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Quoting jethawk (Thread starter): would one think DAL would be interested in acquiring the floundering Virgin America brand. |
Quoting jethawk (Thread starter): With DAL now in the left seat of Virgin Atlantic |
Quoting jethawk (Thread starter): its imminent addition to Sky Team |
Quoting jethawk (Thread starter): would one think DAL would be interested in acquiring the floundering Virgin America brand. |
Quoting jethawk (Thread starter): Could these be the slightly used birds they are looking for? |
Quoting jethawk (Thread starter): If the price was right I could see a win for DAL. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5): I don't think DL is interested in a SFO hub if you'd call it that, and VX's business model is pretty different... I don't think it would work at all. |
Quoting boeing773ER (Reply 8): Well doesnt DL indirectly own about 12.4% of VX already? Since they own 49% of Virgin Atlantic which owns 25% of VX?im not sure if my logic is right, but that's what my thought is. |
Quoting boeing773ER (Reply 8): Well doesnt DL indirectly own about 12.4% of VX already? Since they own 49% of Virgin Atlantic which owns 25% of VX?im not sure if my logic is right, but that's what my thought is. |
Quoting toltommy (Reply 13): One word. Scope. If Delta owns a majority of a carrier that flies aircraft seating more than 76, it must be flown by pilots on the Delta seniority list. |
Quoting tullamarine (Reply 12): DL also has a close alliance with VA though hasn't been able to get any equity so far |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5): No. DL is looking for slightly used planes no one wants. Who wants MD-90s or 717s? Basically no one. VX's A320s would quickly find a home. |
Quoting jethawk (Thread starter): |
Quoting SocalApproach (Reply 14): All the doomsday talking only happens here on a.net |
Quoting VS11 (Reply 16): as long as DL FAs are not forced onto VX... |
Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 22): No it doesn't. For a company that has been around as long as VX that doesn't seem anywhere near to posting a profit plenty of people talking (laughing) about VX outside of anet |
Quoting SocalApproach (Reply 24): Heck even as bad as a situation AA was in they never were mentioned as being "bought" out |
Quoting SocalApproach (Reply 24): It doesn't matter if VX were to ever post a profit. They will always be in the neighborhood with B6/AS/G4 as being Bought out by the above 3 I mentioned... |
Quoting SocalApproach (Reply 24): Pilots and Inflight coming from regional's and the legacy's trying to improve their quality of life or just get off reserve are leaving for VX if they have the opportunity. |
Quoting SocalApproach (Reply 24): Who?? |
Quoting SocalApproach (Reply 24): I guess this is something I have to get used to here at a.net. Unless you are a legacy or your name is DL/UA/WN you will always be associated with being bought out by someone no matter how good you are doing |
Quoting MIflyer12 (Reply 26): (note DFW could not, demonstrated by Delta's retreat). |
Quoting XT6Wagon (Reply 15): In short, waiting till they have an asset sale is the highest reward Delta or any other airline can see from Virgin America. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5): Quoting jethawk (Thread starter): With DAL now in the left seat of Virgin Atlantic RIGHT seat, they may have 49% but SRB still has 51% (control/left seat) |
Quoting jethawk (Reply 6): Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5): RIGHT seat, they may have 49% but SRB still has 51% (control/left seat) Fixed that one for you, I was thinking right in my small little head |
Quoting ezra (Reply 31): |
Quoting goosebayguy (Reply 30): I think its a bit hasty to suggest VX is on life support. I seem to recall reading that losses were expected for several years as they build up the fleet. |
Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 25): Generally no one expect VX to be bought |
Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 25): I'm going to call horse crap on this. I'm sure you have a fair share of RJ guys but I don't believe for a second that many are leaving airlines like B6/NK/F9 much less the DL/UA/WN hell even AA to come to the sinking ship that is VX. |
Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 25): Anyone who is smart enough to look at VX negative double digit margins and see how badly VX is burning money. |
Quoting goosebayguy (Reply 30): I think its a bit hasty to suggest VX is on life support. I seem to recall reading that losses were expected for several years as they build up the fleet. |
Quoting goosebayguy (Reply 30): I think its a bit hasty to suggest VX is on life support. I seem to recall reading that losses were expected for several years as they build up the fleet. |
Quoting Polot (Reply 35): Successful airlines continue to grow, they don't come to a standstill. |
Quoting PIEAvantiP180 (Reply 33): If they wanted to run a split operation they would do that but i don't think they do. T-5,6 that DL is in and T-3 where VX is at are on opposite sides on LAX terminal complex and that would complicate connections. If VX goes under then maybe they can pick up the tab that AS spent on upgrades in T-6 and send them back to T-3. Part of the reason why i believe DL want's AS is because of the gates they have in T-6. |
Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 32): B6 and VX would go nicely together as others have mentioned. AS is the airline that DL wants. |
Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 22): not true. Delta looks at lot of things. It just happens to be right now, M90/717 is the cheapest way to go. Once all the NEOs and MAXs start showing up don't be shocked to see DL go after NGs and OEOs. |
Quoting VictorKilo (Reply 28): I agree....and even then, I only see Delta as a bidder of last resort. |
Quoting deltalaw (Reply 42): I am just not sure VA is the west coast competition that DL is really all that concerned with. AA, UA, and AS are all bigger fish to fry for DL continuing to struggle to make a true west coast footprint. |
Quoting jethawk (Thread starter): could possibly mean more slots at JFK. |
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 41): |
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 45): Delta has more slots at JFK than they know what to do with. Yes, even at peak times. |
Quoting point2point (Reply 3): and the price is bargain basement |
Quoting VS11 (Reply 16): .the essence is that DL acquires a great product |
Quoting PIEAvantiP180 (Reply 46): He mentioned that in the next 5 years they will be able to find great opportunity on used 10-12 year old aircraft coming off leases to supplement their MD-90, 717, and 739ER coming on property. |