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New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:52 am

Welcome to thread #124, in 123 New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 123 (by SA7700 Jan 1 2013 in Civil Aviation) we learnt and discussed:

- JQ and international - domestic connections
- NZ and the chances of flying to small places like Picton, Stewart Island with a fleet of otters
- Air Chathams
- Q300/ATR schedules
- NZ B733/A320 schedules
- NZ new livery paint schedule
- ATRs on WLG-AKL when the 737s are retired?
- Could NZ be a launch customer for the proposed 90 seat ATR?
- TransAsia considering New Zealand services
- Ex Air Nelson GM goes to JQ
- AKL domestic getting.......another revamp
- NZ Q300 crash landing at BHE in 2011 report released
- NZ Y+ customer benefits
- Commerce Comminsion looking into NZs credit card fees
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:18 am

Continue from last thread, the NZ 77W seats are not that bad as long as you are not in an aisle seat, the difference between the 77W and 77E is hardly noticeable (except for the IFE) from a window seat. I would still choose a 10 across NZ 77E over the shell seats CX has on their 343. But then NZ would very likely put the 789 on AKL-HKG, so the product would definitely be better than CX until the 359 come.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:34 am

Suprised no one has mentioned that Grant Kerr, the GM of Air Nelson has left to take up a role as CEO of Jetstar NZ
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:35 am

From the last thread:

"Apparently not bookable yet; but it'll operate every Tuesday between the end of October and the end of March."

So - if I've got it right - it isn't year round yet, it isn't flying now, it will become year round after this winter season?

Thanks.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:29 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 3):

I think that's the deal - once it restarts over our winter, it'll just continue over our summer too. Sorry, can't post the link here (would have done so above if that was allowed) but if you know what site has all this route/GDS info, you'll find it there.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:44 am

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 2):

Yes that was discussed in the previous thread and was covered in the last thread catch up in my opening post.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:32 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 5):

My mistake

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...3008/Ban-Muslim-men-from-planes-MP

This has probably got more to do with politics than aviation, but the link is still there. I cannot imagine what NZ as a country will be like if this douche got his way with who can who can't fly
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:05 am

Hi any info available on today's NZ99?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:34 am

Quoting bonzolab (Reply 13):
Hi any info available on today's NZ99?

We were told it was cancelled due to a volcano erupting either in Japan or enroute.

[Edited 2013-02-11 21:27:03]
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:35 am

''Wellington Airport is 'charging too much' - commission''

Wellington Airport is making too much money for the services it offers, according to the Commerce Commission.

A report from the commission says a reasonable return for the airport is between 7.1% and 8%, but its analysis shows over the next five years Wellington Airport's expected to make up to 15.2%.

This means it is likely to recover between $38 and $69 million more from consumers than it says is reasonable.

http://tvnz.co.nz/business-news/well...arging-too-much-commission-5337102
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:35 am

Just wondering if anyone knows what the load factors are like on SQ298 out of CHC? Is there any online data available? Thanks
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:12 am

Quoting WSTAKL (Reply 16):

Just wondering if anyone knows what the load factors are like on SQ298 out of CHC? Is there any online data available? Thanks

SQ are operating to CHC daily all year round now, this suggests they are fairly happy with the load factors.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:28 am

According to FR24 QF27 SYD-SCL is currently on approach to CHC.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:54 am

Quoting WSTAKL (Reply 18):
According to FR24 QF27 SYD-SCL is currently on approach to CHC.

Must be a medical or technical diversion. The aircraft was to the east of Dunedin when it showed up on FR24 heading back towards CHC.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:11 pm

Quoting CHCalfonzo (Reply 19):
Must be a medical or technical diversion. The aircraft was to the east of Dunedin when it showed up on FR24 heading back towards CHC.

Yes it was a medical .
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:23 pm

Looks like NZ is sending the 772 back on AKL-PPT.. The Monday flight will be a 772. Too late for K'man though I think..
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:42 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 20):
muslim women wearing full face covering clothing shouldn't be allowed to fly I would agree with him

They are subject to the same screening as you and if they refuse then they are offloaded..... Face/Name Passport check downstairs, face/passport check by customs and then another face/name/boarding pass check at the gate. , I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to where what they like/feel comfortable in any more than those who choose to wear what is basically beach/sleeping attire can wear what they like, even if I personally think that both ridiculous and unsafe and think they should have to wear smart casual attire..as if they were going to a restaurant, not PJs or Jandals.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
Looks like NZ is sending the 772 back on AKL-PPT

has been on and off for a while..
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:41 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
Looks like NZ is sending the 772 back on AKL-PPT.. The Monday flight will be a 772. Too late for K'man though I think..

