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OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:46 pm

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WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Non-daily operations create fractional weekly service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. If a flight operated 5 days out of 7, it would show 0.8 flights.

WHY ARE THERE WEIRD FREQUENCIES AT Macedonian Airlines (Greece)">IN FAR AWAY MONTHS FOR LCCs?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. Their schedules may also end mid-month. If B6 loads their schedule until Jan15, all flights in Janaury will show half frequency because of the way the report is created.

WHY IS A WHOLE AIRLINE'S SCHEDULE SHOWN AS CHANGING FOR A FUTURE MONTH?
Similarly to the previous question, some airlines load their schedule from nothing inside the 9 month window of this report. When their schedule is extended it will show as new service because there was no previous schedule to compare to. In some instances I will show a more valid comparison against another period.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE PINNACLE
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THE FREQUENCY DOESN'T SHOW A CHANGE, E.G. 4>4
This happens as a result of rounding. There is a change in service that is large enough to be listed, but through rounding it does not appear.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

Is this related to the new Brazil bilateral options?
*AA DFW-GRU JUN 1.0>1.4 JUL 1.0>1.7 AUG 1.0>1.4
*AA DFW-HMO JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0
*AA DFW-ZCL JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.5 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.4 NOV 0>0.4
*AA ORD-PDX JUN 0>1.3 JUL 0>2 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2

AM IAH-MEX APR 4>3 MAY 4>3
*AM LAS-PPE JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3 NOV 0>0.3
AM LAX-GDL APR 1.6>1.4

AS HNL-OAK SEP 1.0>0.5 OCT 1.0>0.5 NOV 1.0>0.6
AS HNL-SJC SEP 1.0>0.6 OCT 1.0>0.5 NOV 1.0>0.7
AS PDX-GEG JUN 7>8 JUL 7>8 AUG 7>8 SEP 7>8 OCT 7>8 NOV 7>8
AS PDX-MFR JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5

AT JFK-CMN JUL 1.7>1.6

B6 BOS-LAS JUL 3>2.0 AUG 3>2.0
B6 BOS-RDU JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5
B6 FLL-HPN JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2
B6 FLL-NAS JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
B6 JFK-LRM JUL 0.3>0.5 AUG 0.3>0.4
Wow,up to 3! LOL
*B6 JFK-ORD JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
B6 JFK-SFO JUL 4>3
B6 JFK-STI MAY 6>5
B6 LGB-PDX JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
B6 LGB-SEA JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
*B6 MCO-BOG JUN 1.0>1.4 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>1.6
B6 PBI-SJU AUG 1.0>0.9
*B6 SJU-PUJ JUN 1.0>1.4 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2 SEP 1.0>1.1
*B6 SJU-STX JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2
*B6 SJU-SXM JUN 1.0>1.4 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2 SEP 1.0>1.1
B6 TPA-SJU SEP 1.9>1.8

DL ATL-BRU OCT 1.0>0.9
DL ATL-DUB SEP 1.0>0.7 OCT 1.0>0.8
DL ATL-DUS SEP 1.0>0.7 OCT 1.0>0.7
DL ATL-HSV MAY 9>8
DL ATL-MGM SEP 10>9
DL ATL-PDX JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4
DL ATL-SFO JUL 9>8
DL ATL-STR SEP 1.0>0.9
DL ATL-ZRH SEP 1.0>0.9
*DL CVG-MSN MAY 1.7>0.8
*DL CVG-YYZ MAY 3>1.5 JUN 1.8>1.5
DL DTW-CMH SEP 7>8
DL DTW-EWR MAY 7>6
DL JFK-PHX AUG 1.5>1.0

