start YYC-YXC (Cranbrook) and crack the monopoly that AC has had on that route for years.

I don't see the YXC - YYC market that lucrative when one looks at AC summer schedule. 2 - 3 BEH a day doesn't constitute a significant opportunity. That's a total of up to 54 seats spread throughout the day and WS DH4 is likely to be configured with at least 74 seats.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:47 pm

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 2):
Any rumors on Encore transborder flying?

I'm anxious to find out the answer to this question as well...

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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:57 pm

Rumour has it their will be 1-2 new US routes, and only about 2-3 new routes in Canada to mid-sized markets. As well as strengthening of the current market out East with the 737's. Saw that over on a different forum.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:06 pm

Quoting flyb (Reply 5):
Saw that over on a different forum.

A forum about skyscrapers by chance?
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:37 pm

Quoting Hawaiian763 (Reply 1):
Personally I'm hoping they finally start YYC-YXC (Cranbrook) and crack the monopoly that AC has had on that route for years.

Don't think the demand exists. Even when YYC-YXC was Canadian and previously Pacific Western and previously Canadian Pacific, it's always been a monopoly as far as I recall. Most people prefer to drive, even though it's almost twice as far by road, but still not much more than a 4-hour drive.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:50 am

Facebook. Ha. They also confirmed YYC - DFW.

[Edited 2013-02-07 17:53:36]
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:00 am

Quoting flyb (Thread starter):

Looks as though WS will be announcing their new schedules this coming Monday. Going to be interesting to see if they launch via YYC or YYZ. My gut is that we'll see start out west in their own backyard.

That is where my money is going, well not literally. I don't think that Encore is going to see eastern Canada until 2014. What with the limited number of aircraft available to them.
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:03 am

So per WS 2 US and 2 new canadian destinations. One new ns between existing markets. All found on their Facebook page along with Dallas announcement.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:13 am

Also from Facebook, looks like YYZ-MYR. I'm betting on it going to the Q400, same as PD. A 737 just feels excessive on this route.
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:18 am

YEG-PHX year round as well
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:20 am

I can't be surprised. I met the guy who manages their network planning and he is very smart. I think he was also the guy who said to Gol to stop flying routes on 767 and focus on what is good.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:31 am

I think Encore will eventually do the US but not right now since its way too fresh.
I would imagine new cities in Washington like GEG and possibly Montana to be potentials and also Utah, Minnesota and other existing routes served by competition. We have alot of Mormons living in this region. But that's for another time of speculation, for now gearing up to see what the big word will be!
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:33 pm

Quoting fidelidade (Reply 13):
I can't be surprised. I met the guy who manages their network planning and he is very smart. I think he was also the guy who said to Gol to stop flying routes on 767 and focus on what is good.

= Jaja. I think I know who you are talking about  . I am surprised WestJet has been able to keep him that long. I know he was close to leaving for one of the Middle Eastern carriers. Smart guy ... though, I must harass him on DFW! Isn't there already too much capacity with 2x on AA? Does the market need a 3rd flight?

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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:52 pm

Well WS is giving a presentation about Encore at the ROUTES conference on Monday in CTG....
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:44 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 15):
= Jaja. I think I know who you are talking about . I am surprised WestJet has been able to keep him that long. I know he was close to leaving for one of the Middle Eastern carriers. Smart guy ... though, I must harass him on DFW! Isn't there already too much capacity with 2x on AA? Does the market need a 3rd flight?

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I think they will do just fine on that route, as many would rather fly WS over AA. Look at YYC-ORD, lots of capacity of that route, and they make it work. However, with AA increasing capacity on the route with a 737-800 it should be interesting. I think both airlines since they codeshare will work on getting connections through YYC more aggresively than before.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:49 pm

Quoting flyb (Reply 10):
So per WS 2 US and 2 new canadian destinations. One new ns between existing markets. All found on their Facebook page along with Dallas announcement.