I've got into the habit of getting to PPT on Hawaiian Airlines, via Honolulu, either stand-alone or on the way back from the US mainland. Haven't done it on NZ for almost a year, and even when I did, I flew into PPT on Hawaiian and out to AKL on Air NZ.

The Business Class fares Australia-Tahiti on NZ remain competitive, but for me there are two deal-breakers:

1) Airpoints earning in Business Class is now derisory, although Status Points accrual is still fine.

2) The codeshare USA-Australia fares with a PPT stop on Air NZ are not viable. The fare levels are 50% higher than Trans-Pacific fares without a stopover, and whereas the "journey" concept used to mean that Airpoints and Status Credits were earned in both directions, now there is no recognition of the codeshared LAX-PPT sector.

I find it rather sad, to be honest. And anyway, the 777 needed to be on LAX-PPT, not PPT-AKL. That's where the volumes and the yields were and still are.

As I always used to write, they should have coordinated schedules between:

a 77E flying AKL-LAX-PPT-LAX-AKL
an A320 or 763 flying AKL-PPT-AKL.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:43 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 34):
You try sitting behind someone from Moscow to Vladivostok with an upset dog, it started whimpering and howling from take-off to landing, I wasn't the only person who would have happily strangled it.

In a long life-time of flying I think the times I've encountered a lapdog on a plane can be counted on the fingers of one hand and none of them were a problem.

As I tried to point out, I've had other misadventures on flights and none go them involved dogs or veiled women. I did get trapped by an over-zealous, bible bashing American woman who wanted me to embrace born-again on the plane. So I told her I'm unrepentently gay and she asked to change seats.

I'm sure many of us have "unfortunate other passenger" stories, but I'm not sure I'd want to live in your over-regulated world.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:04 am

Well, my Air NZ mole (in sales, not strategy) thinks that there will be a dual model long-haul.

China and Japan will have a Jetstar International model (LCC plus Business recliners) while North America will "grow". Whatever that means.

Personally, I'd have liked to see the 789 used to make SFO, YVR and Houston daily, while either extending NZ5/6 from LAX to Manchester or NZ7/8 from SFO to Heathrow.

But the plan still seems to be to install a high-density configuration with China and Japan in mind.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:13 am

Quoting koruman (Reply 45):
China and Japan will have a Jetstar International model (LCC plus Business recliners) while North America will "grow". Whatever that means.

If that was really the case, that would mean dual configuration to the same aircraft type? Would that really be a good idea for aircraft usage and rotation? 767 won't stay long so I can't see how that will work.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:30 am

Beyond Australia made sense.

Half a decade ago.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:56 am

Please keep this thread on topic and not turn it into an anti muslim thread. I've just deleted over 20 replys due to replys being off topic and political. These threads are a fantastic way to discuss New Zealand aviation movements, NZ, JQ, QF, EK etc etc etc ops in NZL so lets keep it that way.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:31 am

Quoting koruman (Reply 21):
Beyond Australia made sense.

Half a decade ago.

I think it makes sense now, K'man, it's just that we - you and I - have diametrically different views of it.

You want the high-concept glitzy routes to the glam cities with snazzy widebodies. That's fine and I mostly leave all that to you.

I'm a workhorse. I am interested in the almost completely ignored (by Aussie airlines) routes to "nearer Asia" - and probably with the A320.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:29 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 23):
I'm a workhorse. I am interested in the almost completely ignored (by Aussie airlines) routes to "nearer Asia" - and probably with the A320.

Indonesia? Philippines? That could be a very interesting option though I believe the Indonesians had a hostile view of the Virgin operations to their country for a while because of their use of PacBlue NZ aircraft and crews, for some convoluted offence New Zealand had caused (hence the few aircraft with 'Airline of Virgin Blue' that operated for a while).