G4 ABE-MYR AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.2
G4 ABE-PIE AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 ABE-SFB SEP 1.0>0.6 OCT 1.0>0.5 NOV 1.0>0.6
G4 ATW-AZA AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 ATW-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AVL-SFB SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 AVP-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-BLI SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 AZA-BZN AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-DLH AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-HNL AUG 0.4>0.2 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0 NOV 0.4>0
G4 AZA-MFR AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-MSO SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 AZA-OAK SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 AZA-PSC SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 AZA-RST AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-STC AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 BGR-PIE SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 BLI-LAX AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 BLI-OAK AUG 0.9>0.6 SEP 0.9>0.4 OCT 0.8>0.4 NOV 0.9>0.4
G4 BLI-PSP SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 BLI-SAN AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 BLV-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 BOI-HNL SEP 0.2>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.1>0
G4 CHA-PIE SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 CHA-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 COS-LAS AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 CPR-LAS AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 DSM-LAX AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 EUG-HNL SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.2>0
G4 EUG-LAS AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 EUG-OAK SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 FAR-LAX AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FAR-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FAT-HNL AUG 0.3>0.1 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0 NOV 0.3>0
G4 FAT-LAS SEP 0.9>0.6 OCT 0.8>0.5 NOV 0.9>0.6
G4 FCA-OAK AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FLL-GSP SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 FLL-HTS AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FLL-PBG SEP 0.7>0.3 OCT 0.7>0.3 NOV 0.7>0.3
G4 FSD-LAS AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.4
G4 FSD-LAX AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FSD-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FWA-MYR AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 GEG-HNL SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.2>0
G4 GFK-LAS AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 GFK-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 GJT-LAX AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 GSO-SFB AUG 0.3>0.2 SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 GSP-PIE AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 GTF-LAS AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 GYY-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 HGR-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 HNL-LAS SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 HNL-SCK AUG 0.2>0.1
G4 HNL-SMX AUG 0.2>0.1
G4 HTS-MYR SEP 0.3>0.2
G4 HTS-PIE AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 HTS-SFB AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 IAG-PGD AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 IAG-PIE SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 IAG-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1 SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 ICT-LAX AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 IDA-LAX AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 IDA-OAK AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 LAN-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-HNL SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 LAS-LRD AUG 0.9>0.6 SEP 0.9>0.4 OCT 0.8>0.3 NOV 0.9>0.3
G4 LAS-MFE AUG 1.3>0.9 SEP 1.3>0.8 OCT 1.3>0.5 NOV 1.3>0.6
G4 LAS-PSC SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 LAS-SCK SEP 1.3>0.9 OCT 1.2>0.8 NOV 1.3>0.9
G4 LAS-SGF AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 LAS-SHV AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 LAS-SMX SEP 0.6>0.4
G4 LAX-MFR AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 LAX-MSO AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 LAX-SGF AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 LAX-XNA AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 LCK-SFB SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 LEX-SFB AUG 1.0>0.7 SEP 1.0>0.6 OCT 1.0>0.5 NOV 1.0>0.6
G4 LRD-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MDT-SFB AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 MFE-SFB AUG 0.7>0.3 SEP 0.7>0 OCT 0.7>0 NOV 0.7>0
G4 MLI-PIE AUG 0.3>0.2
G4 MLI-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MSO-OAK AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MYR-YNG SEP 0.5>0.2
G4 OWB-SFB SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 PBG-PGD AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PBG-PIE AUG 0.4>0.2
G4 PBG-SFB AUG 0.9>0.6 SEP 0.8>0.3 OCT 0.8>0.3 NOV 0.9>0.3
G4 PGD-RFD AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PGD-TOL AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PHF-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PIA-PIE SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 PIE-ROA AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PIE-SGF SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 PIE-TOL AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PIE-TYS NOV 0.6>0.4
G4 RFD-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 SCK-HNL SEP 0.2>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.1>0
G4 SFB-SGF SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 SFB-SHV AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 SFB-TOL AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 SFB-TYS SEP 1.0>0.6 OCT 1.0>0.5 NOV 1.0>0.6
G4 SFB-XNA AUG 0.5>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 SFB-YNG AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 SMX-HNL SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.2>0

GL AOQ-JUV APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3 NOV 0>0.3
GL KUZ-AGM APR 0>0.5 MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.4 NOV 0>0.3
GL SAE-IKE APR 0>0.1 JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.2 AUG 0>0.1 SEP 0>0.2 OCT 0>0.1 NOV 0>0.1
GL SAE-UMD APR 0>0.1 MAY 0>0.2 JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.2 AUG 0>0.1 SEP 0>0.1 OCT 0>0.2 NOV 0>0.1

