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Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:17 am

Good morning and a very happy St. Patrick's Day to you all!

Here's the previous thread:
Irish 3/13: Winging It ... (by kaitak Feb 26 2013 in Civil Aviation)

It's been quite an interesting few weeks and the previous thread saw a number of interesting developments:
- Ryanair's bid to buy out EI officially/formally rejected by EU
- Aer Lingus's proposal to acquire 757s for transatlantic operations
- New routes: Dublin - Bremen (FR) and Amsterdam to Belfast (KL)
- Ryanair to buy 200 more 738s
- Government launches consultation on new national aviation policy
- SAS flying 717s to Dublin

The Summer season starts within the next fortnight, so we should see a significant increase in new flights, if not a significant increase in sunshine!

There is (apparently) a significant routes-related announcement due today, according to Routesonline; hopefully something significant ...
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:41 am

Lets start the new thread with a rather funny story

'Did he have his passport? Arizona bound dog put on flight to IRELAND!'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ght-IRELAND.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Airports: SNN GWY NOC DUB ORK BOS EWR JFK ORD MCI BOI SEA LHR STN CDG LYS FAO GVA HKG MEL ADL HBA
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:01 am

Lá Fhéile Pádraig sona daoibh! / Happy St Patricks Day everyone.  

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A nice video of the events at Dublin Airport over the last few days. They really did put on a good show. Obviously the best was in T2 with T1 being the place that it is they did their best but its really tired looking.

http://youtu.be/ClrbENiprCI
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:16 am

Happy St. Patrick's Day to you all from Cork!

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
SAS flying 717s to Dublin

What??? Where did they get them from?? Hope to see one at Cork if there will ever be a diversion  
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:33 am

Quoting KL911 (Reply 3):
Happy St. Patrick's Day to you all from Cork!

Agus tu fein.

Quoting KL911 (Reply 3):
What??? Where did they get them from?? Hope to see one at Cork if there will ever be a diversion  

From the last thread I posted that Blue1 will be operating some of the SK flights from the 1st April. They use the B717 so great news for DUB.
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:49 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):
From the last thread I posted that Blue1 will be operating some of the SK flights from the 1st April. They use the B717 so great news for DUB.

Ok, thanks, that makes sense. Good news.

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
There is (apparently) a significant routes-related announcement due today, according to Routesonline; hopefully something significant ...

I guess it is Dublin? Although of course I keep my fingers crossed for Cork  
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:05 am

As of flight radar 24 a world airways md-11 has just taken off from DUB with an unknown destination N271WA is the reg . Can anyone explain this ??
Dún Na Ngall Abú!
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:04 am

Looks like it is heading to IAD.
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:35 am

Quoting irishair98 (Reply 6):
As of flight radar 24 a world airways md-11 has just taken off from DUB with an unknown destination N271WA is the reg . Can anyone explain this ??

It arrived on the morning of the 17th and departed that night to IAD and IND - no doubt connected with St. Patrick's Day festivities.
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:48 am

Quoting irish251 (Reply 8):
It arrived on the morning of the 17th and departed that night to IAD and IND - no doubt connected with St. Patrick's Day festivities.

Maybe a charter. There were some quite large bands some with over 200 at the DUB parade.
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:33 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 9):
Maybe a charter. There were some quite large bands some with over 200 at the DUB parade.

On that topic:

How did the Mayor of San Fransisco fly into Ireland for the Cork parade?
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:34 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 10):

The Mayor was in New York before Ireland so there are a few options.
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:10 pm

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
The Summer season starts within the next fortnight, so we should see a significant increase in new flights,

Here's one:

Tarom Romanian starting May 01, three weekly Wed Fri Sun, Bucharest-Dublin B737

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OTP 21:30 – 23:30 DUB
DUB 00:20 – 6:05 OTP
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:14 pm

Any announcement by FR yet with regards to the new order?
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:29 pm

Quoting connector4you (Reply 12):

Nice to see RO back in DUB.
COYBIB
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:50 pm

Quoting eicvd (Reply 14):
Nice to see RO back in DUB.