I will hazard a guess that the 2 new Canadian destinations are in conjunction with the Encore announcement, and that they will be...........Penticton CYYF and Nanaimo CYCD (maybe Fort St. John CYXJ)
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:38 pm

I would wonder if WS would consider DEN?

As of now, DEN will have nonstop flights to 9 Canadian airports (YVR, YEG, YYC, YXE, YQR, YWG, YYZ, YUL and soon the seasonal YMM) and these routes are all *A, with UA on the bulk of the routes and handful of AC flights to YYZ and YUL. Most of these can be more than a couple of flights per day. So there really is no competition on any of these, and I can imagine that UA gets some of its best yields at DEN with these.

So....... would there be any room for WS at DEN?



 
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:09 pm

Quoting Tennisace (Reply 18):
Penticton CYYF and Nanaimo CYCD

neither are very likely. It makes more sense for the to improve on flights to nearby hubs, such as YYJ for YYF, and YLW for YCD. those destinations are just to close to larger 'hubs' to support q400 flights... q100 or B1900 flights, maybe, but not q400
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:48 pm

Quoting YYCSpotter (Reply 20):
neither are very likely

I would have to agree. WS has so many small market airports pandering for flights that I cannot but see a lot of disappointment when the announcement of destinations is made. Some will at a much later stage see WS service;it's just that I see service where it makes the most sense by filling in the holes in significant markets such as YWG to YQR and YXE. YEG-YYC is a pair that could use frequency over excessive B737 capacity.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:41 am

From a comment I just saw on a totally unrelated thread, it seems possible that there might be some mainline route announcements made on Monday, as well as Encore news.

I hope that this is true and that more than one new trans-border mainline route will be revealed. The timing of this big press event is about right for some new summer routes...

  

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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:13 am

Quoting SANFan (Reply 22):

Yes sounds like DFW and one more. Plus year round from seasonal on routes like YEG-pHX
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:51 am

Quoting point2point (Reply 19):
I would wonder if WS would consider DEN?

Unlikely, since DEN is a *A stronghold and well served from YYC already.

Quoting 9252fly (Reply 21):
I would have to agree. WS has so many small market airports pandering for flights that I cannot but see a lot of disappointment when the announcement of destinations is made.

Agreed. This will just be the INITIAL announcement though. There will be many more to come in the the next 2 years as all 20 Q400's are delivered.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 22):
From a comment I just saw on a totally unrelated thread, it seems possible that there might be some mainline route announcements made on Monday

YYC-DFW
YYZ-MYR (Myrtle Beach).
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:07 am

Quoting flyb (Reply 10):
So per WS 2 US and 2 new canadian destinations.
Quoting Tennisace (Reply 18):
.Penticton CYYF and Nanaimo CYCD
Quoting YYCSpotter (Reply 20):
neither are very likely.

As someone else mentioned above, the Westjet Facebook page clearly states that there will be 2 new Canadian destinations announced. I am suggesting they will be Encore cities (CYCD & CYYF) and not new Mainline cities. Where else would WS mainline fly into???? Thoughts.........
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:13 am

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 24):

YYC-DFW
MYR (Myrtle Beach).
DFW for sure, but I don't know about mainline to MYR, that's a lot of capacity for that market. Right now, PD only flies 5x weekly in winter peak, 2x in the fall. It'll be an interesting route to watch, especially if they're announcing it now - this would indicate summer service, when PD doesn't fly the route at all!

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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:52 am

Is there even a logo/livery for Encore yet?
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:56 am

Yep. You will find it on every Westjet aircraft. (Minus the Operated by Encore sticker)

Quoting rj777 (Reply 27):

Is there even a logo/livery for Encore yet?
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:56 pm

I got my fingers crossed for my home airport of Lethbridge YQL hasnt been the same since the Air Canada/Canadian Merger
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:20 pm

Quoting YXD172 (Reply 26):
DFW for sure, but I don't know about mainline to MYR, that's a lot of capacity for that market.