LA LAX-LIM OCT 1.6>1.9

LR LAX-SAL APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0

MW HNL-JHM SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3
MW HNL-LNY SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2
MW HNL-MKK SEP 0>7 OCT 0>7 NOV 0>7
MW HNM-OGG SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2
MW JHM-HNL SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3
MW KOA-OGG SEP 0>15 OCT 0>14 NOV 0>15
MW LNY-HNL SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2
MW LNY-OGG SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0
MW MKK-HNL SEP 0>7 OCT 0>7 NOV 0>7
MW MKK-OGG SEP 0>7 OCT 0>7 NOV 0>7
MW OGG-HNM SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2
MW OGG-KOA SEP 0>15 OCT 0>14 NOV 0>15
MW OGG-LNY SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0
MW OGG-MKK SEP 0>7 OCT 0>7 NOV 0>7

NK DFW-MCO JUL 1.4>1.0 AUG 1.5>1.0

OZ EWR-SFO AUG 0.2>0.0
OZ HNL-ICN JUN 1.0>0.7 JUL 1.0>0.7 AUG 1.0>0.7
OZ ORD-ICN JUL 0.6>0.7 AUG 0.5>1.0 SEP 0.6>0.9 OCT 0.5>0.7 NOV 0.6>0.7
OZ SEA-ICN JUN 0.7>1.0 JUL 0.7>1.0 AUG 0.7>1.0
OZ SPN-HIJ MAY 0>0.1
OZ SPN-NRT MAY 0>0.2

SU IAD-SVO NOV 0>0.3
SU JFK-SVO OCT 1.7>2 NOV 0>2
SU LAX-SVO OCT 0.7>0.8 NOV 0>0.9
SU MIA-SVO NOV 0>0.4

SY DCA-LAN JUL 0>1.0
SY DFW-CUN SEP 0.0>0.6 OCT 0>0.6 NOV 0>0.6
SY LAN-MSP JUL 0>1.0
SY MSP-CUN SEP 0>0.1 OCT 0>0.1 NOV 0>0.2

TK IAH-IST JUL 0.6>0.9 AUG 0.6>0.8 SEP 0.6>0.9 OCT 0.5>0.8 NOV 0.6>0.9

US PHL-SJU AUG 4>3
US PHX-DRO JUN 2>3

Y4 LAX-CUL MAY 0.1>0 JUN 0.2>0 JUL 0.1>0 AUG 0.2>0 SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.2>0
Y4 LAX-MEX JUN 0.6>1.0 JUL 0.5>1.0 AUG 0.6>1.0 SEP 0.6>1.0 OCT 0.5>1.0 NOV 0.6>1.0
Y4 MCO-MEX APR 0.2>0.4 MAY 0.2>0.4
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:52 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*AM LAS-PPE JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3 NOV 0>0.3

Ha. Ok...somebody must be paying for this.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:59 pm

Were is UA? or they have not made any changes?
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:02 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
G4 EUG-HNL SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.2>0

Gone for good then? Also noticed BOI and GEG going down to 0...
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:03 pm

Quoting coreyrust (Reply 3):

Multiple cities pulled down to 0 or near zero. As far as I can tell, only BLI is untouched by this. BLI is also the only G4 city with OGG service, also appears to be untouched.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:27 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
NK DFW-MCO JUL 1.4>1.0 AUG 1.5>1.0

Wonder where that aircraft will go?
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:35 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
G4

With the conversion of all of the MDs to 166 seats completed it appears there is a lot of capacity adjustment happening.

Quoting coreyrust (Reply 3):
Gone for good then? Also noticed BOI and GEG going down to 0...
Quoting rgreenftm (Reply 4):
Multiple cities pulled down to 0 or near zero. As far as I can tell, only BLI is untouched by this. BLI is also the only G4 city with OGG service, also appears to be untouched.

Allegiant said to expect seasonal pulldowns for Hawaii from the smaller cities since they were seeing lower bookings in off periods than they expected.

Sept is the start of a slow season for Hawaii due to back-to-school.

I'd wait to see if the routes return post-Thanksgiving for Christmas/etc before attempting to interpret HNL routes being completely gone. But it is also possible some Hawaii routes may become summer only.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:11 pm

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 2):
Were is UA? or they have not made any changes?

