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Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:56 pm

Probably I'm the uninformed guy of the school with this ( not the first time ), but I had no idea about the existence of C-130 frames flying as civil aircraft, I always had the impression the Hercules was only operated by Military Forces, Coast Guard, etc. Here is a video of a LYNDEN Air Cargo flying in formation between the mountains in Alaska.

( By the way, that flight looks REALLY CLOSE sometimes  Wow!  Wow!  Wow! )

Are there any other company operating the type as a freighter ( or any civilian use ) somewhere ?


Video here :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcUOLmUfNl8

Thanks in advance !!

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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:00 pm

Yeah, there is a number of L100s (civilian C-130s) that fly around. Lynden is a major operator of them and I know their are a few others that fly for the UN and such!
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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:02 pm

Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter):
Are there any other company operating the type as a freighter ( or any civilian use ) somewhere ?

I don't know how many civilian L-100's are out there these days, but they certainly did exist. DL even had a few as freighters in the '60's...


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I even once saw a picture of one that had windows on the side for a pax cabin, but I don't know if I can find that picture now...
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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:03 pm

Delta Air Lines and Pacific Western Airlines, for example:


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And here is a real oddball, a passenger version of the L100 Herc:


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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:04 pm

Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter):
I had no idea about the existence of C-130 frames flying as civil aircraft

Alaska has had a few of these:


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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:12 pm

Quoting longhauler (Reply 3):
And here is a real oddball, a passenger version of the L100 Herc:

Thank you for finding that pic; I had it saved on my computer, but was still looking for it in the database when you posted  
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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:22 pm

Quoting longhauler (Reply 3):
And here is a real oddball, a passenger version of the L100 Herc:

Wow, that is a rare bird !!!! Was this the only one with windows ??

Thanks to all for the pictures and information !!

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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:30 pm

These C130's are the life blood for parts and supplies for the north alaskian oil field once the ice road has melted.
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:39 pm

Quoting cbphoto (Reply 1):
Yeah, there is a number of L100s (civilian C-130s) that fly around. Lynden is a major operator of them and I know their are a few others

First Air in Canada has been operating civil L-100s for many years. They currently have two.


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One is ex-Pacific Western Airlines. They acquired several in the 1960s/70s and operated them on charter services all over the world. The other First Air aircraft was acquired from South African cargo operator Safar a few years ago.

One of the First Air aircraft landing on an ice runway on a frozen lake in Canada's north, probably at a mine exploration site.
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DL briefly operated 6 in the late '60s/early '70s.


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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:57 pm

Lynden occasionally wanders down to the lower 48 and flies some ad hoc freight. Talked to their pilots here and there, seems like a really good group of guys. Fly all over the world in those things, such a versatile airplane. Great video!
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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:15 am

Quoting tb727 (Reply 9):
Lynden occasionally wanders down to the lower 48 and flies some ad hoc freight. Talked to their pilots here and there, seems like a really good group of guys. Fly all over the world in those things, such a versatile airplane. Great video!

About 2 years ago, DL had an MD-88 at Grand Caman that needed an engine change. They hired Lynden to fly to ATL, pick up the replacement engine, fly it to Grand Caman, and fly the old engine back to ATL.

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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:04 am

Quoting N747PE (Reply 7):
These C130's are the life blood for parts and supplies for the north alaskian oil field once the ice road has melted.

Now that you mention the Ice roads, the other day I was watching Flying Wild Alaska ( Discovery Theater HD ), and I laughed for about ten minutes after one of the pilots doing a difficult landing said : " Mothers of the ice truckers don't give them permission to come here ".. 

I would pay a thousand dollars to see the face of the History Channel's manager hearing that !!!  

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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:31 am

There have been quite a few Herk operators in Alaska.

Right now the only current one is Lyndon. As mentioned they fly up here, they do a bunch of flying down in New Guinea and do a bunch of charter work.

Other previous operators up here where Red Ball Avaition, Alaska International Air (AIA), Markair and the aforemention Alaska Airlines. Alaska got rid of these when Bruce Kennedy started to clean up shop after Charles Willis was forced out in the early 1970's. They where bought for pipeline work and the delays meant payments the airline couldn't afford at the time.

AIA was the big operator up here during the pipeline construction. Somewhere there is a photo of a 2nd grade L-188 sitting in the pilots seat. They ended up getting asorbed by Markair which operated them until Niel Berght drove them into the ground in 93.

Just as and FYI, the stretched -30 L-100 and C-130's where orginially developed as a civilian airlifter. Lockheed streatched them long enough so that they would be able to hold three complete RB.211 engines, oddly enough the same number of motors that needed to be installed on the L-1011 Tristar. The plane was intened to be the prime mover to bring those engines over from england for the production line. The original C-130 was intended to be the same size as a 40' boxcar, which was a pretty common railcar size back then.

BTW, Prudhoe isn't dependent on the 130, the road is open year long albeit with lower permissiable weights.
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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:08 am

Hercs are by no means the life blood of rural Alaska, Lynden is the only operator and their Hercs only show up here occasionally for outsized jobs. My dear friend's husband has flown Hercs for Lynden for 35 years and the bulk of his work is in New Guinea and SE Asia in support of oil field construction and support. He rotates in and out of flying down there and flies very little in Alaska. The lifeblood of rural Alaska is still Evert's DC-6s and DC-9-30Fs and NAC's 732s and to a lesser extent Evert's C-46s. We do see the Lynden Hercs up here every now and then but its not an every day thing!
 
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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:02 am

Continental also flew C-130 in Southeast Asia for the CIA


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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:41 am

Air Algerie has operated one as 7T-VHL, as recently as August 2012 (based on the A.net photo database).

A photo on another site shows it landing at CDG on March 4th, 2013. It's fair to assume that it's still active.

Saw it in person at ALG in 2009, impressive sight.


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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:43 am

Quoting malaysia (Reply 14):
Continental also flew C-130 in Southeast Asia for the CIA

Yep, but not for very long apparently:

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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:57 am

Out of interest: how many of these are still flying, and what is the actual replacement for these birds?

Anyone in the know if Airbus is shopping the A400M / Lookheed the C-130J as civilian versions to clients? Or are the IL-76 still the replacement of choice to date?
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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:33 pm

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 17):
Out of interest: how many of these are still flying, and what is the actual replacement for these birds?

The passenger L-100 is still around, apparently.


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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:28 am

Well a bit off topic, SV had some C-130 but they were Royal Flight equipment though
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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:50 am

Quoting malaysia (Reply 19):
Well a bit off topic, SV had some C-130 but they were Royal Flight equipment though

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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:14 pm

I thnik there is a South African airline airline also running L-100's around or as least they used too. I thought the name was SAFAIR
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RE: Civilian C130 Hércules Freighter In Alaska (Video)

Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:39 pm

Quoting DALCA (Reply 21):
I thnik there is a South African airline also running L-100's around or as least they used too. I thought the name was SAFAIR

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Safair's website says they're the largest operator of civil Hercules with a current fleet of 8 L-100-30s.
http://www.safair.co.za/fleet
http://www.safair.co.za/fleet/hercules-L100-30