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Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:30 pm

I stumbled upon this photo of a Qantas 737 at Opa Locka:


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Why would Qantas have bothered to fly this plane all the way to Opa Locka?
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:49 pm

Maybe they bought it for parts....
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:09 pm

The key point here is, it's an ex-Qantas 737. It no longer belongs to Qantas, they didn't fly it to OPF.

It was sold over a year ago to ASL Aviation Group. So you'll have to ask them why they flew it to OPF.
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:13 pm

Quoting gulfstream650 (Thread starter):
Why would Qantas have bothered to fly this plane all the way to Opa Locka?

Perhaps that's where the owner of the a/c wished to have it ferried to. The owner of the a/c is listed as the Bank Of Utah.
 
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:43 pm

Quoting gulfstream650 (Thread starter):
I stumbled upon this photo of a Qantas 737 at Opa Locka:

I thought I read somewhere some of these QF 734's were being converted to freighters?
 
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:51 pm

Quoting gulfstream650 (Thread starter):
I stumbled upon this photo of a Qantas 737 at Opa Locka:

Last September I saw a QF 734 at MIA as well. It kind of made me sad seeing it devoid of titles etc. as I must have flown on the entire QF 734 fleet many, many times.
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:07 am

Could be awaiting dismantling for parts or repurposing - either to some other airline as a passenger plane (not so likely) or conversion at nearby MIA. It also looks like this aircraft went first to VCV after leaving QF and was later ferried to OPF. This aircraft has an interesting history too - in that it was not delivered new to QF but was originally delivered to the now-defunct Air Nauru (the descendant of which is now called "Our Airline").
 
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:31 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 5):
Last September I saw a QF 734 at MIA as well. It kind of made me sad seeing it devoid of titles etc. as I must have flown on the entire QF 734 fleet many, many times.

It's certainly a sad sighting, unfortunately in today's competitive market the retirement of these birds is over due...
I flew this week on a QF B734 to BNE & B738 on the return leg to SYD both in J/C... The product offerings are not consistent, I had a work bench which wasn't to bad but the seating was pretty cramped & nil cabin divider from J to Y... The B738 has nice spacious seating & cabin divider...
To keep up with VA or a step ahead of the game so to speak the retirement of the remaining 10 frames couldn't come any sooner...

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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:02 am

Quoting HLZCPH (Reply 4):
I thought I read somewhere some of these QF 734's were being converted to freighters?

Yes. And that at Miami, just around the corner. Probably just parked until going there. This plane is from 1993, quite old for conversion, but still useful. 734s are currently the most desirable classic 737s especially for conversion so it seems, most others versions of the same age, and for sure 3 in 4 735s, only know one way - the torch.
 
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:12 am

This aircraft is a B737-4L7 26961/2517 which was delivered new to Air Nauru (now "Our Airline") from the Pacific Island nation, the Republic of Nauru on 27 Aug 1993 as C2-RN11. It was leased to Qantas, Australia as VH-TJW on 20 Jun 1995 and named "Sharing" (later re-named "Strahan" on 13 Sep 2003). On 15 Feb 2012 it was WFU by Qantas and ferried into storage at Victorville, CA. On 10 Aug 2012 it was sold to the ASL Group, Miami for conversion to a freighter, and stored at Opa Locka.
 
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:56 pm

AF also sends from time to time their old A320 out to Opa Locka.
I suppose the price they give for parts justifies the ferry flight cost...
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:54 pm

Quoting airproxx (Reply 10):
AF also sends from time to time their old A320 out to Opa Locka

The last AF A320 parted out @ OPF was the one they used out of MIA for thier Caribbean ops.
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:22 pm

Quoting EK413 (Reply 7):
I had a work bench which wasn't to bad but the seating was pretty cramped & nil cabin divider from J to Y

Oh I definitely agree, their interiors are pretty ratty. J is obviously subpar, but even Y is much scabbier than the 73H fleet.

It is time for these aircraft to move on, but I will miss them in a perverse way. Flying to CBR (aka 734 city) just won't be the same anymore!
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:39 am

Quoting gulfstream650 (Thread starter):
Why would Qantas have bothered to fly this plane all the way to Opa Locka?

Wouldn't you want to retire in Florida?   

I think it's probably destined for scrap as the ex-QF 734s that have a future are undergoing work on the north side of MIA. They're being kept company by ex-US 734s as well as NK A319s and VX A320s being prepped for entry into service.
 
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:25 am

Most of CP's DC-8-43s were sold to an OPF-based company when they were retired around 1980.

The aircraft below, CF-CPG, was the DC-8 that made the famous slightly supersonic dive from 52,000 ft. on a Douglas test flight prior to delivery in 1961. Photo is dated 1980 soon after it was retired. It never flew again and was scrapped about a year later. Looks like somone had a use for the Rolls-Royce Conway engines.



And the same aircraft a little later with a few more missing parts.

http://www.airlines-airliners.de/fotoserien/cp_air/cf_cpg_2.jpg

And at the time of its supersonic flight August 21, 1961.

 
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:01 am

As I said in my earlier post, it is going to be converted to a freighter by the ASL Group. They've already converted 3 other
ex Qantas B737-400s to freighters (VH-TJH now N120BT, VH-TJO now EI-STB, and VH-TJU now EI-STC)
 
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:16 am

Quoting HLZCPH (Reply 4):
I thought I read somewhere some of these QF 734's were being converted to freighters?

Not sure about that. Makes more sense to convert a 733 I thought. Less empty weight.
 
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:42 pm

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 13):
They're being kept company by ex-US 734s

With so many younger jobless 737s (the whole fleets of Batavia, Webjet and Dniproavia, together about 50 frames, plus a dozen from SAS, Rossiya and others, all in the past 3 months alone), most of those late 80s-built US-734s are clearly too old for conversion, and too tired for anything else also. As much as I can find out they are there before being ferried to the deserts to be finished off. Some have already made that journey in the past weeks

Quoting thegeek (Reply 16):
Not sure about that. Makes more sense to convert a 733 I thought. Less empty weight.

Currently more 734s are being converted than 733s.

Quoting Jetstar315 (Reply 15):
As I said in my earlier post, it is going to be converted to a freighter by the ASL Group.

Right. That answers and virtually closes the thread.
 
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:59 pm

Quoting na (Reply 17):

Exactly. My question has been answered.
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RE: Why Bother To Fly Qantas 737 To Opa Locka?

Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:03 pm

Quoting thegeek (Reply 16):
Not sure about that. Makes more sense to convert a 733 I thought. Less empty weight.

While it is true the 733 has less empty weight, the 734 does have a non-trivial advantage in payload volume, and according to this article, weight as well: http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....e-xml/awx_10_30_2012_p0-511334.xml
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