No UA, WN or F9.... no fun this week for anyone at DEN.......

 
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:14 pm

Quoting point2point (Reply 7):

Same for IAH.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:28 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*AA DFW-HMO JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0

Interesting addition. HMO was one of the 13 unique destinations that US served from PHX that AA did not serve from any of its hubs. Now the number of unique destinations that AA/US will serve out of PHX drops to 12.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:13 pm

Don't laugh at the B6 JFK-ORD add!

It's been 3 for a while in the summer. The 2 for this upcoming year was bad.

Glad to see it back. Hoping a 3rd RDU and CLT also make an appearance for the busy summer season


B6 PBI-SJU AUG 1.0>0.9


I'll go out on a limb and predict that PBI will be the first city dropped from the new focus city in SJU.

Grapevine says the loads are worse than terrible.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:39 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
G4 AZA-HNL AUG 0.4>0.2 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0 NOV 0.4>0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
G4 BOI-HNL SEP 0.2>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.1>0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
G4 EUG-HNL SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.2>0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
G4 FAT-HNL AUG 0.3>0.1 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0 NOV 0.3>0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
G4 GEG-HNL SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.2>0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
G4 SCK-HNL SEP 0.2>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.1>0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
G4 SMX-HNL SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.2>0

As stated above G4 has said expect seasonal pull downs, but I also see this part of their 757 reliability issues. Maybe some time to do maintenance and inspect things. Has there been any info from G4 on what they plan to do with their 757's ?
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:53 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL CVG-MSN MAY 1.7>0.8
*DL CVG-YYZ MAY 3>1.5 JUN 1.8>1.5

Why is this interesting to you? It's a slight adjustment. Nothing too shocking to me.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
G4 AZA-HNL AUG 0.4>0.2 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0 NOV 0.4>0

Aaaaaaaand 757s, or G4 being so dang fickle out of AZA.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
OZ SPN-HIJ MAY 0>0.1

......Why is this here? Charter? or misfile?

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
US PHX-DRO JUN 2>3

Kinda odd to see this upgauged but anything positive is awesome in my books.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:30 am

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 10):

I think a 3rd JFK and BOS would be great for CLT. RDU is already served well
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:54 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Is this related to the new Brazil bilateral options?
*AA DFW-GRU JUN 1.0>1.4 JUL 1.0>1.7 AUG 1.0>1.4

AA has permission from Brazilian government to operate additional GRU frequencies beyond the bilateral during peak winter and peak summer.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:21 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 1):

Where is that? Hover over doesnt work on my phone.

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 2):

It was a light week. No idea why.

Quoting rgreenftm (Reply 4):
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 6):

I don't have a feel for the accuracy of what G4 sends to OAG/Innovata.

Quoting kcrwflyer (Reply 5):

They also dropped 1/2 trip to TLC I think. From what I've heard they are doing it to move something from a redeye to a daytime.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 12):

It hints that those spokes are probably nearing death.

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 14):

My guess is they think flying the maximum aids their case.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:29 am

Quoting enilria (Reply 15):
Where is that? Hover over doesnt work on my phone.

Puerto Penasco, Mexico, (was?) a big drive destination for AZ college students...
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:14 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
SU IAD-SVO NOV 0>0.3
SU JFK-SVO OCT 1.7>2 NOV 0>2
SU LAX-SVO OCT 0.7>0.8 NOV 0>0.9
SU MIA-SVO NOV 0>0.4

When does direct service to AER start?
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/22/2013: AA/B6/DL/UA

Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:59 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 15):
I don't have a feel for the accuracy of what G4 sends to OAG/Innovata.

I don't have a feel for that either. I do appreciate you including them in the updates since it provides a guide to their schedule plans.

But G4 sells over 90% of its bookings on its own website (and doesn't use OTAs or interline) so info accuracy on their own website is more important to them than what they file at Innovata. I usually use the website instead of other systems for verifying G4 scheduling info.

Right now on Allegiant's website the booking windows for all routes (even those routes with Nov schedules filed at Innovata) appear to only extend until Oct 29.

Until the G4 website booking window extends into Nov and Dec I think it is too early for people to try to judge if Allegiant has made a seasonal or permanent cancellation of Hawaii routes.
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