Not sure if that was specific to Virgin or a broader swipe at New Zealand, and whether the mood had since changed.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:20 pm

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 24):
Indonesia? Philippines? That could be a very interesting option though I believe the Indonesians had a hostile view of the Virgin operations to their country for a while because of their use of PacBlue NZ aircraft and crews, for some convoluted offence New Zealand had caused (hence the few aircraft with 'Airline of Virgin Blue' that operated for a while).

Sure, and Malaysia - Borneo and Penang.

I don't know the state of the bilaterals - not my area - but I am told that all the Australian allocation to Indonesia are being used. I don't know how the NZ bilaterals stand.

Even so, I am really quite shocked at how the Australian airlines ignore Lombok (what Bali used to be), Balikpapan (oil industry and historical WW2 associations), Penang (massive hi tech behind the beaches), Kota Kinabalu (it's got it all, including the rainforests) and I'd love to see any airline fly to the southern Philippines - there's more to that country than Manila.

There are others - Pulau didn't work when Strategic flew it with the A330 (duh!) but there is a market (many Japanese), and probably from CNS or TSV. Jayapura, in West Papua, has no airline service to Oz. And speaking of Papua (New Guinea), the Oz airlines all go through Port Moresby, there's nothing to Lae or Rabaul or Madang

I doubt any of these would work as daily non-stops from the big eastern cities, but many of them could by flown with the A320 from DRW (or CNS/TSV for Pulau/PNG) and it is possible that there are a couple of potential routes from PHE or KTA, both at the epicentre of the resources industry which has no airline business connections except to backtrack through PER.

Throughout the world, airlines tend to fly to their nearest neighbours, but Australia seems still stuck in the long-haul hang-up, with Jetstar making only a minor dent in this at DRW, and only to the obvious suspects.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:12 pm

Is there a reliable source on the internet that can show me which gates flights at AKL use.
Any help is much appreciated
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:07 am

What is the state of play regarding the much talked about northern runway at AKL? Is this still in the works or are the authorities still stuck in the discussion process?

With a handful of international carriers expressing interest in services to AKL I wonder if things may progress more quickly due to possible congestion issues.

I remember a few years ago there were issues regarding the eventual removal of old Maori grave sites, but since then haven't heard much else.

[Edited 2013-02-15 17:08:00]
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:17 am

Quoting WSTAKL (Reply 27):
With a handful of international carriers expressing interest in services to AKL I wonder if things may progress more quickly due to possible congestion issues.

I think it's just like the new domestic terminal. AKL really need it but it's on the back burner for 'later'. I know the domestic terminal is getting another upgrade but the lack of gate space in the is shocking at many times, pays to start with the new terminal that has more gates before it gets too bad. Same goes for the runway but I think they are happy with being more reactive than proactive in these matters
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:27 am

Quoting Andrensn (Reply 26):

Is there a reliable source on the internet that can show me which gates flights at AKL use.

Which flights? International or domestic? Not to many use the same gate I wouldn't think not sure these days. SQ285/6 often uses Pier B and the US bound flights use gates 6, 7, 8, 10 which have the second security point.

Quoting WSTAKL (Reply 27):
What is the state of play regarding the much talked about northern runway at AKL? Is this still in the works or are the authorities still stuck in the discussion process?

Still in the works but onhold for now. IMO AKL doesn't need another runway for sometime yet.

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 28):
I know the domestic terminal is getting another upgrade but the lack of gate space in the is shocking at many times, pays to start with the new terminal that has more gates before it gets too bad

I think the problem is that if they build a new terminal to the north of the International then taxi times will be longer as it is further from the existing runway, thats part of the issue with the second runway and why it is required.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:42 am

This has been one of my pet peeves for a while, but now it looks like NZ is absolutely gouging PE pax on N.American connections.

I was looking at PE fares for May 8-21:

AKL-YOW-LAX/SFO-LAX/SFO-AKL-LAX/SFO (NZ) $3233/3159*

So NZ is ripping off almost $2000 for the N. American connections by marking up the N. American segment fares by 400%.

Advice to anyone connecting within N. America: buy a separate ticket on a N. American carrier.

* Calculated using the AC fare bucket in which NZ buys connections

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[Edited 2013-02-16 03:44:12]

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:43 am

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 29):
IMO AKL doesn't need another runway for sometime yet.

