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BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:04 pm

Ryanair have announced that these price hikes will lead to a drop in traffic from 12.5m to 11.4m as they cut back 43 of its routes and the reduction of 170 flights per week.

Even though the airport has been sold to MAG, BAA seem insistent that these charges go ahead.

http://www.ryanair.com/ie/news/ferro...stansted-s-airlines-and-passengers
 
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:45 pm

Quoting vxracing16 (Thread starter):
Even though the airport has been sold to MAG, BAA seem insistent that these charges go ahead.

The sale is far from completed - Its remains a BAA enterprise
 
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:49 pm

Not any more it's not!. Deal completed today.
 
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:36 pm

weird... How is BAA pushing these charges ahead if they're not going to be owning STN?
 
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:47 pm

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 1):
Its remains a BAA enterprise

How do you figure? It's a done deal. De-branding has started in earnest.
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:17 pm

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 4):
How do you figure? It's a done deal. De-branding has started in earnest.

Not questioning sale however when posted hadn't seen todays press statement - (just timing)
 
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:19 pm

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 5):
Not questioning sale however when posted hadn't seen todays press statement - (just timing)

Fair enough, but this was beyond doubt some weeks ago. Branding has been off the website for ages.

Quoting vxracing16 (Thread starter):
BAA seem insistent that these charges go ahead.

This is an idiotic thing to do at this particular juncture and point in time, and the timing has to be viewed as bizarre. Ryanair certainly have a point that it looks suspect.
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:52 pm

The Telegraph says the price rise was agreed years ago with the CAA

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...ted-by-one-million-passengers.html
 
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:34 am

So will MAP change/cancel the increase once they are in charge I wonder.....
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:35 pm

Quoting acelanzarote (Reply 8):
So will MAP change/cancel the increase once they are in charge I wonder.....

They'd be crazy not to. Love or hate Ryanair, the fact is they provide most of the footfall through Stansted, and the passenger numbers have been going down for too long already. It is also telling that FR are not the only airline to have either pulled or reduced routes. Something is wrong, and constantly hiking fees clearly won't remedy the current trend.
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Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:05 pm

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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:08 am

I'm not convinced MAG will go ahead with these increases, I would have thought it would have been very difficult to hide something like that from RYR though, and only last week there was mention of them increasing based aircraft to 50 (8 more then last year)!

Regarding MAGs plans for the airport, well, lets just say its going to be a very interesting couple of years -

Stansted takeover: Manchester Airport Group pledge sky battle as they seal £1.5bn deal

Its interesting they mention £40m on new shops but no other details on other investment. Where are they going to spend this kind of money on retail? Surly terminal space has already been used.

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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:19 am

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 6):
This is an idiotic thing to do at this particular juncture and point in time, and the timing has to be viewed as bizarre. Ryanair certainly have a point that it looks suspect.
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 9):
They'd be crazy not to. Love or hate Ryanair, the fact is they provide most of the footfall through Stansted, and the passenger numbers have been going down for too long already. It is also telling that FR are not the only airline to have either pulled or reduced routes. Something is wrong, and constantly hiking fees clearly won't remedy the current trend.
Quoting trent900 (Reply 11):
Its interesting they mention £40m on new shops but no other details on other investment. Where are they going to spend this kind of money on retail? Surly terminal space has already been used.

The whole thing is STN can save money by closing down and scrapping everything a Ryanair passenger, like me, doesn't want to pay for or just don't need. I use STN for connections only, not as arriving or departing passenger, but the whole point of flying as cheap as possible is to remove all amenities, also in a terminal. Just bring a book and wait until boarding starts, not so difficult is it?

Airports also have to adapt to the low cost culture if their largest clients are low cost.
 
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:30 am

Quoting KL911 (Reply 12):
the whole point of flying as cheap as possible is to remove all amenities, also in a terminal. Just bring a book and wait until boarding starts, not so difficult is it?

But that wouldn't work. If an airport is to discount landing charges but more commonly passenger facility charges to encourage more custom from more airlines or existing airlines more often, they must make up that aeronautical revenue shortfall elsewhere, i.e. from commercial or non-aeronautical revenues. A smaller airport, with little traffic throughput, may not be able to offer many facilities beyond the most basic, e.g. basic food-and-beverage, currency exchange, and news agency. But a major airport, like STN, does obviously have the traffic.

In any case, MAG has openly stated that they seek long-haul operators which they deem may be realistic if they can help achieve a 30-minute train connection to central London versus the present 45 minutes.
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:35 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 13):
MAG has openly stated that they seek long-haul operators which they deem may be realistic if they can help achieve a 30-minute train connection to central London versus the present 45 minutes.

Can you account for why LGW already having a 30 minute connection fails in this enterprise? They're not going to get sustainable long haul beyond perhaps Emirates if MAG strike a good deal. The market cannot, has not and will not support that enterprise given the proximity and critical mass of Heathrow.
 
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:03 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 14):
Can you account for why LGW already having a 30 minute connection fails in this enterprise? They're not going to get sustainable long haul beyond perhaps Emirates if MAG strike a good deal. The market cannot, has not and will not support that enterprise given the proximity and critical mass of Heathrow.

I simply reported what I had read in The Times. I have little motivation in debating such a matter as it's not my area of interest.

[Edited 2013-03-02 05:09:32]
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:26 pm

I'll that as a "no" then.
 
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RE: BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013

Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:47 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 16):

Take it however you want. If I were interested in long-haul operations from LGW and STN I'd happily debate it.
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