Yes, not that we'll be doing much "seeing" at that hour; I mean, I know they come from a country that includes Transylvania (and linking with the home town of Bram Stoker), but that's a poor excuse for some very unsocial hours of flying! Are they afraid their cabin crews will turn to dust if they see daylight in Dublin!?
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:05 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 15):
Yes, not that we'll be doing much "seeing" at that hour; I mean, I know they come from a country that includes Transylvania (and linking with the home town of Bram Stoker), but that's a poor excuse for some very unsocial hours of flying! Are they afraid their cabin crews will turn to dust if they see daylight in Dublin!?

LMAO   That was very funny.  

Indeed RO back and EI gone off the route. Still nice to see err or imagine RO metal at DUB  
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:17 pm

UA will invert the flight numbers of its EWR services to SNN and DUB from 7th June. BFS gets a new pair of flight numbers. There will be no changes to the ORD-SNN and IAD-DUB flight numbers as of yet.

- UA22 (EWR-DUB) switches to UA23 and vice versa
- UA24 (EWR-SNN) switches to UA25 and vice versa
- UA94 (EWR-BFS) becomes UA77 and UA95 (BFS-EWR) becomes UA76
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:23 pm

Quoting ORKCC (Reply 13):

14.15 tomorrow...
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:08 pm

 
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:12 pm

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 19):
1st visit to DUB of an A320 with Sharklets
http://www.irishairpics.com/photo/10...=&sp=

Nice . Reminds me of a TU-204  
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:30 pm

UA accidently send a dog bound for Phoenix to SNN:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/15/us/new-jersey-dog-gone
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:02 am

Did EI do an extra DUB - BOS flight today as EI138 operated by DAA is this just for the saint Patrick's weekend ?
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:46 am

So here it is :

Ryanair has signed a deal with Boeing to buy 175 new Next Generation 737-800 airplanes.
The airline said that when finalised, the deal will be worth nearly $15.6 billion at current list prices.
Ryanair said the purchase will allow its airline to grow to more than 400 airplanes.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013...deal-to-buy-175-new-boeing-planes/

Also Boeings statement on the order :

NEW YORK, March 19, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) is delighted that Ryanair has announced a commitment today to order 175 Next-Generation 737-800s for the airline's fleet expansion. When finalized, the agreement will be worth $15.6 billion at list prices and will be posted to the Boeing Orders & Deliveries website as a firm order.
"This agreement is an amazing testament to the value that the Next-Generation 737 brings to Ryanair," said Boeing Commercial Airplanes President & CEO Ray Conner.

http://www.sys-con.com/node/2583664

Congrats to both FR and Boeing. Always nice to see a big order like this.

[Edited 2013-03-19 03:01:13]
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:08 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 23):

Wow! Well, let the speculation begin then as to where these new aircraft will be going in terms of new bases?

Scandinavia to take on DY has to be a contender, as well as rumoured new Russian services?
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:39 pm

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 24):

Not to sure about that, it would be SK more so than DY and Scandinavia in general is a hard market to crack if your not based there. I expect some of the aircraft will go eastren and southern Europe and maybe a little further than Europe.
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:49 pm

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 24):
Wow! Well, let the speculation begin then as to where these new aircraft will be going in terms of new bases?

Id expect Greece/Cyprus and North Africa over time.
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:52 pm

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 24):
Wow! Well, let the speculation begin then as to where these new aircraft will be going in terms of new bases?

Scandinavia to take on DY has to be a contender, as well as rumoured new Russian services?