Well they kinda need it if they're going to start building the new domestic terminal - they need to coincide the opening of the new runway with the new terminal to make things a lot easier for transitioning.. And reduce the number of regional planes always having to go past the international terminal. But I still think they should be building the new parallel runway out into the harbour.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:52 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 31):
But I still think they should be building the new parallel runway out into the harbour.

That would make sense to me aswell. Bit strange having the 2nd runway primarily for domestic traffic to the north of the airfield when most flights come in from the south. But the cost would be horrendous I think
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:24 pm

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 32):

That would make sense to me aswell. Bit strange having the 2nd runway primarily for domestic traffic to the north of the airfield when most flights come in from the south. But the cost would be horrendous I think

Probably more resource consent issues too.. Although the noise issue would be less of a problem and they shouldn't be restricted to the length either. Sometimes I wish airport building here was like how it's done in China.. They just build it wherever and whenever.
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Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:51 pm

Quoting mariner (Reply 23):
I'm a workhorse. I am interested in the almost completely ignored (by Aussie airlines) routes to "nearer Asia" - and probably with the A320.

PR have just announced MNL-DRW-BNE with A320. I think this opens up a very interesting possibility for AKL if PR are game (though several Reps told me that the 333HGW was what they were waiting for when the President of Phils came)

a MNL-CNS-AKLwith A320, or MNL-BNE-AKL with an A319 would be pretty cool.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:08 pm

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 35):
PR have just announced MNL-DRW-BNE with A320.

That's the sort of route I was talking about. DRW is the obvious choice for 'nearer Asia' flights, although CNS would work for some - eastern nearer Asia.

There are range limitations. Despite some of the manufacturer's claims, I have always understood that the effective range of the A320 with a full commercial payload is about 2500 miles although the Neo will improve that. Lacsa/TACA trIed SJO-LAX with the A320 (2700 miles) but it almost always had to take a fuel stop at ACA, at least southbound.

So I very much doubt that the A320 (or A319) could make BNE-MNL but CNS-MNL might be possible and CNS-ZAM (Zamboanga - with its pink sand beaches) would be a breeze.

On the other side of the continent, if the Aussies had any sense they'd upgrade BME to full international capability and then much of western nearer Asia becomes possible, from a very attractive and desirable jumping-off point.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:04 am

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 29):
Which flights? International or domestic? Not to many use the same gate I wouldn't think not sure these days. SQ285/6 often uses Pier B and the US bound flights use gates 6, 7, 8, 10 which have the second security point.

Ideally international but domestic would also be helpful. I know AKL doesn't show gates on their website like at CHC but is there really no other source?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:31 am

Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 30):

I know what your talking about! When I was booking my USA flights for December/January last year I decided to book the WLG-AKL-LAX sector using airpoints, then pay for the LAX-DTW-LAX on US and then pay the LAX-AKL-WLG with NZ. I knew the fares would be charged in USA dollars but I wasn't expecting the heart attack when I went to purchase the fares. Y+ was nearly $3000 (once converted into NZL dollars) for a January 17th departure back home with a routing from LAX to AKL via SFO (only option NZ would give me when there were NZ5 and NZ1 operating that day). Needless to say I contacted NZ and got the airpoints purchase reversed and put more airpoints dollars onto my account to purchase the full return NZ fare on airpoints. Saved nearly $1000 doing that! Ended up paying over $1000 later to change my US flights as my flight from WLG-AKL was cancelled due to fog on December 23rd.........thank goodness for travel insurance!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:23 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 37):

I haven't looked at the mandate of the NZL Commerce Commission, but if this were happening in Canada (400% markup on connections to a long-haul sector on which an airline has a monopoly), I suspect the Competition Bureau would be all over it.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:31 pm

I probably should clarify, as my previous post became garbled:

Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 30):
I was looking at PE fares for May 8-21:

AKL-YOW-LAX/SFO-LAX/SFO-AKL-LAX/SFO (NZ) $3233/3159*

So NZ is ripping off almost $2000 for the N. American connections by marking up the N. American segment fares by 400%.

Advice to anyone connecting within N. America: buy a separate ticket on a N. American carrier.

