JoePatroni707
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Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:09 am

Just curious which airline has or will have the most diverse fleet, most types. AA will have a pretty diverse fleet in a couple of years with..

S80
737
757
767
777-2
777-3
787
319
320
321
332
333
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:16 am

Don't forget the A350 too ...
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:23 am

Delta has

A319
A320
A332
A333
DC95 ( pending retirement )
B717 ( pending arrival)
B737
B738
B739 ( pending delivery )
MD88
MD90
B752
B753
B763
B764
B777
B747

[Edited 2013-02-15 18:26:03]
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:27 am

Delta has a pretty diverse one right now and will continue to have one:

DC-9
MD-88
MD-90
737-700
737-800
747-400
757-200
757-300
767-300/300ER
767-400ER
777-200/200LR
A319
A320
A330-200
A330-300

Coming into the fleet later on this year:

717-200
737-900ER
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:43 am

Quoting srbmod (Reply 3):
777-200/200LR

Sorry, but I just have to correct that one. It should read

777-200ER/200LR.


Anyway, I would say that all the three majors have quite diverse fleets. It is even more mixed up when you throw in the regional jets operated for each carrier.
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:44 am

DL & AA because of the recent mergers, by default.
Does anybody know why the most recent US A321 was delivered with CFM not IAE which seem to be the case with deliveries over the last few years.

For general fleet size, hands down, the three big Chinese carriers CA, MU & CZ.
From E145s to 747s and everything in between and mix of engine manufacturers too.
The usual 737NG & A320 mix but the A320s are delivered with mix of CFMs & IAEs.
One day its a A320-232; next week its a A320-214. Same with the A321s & A319s.
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:08 am

Quoting carpethead (Reply 5):
the three big Chinese carriers CA, MU & CZ.

CZ has to be up there with 18 distinct types

319
320
321
332
333
388
733
73H
738
744F
77A
77E
77F
788
E45
E90
S76A & C
S92


MU with 14 types and 4 bizjets

AB6
319
320
321
332
333
343
346
733
73G
738
763
788
E45
CL30
GL XRS
G550
800XP

CA have 14 types plus the 789 on order (seperate cargo and biz divisions)

319
320
321
332
333
343
733
73G
738
744
752
763
77A
77W

UT Air or Russia have a pretty diverse fleet of 27 types incl helicopters & bizjets and with the 739 & SSJ on order

AN2
AN24
AN74
AT72
AT75
734
735
738
752
CL30
CR1
CR2
AS350
BO105
EC130
GIV
G550
Mi2
Mi8
Mi10
Mi17
Mi26
Mi171
TU3
TU5
YK40
YK42
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:14 am

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 6):
CA have 14 types plus the 789 on order (seperate cargo and biz divisions)

In the early/mid 1990s, I recall CA having something like 23 types of aircraft in the fleet.
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:28 am

Also French regional HOP! is offering a wide range of different manufacturer:

ex Airlinair ATR 42-300/-500, ATR 72-200/-500
ex Brit Air CRJ-100, CRJ-700 and CRJ-1000
ex Régional ERJ-145, EMB-170, EMB-190

For a regional carrier quite a challenge!
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:35 am

So we could conclude that the fleet mix of SAS is not that bad? A333/A343/A321/A319/MD82/734/736/737/738/CRJ900.

What about Lufthansa?
A380
B748
B744
A346
A343
A333
A321
A320
A319
B735
B733
CRJ900
CRJ700
MD11F
ERJ195
ERJ190
Dash8Q400

That's 17 in total. And than we do not count the Fokkers and Boeing 767/777 of OS.
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:48 am

Transaero Airlines (UN)

A320*
A388*
B734
B735
B738
B73G
B743
B744
B762
B763
B772
B773
B788*
Tu214

Air France (AF)

A318
A319
A320
A321
A332
A343
A388
B744
B772
B773
B77F

*on order
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:49 am

Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 9):
So we could conclude that the fleet mix of SAS is not that bad? A333/A343/A321/A319/MD82/734/736/737/738/CRJ900.

Add the A320 to that list too.
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:52 am

As AF-KL are actually one airline (like DL) the fleet will be (including britt, city, regional, martinair):

Avro RJ85
F50
F70
CRJ100
CRJ700
CRJ1000
ERJ-135
ERJ-145
Emb-170
Emb-190
A318
A319
A320
A321
B737-700
B737-800
B737-900
A332
A333
A340
A380
MD-11
MD-11F
777-200ER
777-300ER
747-400F (ER and BCF)
747-400 (full pax and combi)
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:20 pm

Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 9):
What about Lufthansa?
A380 B748 B744 A346 A343 A333 A321 A320 A319 B735 B733 CRJ900 CRJ700 MD11F ERJ195 ERJ190 Dash8Q400

You have to distinguish between Lufthansa Group (LHCargo with the MD11F, Cityline with the ERJ's and CRJ's, add then the A332 of SN, and the 777, 767 and F100 of OS, etc.) and LH itself.
LH only has only A380, B748, B744, A346, A343,A333, A321, A320, A319, B735, B733 (did I forget one?)

It strongly depends on the point of view.
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:34 pm

We at R3 currently operate:

An-24
An-140
Tu-154
B-737-700
B-737-800
B-757-200
SSJ RRJ-95B
Dash 8 Q400

All of those make up a fleet of 27 aircraft.

