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TU-154 The End Of An Era

Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:27 pm

the last TU-154 will be delivered soon... read the full story.

http://en.rian.ru/business/20130219/179566443.html
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:33 pm

Truly the end of an era. One of the best looking planes ever made, with beautiful lines and a stunningly sleek look to it. Noisy as hell, climbing like a rocket. Gorgeous.

I have loved every moment of the times I have been in and around that plane.
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:54 pm

Quoting lollomz (Thread starter):
the last TU-154 will be delivered soon...

Russian carriers are scooping up any old 762 or 735 they can find--who on earth still wants a 154?
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:55 pm

The "Russian 727" indeed is a beautiful plane, just like the one it was modelled after. Actually I am surprised to read that they still made one from time to time until now. Loved to see them here at FRA, now its all boring A320/737 from Russia.
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:58 pm

I was surprised to read it is only good for 45,000 hours, 80,000 with upgrades. There are DC-9s with way more hours that that, not to mentions A LOT more 747s.
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:05 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 4):

Upgrades basically refers to a d level inspection. And that extends the lifetime until the next one, and so on. So use the 80k number as the actual lifespan. After which there are still ways to extend...with some conditions.
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:34 pm

Wow ! I thought they stopped making new TU-154's about 10 years ago ! What's the Russian Defence Ministry going to use it for ? Does this aircraft have an executive interior ?
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:02 pm

It is sad that TU-154 production is coming to an end...  

On the other hand, production of new-built re-engined IL-76 has just started!   
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:07 pm

It's strange that this FlightGlobal article from 2006 said Tu-154 production ended that year.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...tion-after-fulfilling-last-207536/

Did they really build just one more almost 7 years later?
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:39 am

Quoting na (Reply 3):
The "Russian 727"

Well, it has three rear engines and it also has wings. That's pretty much where the similarity ends.
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:52 am

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 9):
Well, it has three rear engines and it also has wings. That's pretty much where the similarity ends.

This is what I wanted to write as well, except that I would've left out the part about the wings.  
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:05 am

Quoting BEG2IAH (Reply 10):
except that I would've left out the part about the wings.

Well, the TU-154 has much cooler wings. Down-swept (anhedral) and with a very cool swept-back angle (no idea what the tech term for that is). It's also a very fast plane.
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:15 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):
Did they really build just one more almost 7 years later?

IIRC it was on limited production.
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:32 am

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 11):
It's also a very fast plane.

I hope I'll have a chance to fly one before they are all retired. My friend who is totally clueless about airplanes and who is generally always afraid to fly told me about his experience. He couldn't stop talking about it. I was jealous.
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:10 am

I'm shocked. Honestly I thought production ended 20 years ago n
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:36 am

This must make the Tu-154 close to being the jetliner with the longest production run in history.

Can anything else match it?
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:49 am

Glad I flew one a couple years back in Uzbekistan, also got the chance to see an IL96 at TAS, what a stunning four holer. My TU154 had seen better days, seat broken, no windowshade, ect, still a fun ride, glad I had the opportunity.
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:01 am

Quoting Dalavia (Reply 15):
This must make the Tu-154 close to being the jetliner with the longest production run in history.

Can anything else match it?

737. And 747, soon enough.
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:12 am

How different is a TU-154 delivered today to one delivered in the early 1970s?

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 9):
Well, it has three rear engines and it also has wings. That's pretty much where the similarity ends.

Yup, the TU-154 looks much, much better than any 727.
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:09 am

Quoting SSTeve (Reply 17):
Quoting Dalavia (Reply 15):
This must make the Tu-154 close to being the jetliner with the longest production run in history.

Can anything else match it?

737. And 747, soon enough.
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=37

http://www.airvectors.net/avan24_1.html

I think the an-24 and subsequent Chinese licence production takes the record for an airliner.

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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:51 am

Actually full production stopped in 1997. They had about a dozen white tails and unfinished fuselages lying around at the factory since of which they finish and deliver one every now and then. Theoretically there are also a handful of Il-62s and Yak-42s which could be finished and delivered.
Since 1997 they slowly finish these fuselage and deliver them mainly to military operators, of course the Tu-154 is not a current aircraft anymore. Even in Russia it's hard to find one to fly on as passenger and they are scrapping already some laterbuilts.
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:20 am

A reason I have really lost my interest in Aviation is the lack of planes like the TU154 and its other russian brothers flying around anymore. I miss the days of smokey loud dc-8s, Tristars.. all different shapes and noises. Now its a320/737 airbus/boeing .. 2 engined same shaped dullness topped off with the worst liveries in history being created.

I haven't browsed the ANET galleries in for so long and I used to spend hours on them.
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:20 pm

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 20):
Actually full production stopped in 1997. They had about a dozen white tails and unfinished fuselages lying around at the factory since of which they finish and deliver one every now and then. Theoretically there are also a handful of Il-62s and Yak-42s which could be finished and delivered.
Since 1997 they slowly finish these fuselage and deliver them mainly to military operators, of course the Tu-154 is not a current aircraft anymore. Even in Russia it's hard to find one to fly on as passenger and they are scrapping already some laterbuilts.