Well the press release quotes 100 million pax rather than the previous FR number of 120M......so perhaps Russia and/or Israel are of the table? Or maybe the 120M was planned to include EI?
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:05 pm

According to local news the San Fransisco mayor wants to have a direct flight between Cork and California. The only direct link I can see in the future are the EMC jets at ORK  
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:40 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 26):
Id expect Greece/Cyprus and North Africa over time

All those markets seem fairly weak at present and into the near future, so it will be interesting to see where FR can place any new aircraft. Doubtless, as in the past existing aircraft will be disposed of, but the market is much less advantageous now, with many relatively young narrowbodies going for scrapping.
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:09 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 28):

According to local news the San Fransisco mayor wants to have a direct flight between Cork and California. The only direct link I can see in the future are the EMC jets at ORK  

They might want to see if they can get an East coast service going first. Doubt anyway if any current aircraft can do it direct given the runway length.
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:17 pm

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 24):
Wow! Well, let the speculation begin then as to where these new aircraft will be going in terms of new bases?

Not new bases, but when announcing the Eindhoven and Maastricht bases last year MOL told the press that there were many more routes researched and approved but that FR just didnt have the planes for it.

I do believe that both EIN and MST can sustain more routes, there are millions of potential pax in the area, and the trend is that Dutch- Belgian tourists go on many short holidays instead of a long one in summer.
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:23 pm

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 29):
All those markets seem fairly weak at present

On the flip side of the coin for some airlines its a buyers market. Ideal time to do deals.  
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:33 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 31):
I do believe that both EIN and MST can sustain more routes, there are millions of potential pax in the area, and the trend is that Dutch- Belgian tourists go on many short holidays instead of a long one in summer.

The Dutch do love a bargain, and I'm frankly very surprised that Ryanair dont have a very substantial base in the country somewhere. It would make their legions of Dutch Pilots very happy also.

The problem with EIN is the operational restrictions that come with also being a military base - you get a certain allocation of slots, and getting any extra for positioning flights etc etc is difficult if not impossible. This really does not lend itself to establishment of a base.

MST is a small airport in terms of pax facilities, and could not acomodate a large base without significant expansion.
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:48 pm

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 33):
MST is a small airport in terms of pax facilities, and could not acomodate a large base without significant expansion.

I doubt that pax faciities would deter FR......."overblown shopping malls" I believe is the MoL term for modern airport terminals
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:07 pm

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 34):
I doubt that pax faciities would deter FR......."overblown shopping malls" I believe is the MoL term for modern airport terminals

MST is so "bijou", it would possibly cause delays if there were any more than 2 aircraft there at once. Delays are something that MOL cares about  

That said, a tent would surely suffice.......
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:22 pm

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 33):
The problem with EIN is the operational restrictions that come with also being a military base - you get a certain allocation of slots, and getting any extra for positioning flights etc etc is difficult if not impossible. This really does not lend itself to establishment of a base.

MST is a small airport in terms of pax facilities, and could not acomodate a large base without significant expansion.

EIN is expanding rapidly, with a large terminal expansion well underway, with on top of the terminal a hotel with 120 rooms almost ready. HV has a base there now as well with 3 737s .
 
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:00 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 36):
EIN is expanding rapidly, with a large terminal expansion well underway, with on top of the terminal a hotel with 120 rooms almost ready. HV has a base there now as well with 3 737s .

It's a very well equipped airport, but a bit of a pain in the ass to deal with at times.
 
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Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:09 am

Quoting KL911 (Reply 28):

According to local news the San Fransisco mayor wants to have a direct flight between Cork and California. The only direct link I can see in the future are the EMC jets at ORK

It seems like the Mayor of San Fransisco has the same airline acumen as our friends over on the Cork Thread on anotherr forum.
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Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:02 am

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 38):
It seems like the Mayor of San Fransisco has the same airline acumen as our friends over on the Cork Thread on anotherr forum.

Low blow there BW.............


.....not that it aint the truth though.
 
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Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:08 am

Good news for BFS . Hopefully they can maintain this kind of traffic for 2013.

Also interesting article about Indian carriers.

European airports woo Indian airlines

European airports are wooing Indian airlines in the wake of intense competition from aviation hubs such as Dubai and Doha.