The Westjet facebook page let MYR out of the bag. I agree with you though -- it is a small market and wil likely only be seasonal service with less than daily service.
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:32 pm

Quoting Hawaiian763 (Reply 1):
I think the original plan was to start out west and slowly work their way east. I'm thinking they'll start on routes where a 737 is too much, than expand their network with new routes. Personally I'm hoping they finally start YYC-YXC (Cranbrook) and crack the monopoly that AC has had on that route for years.

What monopoly? AC Jazz flies 3x daily and so does Pacific Coastal.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:41 pm

I expect Vancouver-Kamloops-Calgary to be operated by WestJet Encore.
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:37 pm

I'm holding out hope for YXE-YWG nonstop.   

Quoting point2point (Reply 19):
As of now, DEN will have nonstop flights to 9 Canadian airports

How much O&D traffic does DEN see on those routes? I would imagine a considerable portion of those PAX go there for connection purposes.
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:14 pm

I guess the likelyhood of RDU is low? How about the DCmetro?
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:18 pm

Quoting ajhYXE (Reply 33):
How much O&D traffic does DEN see on those routes?

I'm able to find pax per day info listed between DEN and: YYZ - 253, YYC - 167, YVR - 150, YUL - 82, YEG - 73, YWG - 40, (YOW - 25), both YXE/YQR - 15, (YHZ - 11, YYJ - 10, YQB - 8, YLW - 5, YYT - 3, YXU - 2), YMM - 2.

Okay, maybe YYZ, YYC and YVR may have a chance if seasonal and less than daily, as WS can do with stations that it has? Also, DEN-Canada flights are fared quite high I believe..... possibly WS could stimulate demand with some lower prices?


 
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:31 am

I expect WS to add YQL as a destination. Besides YQL, it's anyone's guess in my opinion. Maybe Fort St. John? Prince Albert?
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:16 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 16):
Well WS is giving a presentation about Encore at the ROUTES conference on Monday in CTG....

= Do you know who is speaking at Routes?

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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:33 am

From airlineroute.net

Update at 0210GMT 11FEB13

As per 11FEB13 GDS timetable and inventory display, WestJet reveals planned new routes as well as operational routes for its regional turboprop unit “ENCORE”. Reservations for these new routes are now open since 10FEB13, and the airline is expected to make the announcement as early as 11FEB13.

NEW WESTJET Mainline Routes
Calgary – Dallas/Ft. Worth eff 29APR13 NEW 1 daily service
WS1554 YYC1025 – 1458DFW 73W D
WS1555 DFW1545 – 1829YYC 73W D

Toronto – Myrtle Beach eff 02MAY13 NEW 2 weekly service
WS1154 YYZ0930 – 1135MYR 73W 47
WS1155 MYR1220 – 1414YYZ 73W 47

WestJet Encore
WestJet Encore begins operation from 24JUN13, and will be further expanded from 15AUG13, with a fleet of 78-seater Dash8-Q400 aircraft.

Calgary – Edmonton eff 15AUG13 1 of 7 daily service replace Mainline operation
WS3252 YYC1220 – 1311YEG DH4 D
WS3253 YEG1715 – 1803YYC DH4 D

From 15SEP13, overall service increases from 7 to 9 daily, with 4 of 9 daily operated by Encore
WS3250 YYC0600 – 0651YEG DH4 D
WS3252 YYC1220 – 1311YEG DH4 D
WS3268 YYC1450 – 1541YEG DH4 D
WS3291 YYC1745 – 1836YEG DH4 D

WS3251 YEG1050 – 1138YYC DH4 D
WS3273 YEG1615 – 1703YYC DH4 D
WS3253 YEG1715 – 1803YYC DH4 D
WS3292 YEG2245 – 2333YYC DH4 D

Calgary – Fort St. John eff 24JUN13 NEW WestJet service
WS3101 YYC1600 – 1639YXJ DH4 D
WS3100 YXJ1030 – 1300YYC DH4 D

