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Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:18 pm

Airbus is set to deliver the 100th A380 to MH next month. The lucky bird will be MSN114 / 9M-MNF.

A picture of MSN114 with the "100th A380" sticker:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/xfwspotter/8509429567/
(uploaded by XFW-Spotter)

Time flies, and despite some difficult periods the A380 reaches delivery number 100. So who will take delivery of number 200?  
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:39 pm

Wow, suddenly that happens fast.
Number 200? Likely in 2017, and 40% chance its an Emirates plane!
 
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:45 pm

Check this page to see how the EK A380 fleet is performing:

http://www.theeksource.com/
 
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:11 pm

Quoting factsonly (Reply 2):
Check this page to see how the EK A380 fleet is performing:

http://www.theeksource.com/

From the link, it seems to me that there are an unusual number of "technical issues" delaying flights. Thoughts?

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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:37 pm

Quoting atlengineer (Reply 3):
Thoughts?

Sand?  
 
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:37 pm

Quoting atlengineer (Reply 3):
From the link, it seems to me that there are an unusual number of "technical issues" delaying flights. Thoughts?

ATLengineer

Its either they have a good reporting system, or their planes are maintained to a lower standard to other airlines, or they have a lot more flights everyday than other airlines.

I do have to say that, on my last EK A380 flight back in January 2013, on a 2 month old machine, lots of those window blinds were broken (the handle of them) in Y class, it does not look good at all and gave the impression that EK dont look after their planes as well as it should be.
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:46 pm

Quoting musapapaya (Reply 5):

Everybody should know that Emirates ' maintenance level and pilot training still offer lots of room for improvement !

Same like Turkish - no, thank you !
 
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:17 pm

There have been quite a few reporting anomalies that have caused unnecessary cancellations. Flight Global had an inservice report on the aircraft a year or so ago:
http://www.flightglobal.com/page/A380-In-Service-Report/

As you see if you read the article, Airbus then had lots of false indications, partly the result of a conservative approach early in the service life. However, operating costs are better than specified and are further improving as new blocks of mods reduce weight and make other improvements. The cancellations and technical delays are almost all false warnings. Dispatch reliability has recently gone above 98.5% as I recall from another report, so is now meeting contractual terms. Further the A380 is doing turns regularly in less than two hours with no problems.

All in all operators seem pretty pleased, and attest that the A380 has fewer launch problems than did the B777, the A340 or the B744.

BTW, OT, I'll wager the B787 will be an easy aircraft for dispatch reliability once a couple of hundred of them get in service so all the bugs can get worked out. As the B773 and A380 have shown, software problems are easy to fix once they've been understood, but they're very hard to diagnose precisely. That makes serious improvements slower in the beginning of service, if I understand this correctly..
 
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:01 am

Who has #99 and When?
 
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:35 am

How much weight has been cut from the A380 since early builds? Will they cut more?
 
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:40 am

Quoting jbcarioca (Reply 7):
There have been quite a few reporting anomalies that have caused unnecessary cancellations. Flight Global had an inservice report on the aircraft a year or so ago:
http://www.flightglobal.com/page/A38...port/

That Flight Global report is from October 2009, so 3½ years old.

That was when the 20th A380 was delivered to Air France.
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:57 am

Last two weeks saw a nice Thai A380 while transiting Narita. Big purple.

Backlog is drying up though, down to 2006 levels. Might be at 2005 levels before year end unless orders pick up.
 
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:58 am

Quoting Flighty (Reply 9):
How much weight has been cut from the A380 since early builds? Will they cut more?

About 3 tonnes from the airframe, with another tonne to come (according to EK, who have also taken about 2 tonnes out of their cabin in the same timeframe)

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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:26 am

Quoting atlengineer (Reply 3):
From the link, it seems to me that there are an unusual number of "technical issues" delaying flights. Thoughts?

In skimming through the homepage and the February archive, they reported three technical issues this month. That doesn't really strike me as an unusual number.

Quoting jbcarioca (Reply 7):
Dispatch reliability has recently gone above 98.5% as I recall from another report, so is now meeting contractual terms.

At the ILA in September Airbus stated they're now running at 99.3%.

Airbus is underlining the positive effect that a number of retrofit measures on various systems has had on A380 dispatch.

A380 marketing head Richard Carcaillet says the retrofit improvements lifted the fleet's dispatch reliability rate by a percentage point, to 99.3%, from the beginning of 2012.

The improvement has been notable during the course of delivery of the past 25 aircraft, he says.

Modifications have been made to systems such as landing-gear door sensors which, he says, were "a bit too twitchy" as well as fuel pumps, electro-hydraulic actuators and door systems.


http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...sh-up-dispatch-reliability-376362/
 
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:04 am

are there some L/N's missing in sequence? I flew A6-EEC a month ago and that was MSN 110. Did some not get made or get skipped?
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:32 am

Quoting hannahpa (Reply 8):
Who has #99 and When?

CZ will take # 99 in the next few days. This will be MSN120 / B-6140.
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:34 am

Quoting astuteman (Reply 12):
(according to EK, who have also taken about 2 tonnes out of their cabin in the same timeframe)
Quoting musapapaya (Reply 5):
on my last EK A380 flight back in January 2013, on a 2 month old machine, lots of those window blinds were broken (the handle of them) in Y class

A link maybe? Heavy handles?!    
 
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:34 am

Quoting Flighty (Reply 9):
How much weight has been cut from the A380 since early builds? Will they cut more?

Up to 4 tons according to Emirates. It is likely that more cuts will follow.
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:38 am

Quoting JohnClipper (Reply 14):
are there some L/N's missing in sequence? I flew A6-EEC a month ago and that was MSN 110. Did some not get made or get skipped?

Yes a number were not taken up or delivery deferred once a number had already been allocated - e.g. the freighters and the planes for MH were initially supposed to be early build and were then deffered but some early numbers were not reused. Also MSN001, 002 and 004 are still at Airbus as test aircraft or (in the case of 002 awaiting delivery (for ever!))
 
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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:23 am

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RE: Almost 100 A380 Aircraft In Service

Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:48 am

Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 18):
Quoting JohnClipper (Reply 14):are there some L/N's missing in sequence? I flew A6-EEC a month ago and that was MSN 110. Did some not get made or get skipped?
Yes a number were not taken up or delivery deferred once a number had already been allocated - e.g. the freighters and the planes for MH were initially supposed to be early build and were then deffered but some early numbers were not reused. Also MSN001, 002 and 004 are still at Airbus as test aircraft or (in the case of 002 awaiting delivery (for ever!))

The A380 deliveries are notorious for being completely out-of-sequence, nearly random.
This is based on cancellations and deferrals, yes, but also several batches of ac with different kind of problems/upgrades.
The cracks and their remedial works have added to that.

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