Now, airports in Europe, including those in Amsterdam, Dublin, London, Gatwick and Munich, are luring Indian airlines to start direct services. Representatives from these cities met Air India and Jet Airways executives at the Routes Asia conference here over the past two days.

http://www.business-standard.com/art...ndian-carriers-113031900284_1.html

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Latest passenger figures leave airport flying high

BELFAST International Airport was the second best performing airport in the UK last year - despite the contentious defection of Irish flag-carrier Aer Lingus to Belfast City after five years flying from Aldergrove.
Figures from the Civil Aviation Authority show that the International Airport enjoyed a 5 per cent passenger increase - 215,000 in real terms - in 2012, pipped only by Aberdeen (8 per cent) but ahead of Manchester with a 4.5 per cent increase.

http://www.irishnews.com/business/la...-leave-airport-flying-high-1240468
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:42 pm

DUB-CLT route will now operate until 6 October.
SNN-PHL route will now operate until 5 October.

Both were due to stop early September. Good News!
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:22 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 41):

Great news! US seem to have the most competitive prices on transatlantic from Shannon so far for this summer. Glad to see it's working for them and a good sign for the future of SNN-PHL. Also DUB-CLT which was rumoured not to be doing so great.

Did anyone see this on YouTube? Comical and a bit disturbing at the same time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rseh4Bf8xJ0
 
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Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:26 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 42):
Also DUB-CLT which was rumoured not to be doing so great.

I saw these rumours on an earlier thread I think, seems unfounded TBH, the CLT flight always seemed to be doing well during the summer months, lots of onward transfers, MCO especially. It did have the usual slow start in May and then drop off coming close to season end in Sept but apart from that I always seen healthy loads on it.
 
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Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:31 am

Quoting EireRock (Reply 43):

It was the US Airways CEO who make the comments last year, the problem is they expected more O&D traffic, its flights had good loads but fares were weak.
 
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Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:21 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 45):
Ryanair to operate twice weekly Shannon-Alicante route between 5 June and 27 September.

Ryanair seem to be the only game in town for new continental routes for SNN.
Hope this relationship does not sour as quickly as past arrangements. Be interesting to see what concessions were offered.
 
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Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:33 pm

AF / Cityjet have launched a new fare DUB-LCY with a min 2 night stay for EUR109 all in including taxes. Thats a bit more like it .

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Ulster airport worker sacked over Girls Aloud picture

Devastated ex-City of Derry airport worker Alex Duffy has revealed that his life is on the skids after being pictured with the jet-setting singer in the security area and posting it on the social networking site.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/su...-girls-aloud-picture-29137056.html

Just goes to show people need to be more careful when they do these things on duty especially in a security area. Tough lesson to learn though.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:52 pm

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 46):
Ryanair seem to be the only game in town for new continental routes for SNN.

Aer Lingus recently added Shannon-Faro...

Alicante is a great addition to the continuing success of SNN's new routes for 2013. That's five new routes to be introduced this year (ORD, PHL, FAO, GLA, ALC). Hopefully more to come! I have to wonder if SNN-ALC can co-exist with KIR-ALC which was recently announced to be upgraded to 3x weekly during the peak summer months.

http://www.shannonairport.ie/gns/abo...o_its_Shannon_summer_schedule.aspx

http://www.ryanair.com/ie/news/ryana...ches-new-shannon-route-to-alicante

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Aer Lingus Regional flight RE3843 (BRS-ORK) was diverted to KIR this afternoon due to strong crosswinds. This has in turn delayed the turnaround to BHX (RE3706).
 
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Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:53 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 48):
Aer Lingus Regional flight RE3843 (BRS-ORK) was diverted to KIR this afternoon due to strong crosswinds. This has in turn delayed the turnaround to BHX (RE3706).

The weather in Cork has been terrible all afternoon, after rain in the morning the wind picked up, with some rally nasty gusts.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:00 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 49):
The weather in Cork has been terrible all afternoon, after rain in the morning the wind picked up, with some rally nasty gusts.

Yep same here also . Supposed to last over the weekend. Im sure it will disrupt some flights especially in the North.

Weather alert - Northern Ireland braced for drifting snow, gales and rain

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...ill-sweeps-across-uk-29145454.html

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