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UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:43 am

Not sure why the last thread was deleted, the is new news and it is official:

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/n...ed-machinists-reach-tentative.html

Can someone provide of a summary of labor group contract negotiations?

Correct me if I am wrong:

AFA (Flight Attendants) - Done
ALPA (Pilots) - Done
IAM (Passenger Service, Store Keepers, Ramp Service and Fleet Service) - Tentative


Anyone else?

[Edited 2013-02-13 18:46:19]
 
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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:57 am

Quoting United787 (Thread starter):
IAM (Passenger Service, Store Keepers, Ramp Service and Fleet Service) - Tentative

aren't UA's Maintenance AMFA or did i miss something?
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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:03 am

Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 1):
aren't UA's Maintenance AMFA or did i miss something?

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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:05 am

Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 1):
aren't UA's Maintenance AMFA or did i miss something?
Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 1):
Teamsters

They were IAM originally, went to AMFA for a few years, and now are Teamsters.
 
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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:33 am

Quoting United787 (Thread starter):
AFA (Flight Attendants) - Done
ALPA (Pilots) - Done
IAM (Passenger Service, Store Keepers, Ramp Service and Fleet Service) - Tentative

Close...

ALPA (Done from UAs perspective anyway)
IAM Ground Employees (Tentative Agreement)

AFA - Agreements in place with all three separate labor groups - negotiations underway to reach a joint contract.
Mechanics - Agreements in place with all three separate labor groups - negotiations underway to reach a joint contract.

Dispatchers - In joint negotiations.

http://www.unitednegotiations.com/ Is a good source to see where UA stands regarding an agreement with it's unions.
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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:03 am

Congratulations for UA reaching this new milestone.
I don't know why, but UA good news always get very few replies.

Quoting United1 (Reply 4):
http://www.unitednegotiations.com/ Is a good source to see where UA stands regarding an agreement with it's unions.

I wasn't aware of this page. It is useful.
When they'll start the cross-fleeting?
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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:06 am

Quoting SHAQ (Reply 5):
When they'll start the cross-fleeting?

As in pmUA operating pmCO aircraft and the other way around? Once ALPA works out the seniority list that should start to happen...probably on the 737s first.
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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:13 am

Curious timing here.....I guess now the IAM can focus on its campaign to save its US Airways membership from the TWU
  
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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:19 am

About time, This is great news, The rumor was circling the ramp this morning and the Union was very active. Looking forward to reading our new agreement.
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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:29 am

Everyone is hoping for retro pay, but that seems unlikely as none of the other groups got it. Also I am personally hoping for the classification seniority to be eliminated. As well as maybe a 5% raise.
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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:47 am

Quoting United787 (Thread starter):

Maintenance instructors, Technical instructors.
 
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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:52 am

Quoting United787 (Thread starter):
AFA (Flight Attendants) - Done

AFA is so not done...
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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:31 am

Quoting United1 (Reply 6):

I doubt ALPA will be cross fleeting until the Maintenance information systems are aligned, S-co is on Sceptre Legacy system and still use a paper log book, S-UA is still on the Legacy Unimatic/ AMIS (Aircraft Mant. Info System) system and have an all electronic log book where paper is of VERY minimum use. Sceptre will be advancing the Electronic log book Later this year and should be all electronic by 2014. It makes pilot discrepancies and Deferred Maintenance items and the majority of the Maintenance information visible to both Flight crews and maintenance. so the pilot would have the ability to see what We see and we Know what they see as any Pilot gripes are input and visible to Maintenance prior to flight arriva.
This allows the disposition can be planned in advance and Parts ordered if Needed for greater information to ops. for airplane availability.
In most cases, we in maintenance can tell station Operations whether we will be taking a delay and why.
Both Ops and Dispatch can see the airplane status REAL TIME where we can discuss the situation and plan accordingly. Even up to the possibly needing a plane change before arrival of the inbound flight. .
It also allows us ALL to see trends and repeat problems for every Airplane.
I've not yet met a Captain that did not like the electronic Log Book. But just like anything? Garbage In? garbage out!.
It works because the Crews are required to give us a good Gripe and we'll give them a decent Maintenance Release.
No Unposted log books, every plane has every Gripe or re-check addressed and an issued Maintenance release accomplished Prior to push back.
Or the flight stays until it IS released.
(note: The FAA can also see the log inputs real time as well)
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RE: UA And IAM Reach Tentative Agreement

Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:53 pm

Quoting United1 (Reply 6):
As in pmUA operating pmCO aircraft and the other way around? Once ALPA works out the seniority list that should start to happen...probably on the 737s first.

Would sCO F/As be able to fly on aircraft piloted on sUA pilots, and vice versa? Or, will cross-fleeting need to wait until the F/As are also under a merged contract and seniority list?

IIRC, there was mention that until the F/A contracts are merged only sUA F/As can operate sUA aircraft, due to Scope. Can't recall hearing the same about sCO aircraft.

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