* Calculated using the AC fare bucket in which NZ buys connections

The NZ PE fare for YOW-AKL-YOW is $5144, almost $2000 more than the same flights in the same fare classes booked on separate tickets.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:18 pm

Quoting Andrensn (Reply 26):
Is there a reliable source on the internet that can show me which gates flights at AKL use.
Any help is much appreciated

Me. lol It changes on a daily basis based on overall capacity, number of A380s on ground, overall widebody/narrowbody. some aircraft types can't go on certain gates others have to go on certain gates, some gates have to have certain flights so there are certain patterns that are followed.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:33 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 40):
some aircraft types can't go on certain gates
Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 40):
others have to go on certain gates

Is there a list of these somewhere? Thanks.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:29 am

Interesting post in 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 13 (by iowaman Jan 14 2013 in Civil Aviation) about the first B787-9

Back to the 787-9, the list also shows ZB197 (LN 146) a 787-9 going to ANA. Why Boeing is building this aircraft for ANA before Air New Zealand, which is to take the first 787-9, is a mystery.

ZB001 Boeing
ZB002 Boeing
ZB021 Boeing
ZB197 ANA

I'm just guessing here but ZB021 is perhaps a production frame? Boeing need at least 1 production frame to certify the 787-9. ZB021 could be the one for Air New Zealand?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:06 am

Uzbekistan airways are to fly two charters to CHC http://airlineroute.net/2013/02/19/hy-chc-apr13/
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:07 am

Looks like us Aucklanders will get to see Fiji Airways' A330s five times a week. Details here:
http://www.airpacific.com/about-us/n...ease-flights-with-arrival-of-a330s

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 46):
If that was really the case, that would mean dual configuration to the same aircraft type?

Doesn't seem wise considering the fleet size is so small; a 767 going tech could problematic. If they had kept those other 767-300ERs that they leased, I would agree with you as that would make a subfleet more worthwhile.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:11 am

''Auckland Airport earnings jump''

Auckland International Airport, the nations busiest gateway, posted an 11% increase in first-half profit and lifted its full-year guidance as growth in domestic passenger traffic made up for a decline in those from overseas.

Profit rose to $76.9 million in the six months ended December 31, from $69 million a year earlier, the company said in a statement today.

Sales rose 3.6% to $223.6 million. Profit and sales beat First NZ Capitals forecasts for $75.2 million and $221.4 million respectively.

Intresting tho -

The decline reflected a 25% drop in transit passengers, which the company said reflected the exit of Qantas Airways on the Los Angeles route from Sydney and Aerolineas Argentinas on the Buenos Aires route.

http://tvnz.co.nz/business-news/auckland-airport-earnings-jump-5347655

Now we wait for NZ's 1/2 year results next week? anybody want to place a bet on what were looking at?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:38 am

Just read an e-mail from NZ about the NZ/CX alliance as its now 'live' regarding airpoints/status points earning. Heres a bit from the e-mail

Regardless of which carrier you fly on between Auckland and Hong Kong, to earn both
Airpoints Dollars and Status Points on this route make sure you're booked on a flight with an NZ flight number (e.g. NZ80 or NZ4990) and you'll earn according to the Airpoints Dollars or Status Points Earned on Air New Zealand Flights Table.

If you travel on Cathay flight numbers (e.g. CX117 or CX7401) between Auckland and Hong Kong you will earn Airpoints Dollars based on the Airline Partner Earn Chart


Maybe someone can help me here, if I book a flight thats operated by CX (say CX117) but has an NZ codeshare number (say NZ4990) do I earn based on NZs earning rate or the partner earning rate, or do I earn NZs rates if the flight is operated by NZ and partner airline rates if the flights operated by CX? The bit above about the earn rates got me a lill confussed
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:49 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 46):
Maybe someone can help me here, if I book a flight thats operated by CX (say CX117) but has an NZ codeshare number (say NZ4990) do I earn based on NZs earning rate or the partner earning rate, or do I earn NZs rates if the flight is operated by NZ and partner airline rates if the flights operated by CX? The bit above about the earn rates got me a lill confussed

As long as you book the flight with NZ flight number even if it's operated by CX, you will earn based on the NZ earn table and Status Points. This is the same with the VA alliance across the Tasman.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:26 am

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 47):

Cool, thanks.

Seems theres also a bit of confussion with the VA codeshares as it was also talked about in the Airpoints e-mail
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 124

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:51 pm

Does anyone know what this private jet has been doing in Nelson lately.
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Just as in this photo it has it's engine covers on and it's been parked outside the old Origin Pacific terminal for a couple of days now.

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