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Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:05 pm

I was surprised to see this company operates an E190. I haven't seen a European charter airline operating regional aircraft before. Then I saw this:

Jetairfly chairman Elie Bruyninckx said, “With the E-190, we can reduce the number of costly triangle and intermediate-stop flights that are necessary with our larger airplanes to consolidate loads in smaller markets. That means more nonstop flights and shorter travel times for our passengers.”

Does this mean that the Embraers will be used as feeders to the airport's hubs? If so, is this the first example of a charter airline operating an (embryonic) hub and spoke system?
 
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:51 pm

Quoting Eltomzo (Thread starter):
Does this mean that the Embraers will be used as feeders to the airport's hubs?

No, it means that instead of having a 738 operating BRU-AGA-RAK-BRU they will now have the E190 operating BRU-AGA-BRU and BRU-RAK-BRU.

Quoting Eltomzo (Thread starter):
If so, is this the first example of a charter airline operating an (embryonic) hub and spoke system?

No.
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:53 pm

Quoting Eltomzo (Thread starter):
Does this mean that the Embraers will be used as feeders to the airport's hubs? If so, is this the first example of a charter airline operating an (embryonic) hub and spoke system?

No it is means the Belgium market for TUi Package holidays is somewhat limited in size, even to the Spanish hotspots.
They have to combine flights over Ostend and Liege with Brussels, on one end, or do multiple stops around the Greek Isles and Morocco for instance.
They can also tailor some of the smaller markets such as Dalmatian coast resorts where the B738 are just too much capacity.
Further they also operate a from a few small northern French markets again where Corsair are too large.

These Regional Jets will allow more point to point round trip operations and they are NOT creating a Hub and spoke least not in their Belgian operations.
 
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:45 pm

Also, there is nothing regional about these jets. Unless your region is 2000nm wide...  
 
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:04 am

They plan to use them on many different routes, right now they are scheduled to operate to AJA, ALC, LEI, ATH, BIA, CTA, DJE, DBV, NBE, FAO, GRO, IBZ, XRY, CFU, LDE, AGP, MAH, NAP, OHD, OLB, PMO, PMI, PRN, REU, SKP, TIA and ZTH according to our database. All from Brussels.
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:51 am

Flybe use their E195's on IT charters on summer weekends, mainly from BHX, to Croatia and elsewhere.
 
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:44 am

So no plans on visiting the Canary islands then, What reg is it out of interest?
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:02 am

Quoting acelanzarote (Reply 6):
What reg is it out of interest?

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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:54 pm

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 4):
They plan to use them on many different routes, right now they are scheduled to operate to AJA, ALC, LEI, ATH, BIA, CTA, DJE, DBV, NBE, FAO, GRO, IBZ, XRY, CFU, LDE, AGP, MAH, NAP, OHD, OLB, PMO, PMI, PRN, REU, SKP, TIA and ZTH according to our database. All from Brussels.
So about half of these destinations make sense, the other half doesn't. I was expecting they would deploy the E190 on OST and LGG outbound flights so they can use the 737s of OST/LGG at BRU/CRL...


I think the E190 is a good aircraft to replace some routes during the low season but deploying an E190 on BRU-PMI/AGP/ATH/FAO (high season) sounds unrealistic. Anyway the E190 looks good with Jetairfly/TUI livery!

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Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:00 pm

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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:17 pm

I'm booked on Jetairfly in the summer EDI-PIM and had hoped that I might get another ride on an E190 which is an aircraft I love.

But it looks like I'll be on the good old 738. Yawn.

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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:23 pm

As axelesgg says, they used to have the F100 as well, there is even a cockpit video program featuring a flight in it to Nador. Air Canada also uses the E jets to do vacation charters, since they are well suited/designed for short to mid length thin routes.
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:35 pm

Quoting photoshooter (Reply 8):
So about half of these destinations make sense, the other half doesn't. I was expecting they would deploy the E190 on OST and LGG outbound flights so they can use the 737s of OST/LGG at BRU/CRL...

The poster of the destinations probably didn't add these destinations depend on season. You'd suppose IBZ is not as busy in the winter season as it is in the summer season for instance  .
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:15 pm

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 12):
You'd suppose IBZ is not as busy in the winter season as it is in the summer season for instance

Almost no charters to Ibiza from anywhere between November and May - The isle hibernates !
 
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:19 pm

I think they will more fly from Liège and Ostend than from BRU. They may also fly some routes out of Charleroi and from Morocco for the ex-Jet4You  
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:45 pm

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 13):
Quoting Tomskii (Reply 12):
You'd suppose IBZ is not as busy in the winter season as it is in the summer season for instance

Almost no charters to Ibiza from anywhere between November and May - The isle hibernates !

I was about to say the same... I doubt they fly to IBZ during the low season. All I am saying is that I'm a bit surprised they are not basing it in OST/LGG with lower costs and not difficult to fill them. The F100 they had was a frequent visitor in OST/LGG/CRL as well, or even based there for a period.

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 14):
I think they will more fly from Liège and Ostend than from BRU. They may also fly some routes out of Charleroi and from Morocco for the ex-Jet4You  

Jet4You had quite some flights from Morocco to other places in Europe.. JAF seems to be interested in doing the same but limited and only within The Netherlands - Belgium - France.
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:52 pm

Why limited to NL-B-F ? The opensky agreement allow any European airline to establish routes to/from Morocco with no regards to registration or country of origin... confirm ?!
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:12 pm

No legal reason why not but it's probably to avoid treading on the other parts of the TUI group...
 
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:52 pm

Quoting photoshooter (Reply 15):
I was about to say the same... I doubt they fly to IBZ during the low season. All I am saying is that I'm a bit surprised they are not basing it in OST/LGG with lower costs and not difficult to fill them. The F100 they had was a frequent visitor in OST/LGG/CRL as well, or even based there for a period.

I would not underestimate loads at LGG nor OST (but more on LGG). The few times I flew them out of LGG (it's not that far for me) the flights were pretty full. That's high season of course but there are a lot of walloons liking the fact to fly out closer to home in a less busy airport than BRU or CRL.  
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:31 am

Well it passed through LPA on delivery yesterday....be interesting to see if more follow if it works out well.
Might other parts of the TUI group also be interested...
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:38 pm

How many seats does this bird have? 100 or 110-114?
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RE: Jetairfly (Tui)'s Use Of E190

Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:25 pm

Quoting acelanzarote (Reply 19):
be interesting to see if more follow if it works out well.

I believe they ordered two E190s... Stay tuned  .

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 20):
How many seats does this bird have? 100 or 110-114?

112 seats on OO-JEM. That sounds a bit tight for me on a 2.5-3 hour flight... Seat pitch must be 29'' inch or less.
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