Interesting, seems bizarre to go to to the effort in finishing such an outdated plane that most operators have dumped, when production of more recent Russian types like the Tu-204 is virtually at a standstill?
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:39 pm

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 21):
A reason I have really lost my interest in Aviation is the lack of planes like the TU154 and its other russian brothers flying around anymore. I miss the days of smokey loud dc-8s, Tristars.. all different shapes and noises. Now its a320/737 airbus/boeing .. 2 engined same shaped dullness topped off with the worst liveries in history being created.

I haven't browsed the ANET galleries in for so long and I used to spend hours on them.

True,and not only airplanes but cars,appliances,everything.. now there is only different sticker/brand name on same product.
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:16 pm

Quoting AY-MD11 (Reply 23):
True,and not only airplanes but cars,appliances,everything.. now there is only different sticker/brand name on same product.

Right, I speak of it like I am an old man looking back but I am only 27 lol.. In such a short space of time it has become so dull.
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:34 pm

They should replace the 204 with the 154      
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:14 pm

Is the one just delivered number 1000? Here's a pic of that one being assembled in 2009.


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Here's a pic also from four years ago of the assembly line...looks like there may be two more!


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Amazing how slow the progress on these has been...maybe an accounting thing not wanting to write off the unfinished frames? With the progress it seems like they only have one guy building the whole plane!

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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:58 pm

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 21):
I miss the days of smokey loud dc-8s, Tristars.. all different shapes and noises.

True... you could tell a Tristar just by the sound of the RR's starting. And the smoke. Ah, things just aren't what they used to be.

I've always wondered about the 154's four wheel main gear. Is it that much heavier than, say, a 727? But the 154 is a beautiful plane.
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:30 pm

Quoting cschleic (Reply 27):
I've always wondered about the 154's four wheel main gear. Is it that much heavier than, say, a 727?

IIRC it had four wheel main gear because of the poor runway conditions at most Soviet airports at the time.
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:58 pm

And here I thought the 154 went out of production several years ago.
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:07 am

Quoting cschleic (Reply 27):
Quoting TK1244 (Reply 28):


Close....
The Tu-154 has a 6 wheel main gear similar to that of the 777, designed for short and rough field operations..



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You are probably thinking of the Tu-134:


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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:56 am

Quoting cschleic (Reply 27):
I've always wondered about the 154's four wheel main gear. Is it that much heavier than, say, a 727? But the 154 is a beautiful plane

Well - here are some specs. Note - pulled from various places.
















































B727 Tu-154 Tu Difference
Seating: 149-189 114-180 Slightly less
Legth: 40.6-46.6m 48.0m Slightly more
Wingspan: 32.92m 37.55 Significnatly more
Wing Area: 153m^2 201.5m^2 Significnatly more
Tail Height: 10.36m 11.4m Slightly more
MTOW 77000-95000kg 98000-104000kg ~10%more
OEW: 36560-46700kg 50700-55300kg ~40-20% more
Payload: 40440-48300kg 47300-48700kg About same in later versions
Range Fully Loaded 4300-4800km 2500-5200km Config Dependent
Max cruise 0.9Mach (=531kn@30Kft) 527kn) Seems 727 is faster
Typical Cruise 521 kn Econ cruise 486kn Again - 727 little faster

Both are amazing performers. Looks like the 727 was a bit more sporty, the Tu-154 a little more tankish.

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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:02 am

Quoting cschleic (Reply 27):
True... you could tell a Tristar just by the sound of the RR's starting. And the smoke. Ah, things just aren't what they used to be.

Hah right on, We used to get sometimes only 14 or 15 flights a day for a London airport but the mix was incredible. Aer Turas DC8, DHL Convair 580 to start the day.. Manx ATP.. British Midland dc9.. the L1011'S from Caledonian.. Few Monarchs and Britannias thrown in. Some SD360 or fokker 27 as the late cargo flights. Now its just airbus airbus boeing airbus.. even the old cargo flights are covered by boeing boeing airbus airbus zzzzzzzzzzz.

Gave up parking up at the airport and watching planes take off and land. Just tedious now.
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:39 pm

Quoting rcair1 (Reply 31):
Looks like the 727 was a bit more sporty, the Tu-154 a little more tankish.

Some of the sportier take offs I've seen from the TU154 have been the most rocket-like of any type I've witnessed (perhaps on a par with an empty MD-11F)!
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:09 pm

[quote=UA735WL,reply=30]Close....
The Tu-154 has a 6 wheel main gear similar to that of the 777, designed for short and rough field operations..
My bad, indeed confused with the Tu-134 main gears...
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:58 pm

Quoting UA735WL (Reply 30):
Close....
The Tu-154 has a 6 wheel main gear similar to that of the 777, designed for short and rough field operations..

Ah, right. Thanks for the clarification. I've always thought the 134 is a nice looking plane, too.
 
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RE: TU-154 The End Of An Era

Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:49 am

Quoting zkojq (Reply 18):
How different is a TU-154 delivered today to one delivered in the early 1970s?

Vastly. The original Tu-154 (no letters) had a weak wing, old NK-8 engines, older avionics, less fuel, less seats, etc... then came the Tu-154A, the Tu-154B, Tu-154B-1, Tu-154B-2 and finally the current Tu-154M. During the course of the 70s and 80s all Tu-154 and Tu-154A were upgraded to a B standard. The Tu-154M is a whole different animal. While Tu-154Ms can still be found, even as passenger carriers, finding an airworthy Tu-154B is all but impossible unless you count military ones. The only passenger Tu-154Bs left are the ones with Air Koryo as far as I know...

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