[Edited 2013-02-16 05:35:27]
An2/24/28,Yak42,Tu154/134,IL18/62/96,B737/757/767,A310/320/319,F100,BAe146,EMB-145,CRJ,A340-600,B747-400,A-330-300,A-340
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:28 pm

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Thread starter):
So we could conclude that the fleet mix of SAS is not that bad? A333/A343/A321/A319/MD82/734/736/737/738/CRJ900.
Quoting B747forever (Reply 11):
Add the A320 to that list too.

And you can add B717 too, Blue1 has merged completely into the SAS system.
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:41 pm

Air Koryo :

An-24
An-148
ll-18
Il-62
Il-76
Mi-8
Tu-134
Tu-154
Tu-204-100
Tu-204-300

Not bad for such a small airlines....
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:42 pm

Quoting carpethead (Reply 5):
Does anybody know why the most recent US A321 was delivered with CFM not IAE which seem to be the case with deliveries over the last few years.

My understanding was that all future A320 OEO family aircraft deliveries to US would be V2500 powered. Do you happen to know which tail number was recently delivered with CFM powerplants?
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:00 pm

IAG have a pretty diverse fleet too when you consider BA and IB together

A318
A319
A320
A321 (all 3 IAE and CFM)
A330
A343
A346
A380 (on order)
734
744
748f (via the GSS joint venture)
757 (open skies)
763
772
77W
788 (on order)
789 (on order)
E170
E190
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:23 pm

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 18):
IAG have a pretty diverse fleet too when you consider BA and IB together
Quoting srbmod (Reply 3):
Delta has a pretty diverse one right now and will continue to have one
Quoting JoePatroni707 (Thread starter):
AA will have a pretty diverse fleet in a couple of years with..
Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 6):
UT Air or Russia have a pretty diverse fleet of 27 types incl helicopters & bizjets and with the 739 & SSJ on order

I think that it is very easy for the large/mega carriers to have highly diverse types in their fleets. With the wide range of routes they operate they require diverse aircraft.




A better question may be which carrier operates the most diverse fleet in realtion to its overall inventory size?
UTAir may be a good candidate in this field.

I previously worked for an airline that 12 years ago had a total fleet of less than 42 a/c:
A333...A332...A321..A320..B737-400...B737-500...Bae146...FK50.....most of any 1 type was 6 I believe.
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:37 pm

I think this could be economical if you outsource literally everything. Training, maintenance etc. If you do things in house I can't see how it would make sense. Fleet commonality is a big plus for JetBlue and Southwest if you ask me. IT doesn't have to be 1 type but if its 3-4 it makes a big difference I think.
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:40 pm

For a good overview of domestic fleets see April 2013 issue of Airways Magazine for U.S. Major Airlines Annual Survey. Not much diversity in domestic companies. Airbus, Boeing, Douglas and Embraer and Bombardier for feeder fleets.
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:36 pm

Remember Kingfisher? They wanted "five of each".

If we take Austrian separately, they had/have a bit of everything that flies:
736, 737, 738, 319, 320, 321, 772, 763, F70, F100 for a very modest total number of planes. Lufthansa's bosses have grown lots of grey hair in thinking how to deal with this mess. The only time I've been in Vienna in 2010, I saw six different types of OS at six gates in a row. That is something.
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:32 pm

This is way back, but when I hired on with DL in '71, I believe we had 173 a/c in the fleet.....


L-100
DC-9-14
DC-9-32
CV880
DC-8-33
DC-8-51
DC-8-61
B747-200



Within a couple of years, the L-100 and CV880 was gone and we had added in the 727-95, 272-295, FH227 and more 9s, thanks to Northeast. We also added in the DC-10 and L1011. By the end of the 70s, the only widebody left in the fleet was the L1011.
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:05 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 23):
272-295

a rather obscure model from Oebing.   
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:37 am

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 24):
a rather obscure model from Oebing.

Oops.........................perhaps that's why we sold them to People Express.  
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:06 am

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Thread starter):

Was not aware AA was planning on ordering the Airbus A330, They will have the 767,777,787 and Airbus A330.
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:11 am

Quoting nutsaboutplanes (Reply 17):
Do you happen to know which tail number was recently delivered with CFM powerplants?

LN 5444 - N198UW was delivered as an A321-211
plus LN 5475 - N199UW is a A321-211 too, not delivered yet.
 
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:23 am

Quoting carpethead (Reply 27):
LN 5444 - N198UW was delivered as an A321-211
plus LN 5475 - N199UW is a A321-211 too, not delivered yet.

Thanks, I thought that all of the CFM birds had been delivered by last year. All 12 A321's that the west fleet recieved in 2012 were V2500 powered.
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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:49 am

Quoting doulasc (Reply 26):
Was not aware AA was planning on ordering the Airbus A330, They will have the 767,777,787 and Airbus A330.

They got them with the merger.

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RE: Airline With The Most Diverse Fleet

Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:01 pm

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 18):
IAG have a pretty diverse fleet too when you consider BA and IB together

don't forget the one example of SAAB2000 used for LCY-IOM - or as that's an Eastern Airlines machine maybe it doesn't count.