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Quoting indcwby (Reply 1): when you have major players such as EK and QR being the choice of travelers. |
Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 3): If this materializes i bet it would be a midnight departure from IST (main departure bank for fareast) and a late afternoon arrival back to IST (minor arrival bank from fareast NRT and 2nd BKK flight). IST-DEL 0:30 - 10:15 DEL-IST 13:40 - 17:35 |
Quoting indcwby (Reply 1): Will be interesting to see how well TK does with travel to the Indian sub-continent. Especially, when you have major players such as EK and QR being the choice of travelers. EY is also working its way up the ranks. |
Quoting behramjee (Reply 8): Departure time from IST is fine but inbound arrival would likely be at 1700 so a 1255 dep DEL in order to ensure that it connects with the 1820 IST JFK service i.e. TK 11 as well as 1900-2000 EU departure hub wave bank. |
Quoting VTORD (Reply 6): |
Quoting VTORD (Reply 6): This is a good time to arrive in order to connect to secondary destinations |
Quoting indcwby (Reply 13): An additional connection that many people would not want to endure, especially when you can get a widebody on EK from DXB to COK (B772), TRV (A332) or CCJ (Both types). |
Quoting indcwby (Reply 13): Indeed it is. The one thing I keep thinking is the percentage of travelers switching from QR or EK to travel on TK. Ex: Currently, I know a lot of South Indian travelers that take QR or EK from IAH > DOH/DXB to COK/TRV/CCJ. Only 1 stopover. When TK starts service in IAH, those same passengers would have to go IAH > IST > BOM/DEL > COK/TRV/CCJ. An additional connection that many people would not want to endure, especially when you can get a widebody on EK from DXB to COK (B772), TRV (A332) or CCJ (Both types). |
Quoting behramjee (Reply 19): Now if TK wants to get a bit creative and really operate double daily BOM flights, I would suggest that their BOM flight be extended to KTM-Kathmandu as the KTM-EU market size is big, higher yielding than EU-India + no EU carrier operates to KTM. IST-BOM-KTM is suggested because KTM on its own cannot support a daily A330 service but if operated via India, it can ! |
Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 20): In this case, the new route would fall off the airline's schedule grid and connectivity would suffer. |
Quoting indcwby (Reply 13): especially when you can get a widebody on EK from DXB to COK (B772), TRV (A332) or CCJ |
Quoting behramjee (Reply 19): would suggest that their BOM flight be extended to KTM-Kathmandu as the KTM-EU market size is big |
Quoting stylo777 (Reply 16): all this is for us enthusiast, not for the one-time-a-year traveler. |
Quoting VTORD (Reply 22): Wouldn't TK be better off targeting secondary destinations other than these 3? The COK/TRV/CCJ - DXB/DOH/AUH traffic is extremely strong for the ME3. So maybe TK goes BLR, HYD and AMD in that order whom they can service passengers from the US west and east coasts? |
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4): Last October the Indian side agreed to reopen the bilateral. The Turkish wish list was to be allowed to go double daily at BOM and DEL along with adding daily service to 5 other service points - Hyderabad, Amritsar, Kolkata, Bangalore and Chennai. Sounds like there might have been some positive movement finally. |
Quoting indcwby (Reply 24): Again, unless they have some serious discounts on their fares for BLR, HYD and AMD, I don't see them putting a dent with EK/QR, who is already established. For those who've traveled on TK, would someone like to say how they fare product-wise against the ME3? |
Quoting behramjee (Reply 8): However if TK goes into HYD with a daily A330, I honestly believe that within a year of that happening, BA will pull the plug on its B767 operated LHR-HYD service ! |
Quoting hohd (Reply 28): TK's service will mirror the middle east carriers, EK, EY and QR and is intended to compete with them and not BA. BA serves a different market (many cities in USA/Canada) plus a decent O & D to UK from HYD. So BAs service should not be affected much, but the middle east carriers would be affected more, especially, QR and EY. |
Quoting DTW2HYD (Reply 29): If TK eats into LH's BLR pie, LH may have to fall back on MAA/HYD. Hope they will be able to sustain 748i with 100 premium seats to BLR. |
Quoting Nimish (Reply 27): LH might take a bit of a beating though - esp on the insane fares they manage to charge... |
Quoting blrsea (Reply 32): I hjave actually found LH prices to be less than EK or BA/AF for an year or so, from BLR. Last year, I booked through LH for my India visit as it was the cheapest. Even now, I am finding that LH is cheaper than EK/BA/AF from BLR to SEA. |
Quoting Nimish (Reply 34): I guess LH's fares far in advance might be decent. But my experience while booking travel with 2-3 weeks of planned travel dates - LH is far higher than the Gulf carriers. Interestingly enough - LH typically again offers the lowest fares on the last day or two before travel. |
Quoting blrsea (Reply 38): I don't think TK will get as liberal bilaterals as the middle-east carriers got. India doesnt have that big of an economic relationship with Turkey. I think TK will probably get half or less of what it is hoping to get. |
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Quoting kaitak (Reply 39): Yes, but Turkey is a country of 75mi people and - both geopolitically and economically - very important, and with very significant growth potential; Turkey should be as important a trade (and diplomatic) partner to India as India is to Turkey, so I would expect India to see this as a possibility for India to build its economic relationship with Turkey. |
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 37): The new A321NEO order should come in nicely to serve secondary markets in places like India with its 3200nm range. |
Quoting sankaps (Reply 41): EK's odds of getting good quality (ie corporate) front cabin traffic is not high as their narrow-body product on the IST-Europe routes have a far inferior product to the EKs who fly long-haul wide-bodies on both legs |
Quoting sankaps (Reply 45): Indians feel at home transiting Dubai, Abu Dhabi, etc due to the large number of Indians living and working there, including a large part of the airline frontline staff. |
Quoting behramjee (Reply 44): due to the regional business class cabin on board which not a single Indian pax will appreciate for such a long flight. |
Quoting behramjee (Reply 44): For all of South India (HYD, BLR and MAA), TK has to use the A332/A333 only. |
Quoting Northstar80 (Reply 46): However, in some of my recent flights in TK A321s, the business class seats were proper business seats. The planes were very new too. So, I think the new TK planes will have good business seats. |