Calgary – Grande Prairie eff 15AUG13 NEW 1 daily nonstop service
WS3248 YYC2030 – 2154YQU DH4 D
WS3249 YQU0600 – 0717YYC DH4 D (eff 16AUG13)

Calgary – Nanaimo eff 24JUN13 NEW WestJet service
WS3109 YYC1100 – 1143YCD DH4 D
WS3108 YCD1230 – 1457YYC DH4 D

Schedule varies after 15SEP13

Calgary – Regina eff 15AUG13 1 of 4 daily service replace Mainline operation
WS3296 YYC0815 – 0943YQR DH4 D
WS3289 YQR1015 – 1148YYC DH4 D

Calgary – Saskatoon eff 24JUN13 Overall service increases from 4 to 5 daily
WS3241 YYC1650 – 1805YXE DH4 D
WS3246 YXE1835 – 1953YYC DH4 D

Edmonton – Grande Prairie eff 15AUG13 1 of 2 daily service replace Mainline operation
WS3252 YEG1345 – 1451YQU DH4 D
WS3253 YQU1530 – 1632YEG DH4 D

Vancouver – Fort St. John eff 24JUN13 NEW WestJet service
WS3102 YVR0815 – 0959YXJ DH4 D (eff 25JUN13)
WS3103 YXJ1710 – 1855YVR DH4 D

Vancouver – Victoria eff 24JUN13 NEW WestJet service
WS3103 YVR1925 – 1955YYJ DH4 D
WS3102 YYJ0715 – 0744YVR DH4 D (eff 25JUN13)

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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:50 am

Quoting flyb (Reply 38):
WestJet reveals planned new routes

I'm sure the WS media folks will be none to pleased to have this information out before they had a chance to have a launch event in the coming days. Looking through the initial routes for the start-up division,I must say they seem well thought out and I'm impressed. It's no surprise that they chose to launch services in the western part of the country considering that PD and AC are already in a dogfight in the east.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:06 am

I was really hoping YYC-SEA and YVR-SEA would be on the list.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:19 am

Quoting 9252fly (Reply 39):

It's no surprise that they chose to launch services in the western part of the country considering that PD and AC are already in a dogfight in the east.

Well, it is a bit of a surprise to me since I was convinced of their urgent need on the YYZ-LGA route.
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:47 am

So one of the Q400's is going to go from YYC-YXJ change flt # and fly YXJ-YVR-YYJ, remaing overnight then fly YYJ-YVR-YXJ change flt# and fly YXJ-YYC.
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:56 am

According to Flightaware a Bombardier Q400 demo plane flew into YYC on Sunday and Monday will fly YYC-YXJ-YCD.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BBA5


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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:42 pm

As I predicted, Fort St. John was added. However, I'm veeeeeery surprised YQL wasn't on that list.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:50 pm

Well, I take it back, I guess that they do see demand for a 737 to MYR. Increased use on YEG-YYC isn't much of a surprise, but YXJ-YYC definitely is to me! No service there at all currently, not even CMA.
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:29 pm

Quoting YXD172 (Reply 45):
Increased use on YEG-YYC isn't much of a surprise, but YXJ-YYC definitely is to me! No service there at all currently, not even CMA.

9M has a daily flight YYC-YEG-YXJ-YYE and return.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:09 pm

Will the Q400s have personal IFE? I'm guessing not as it's not normally installed on the Q400 planes.
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:18 pm

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 47):

I doubt it was none of WS new aircraft do, as they are looking for a new IFE solution. Tablets are the current solution.
 
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RE: WestJet Encore Announcement Feb 11

Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:11 pm

Quoting 9252fly (Reply 46):

9M has a daily flight YYC-YEG-YXJ-YYE and return.

Oops, I didn't realize that flight originated in YYC. It'll be interesting to see what happens to 9M then.
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