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LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:06 am

Lufthansa will be pulling out the Airbus A380 out of MIA and replacing it with the "Queen of the Skies" 747-400

The A380 will return to SFO starting tomorrow (3/31/13)

The A380 is set to return to MIA in October for the winter season.

[Edited 2013-03-29 21:09:27]
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Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:15 pm

Title is a bit misleading, pull is a seasonal change as always.
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LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:56 am

Quoting miaskies (Reply 1):

You're right, my mistake.
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LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:06 am

So how is LH deploying its A380s for the summer timetable? And how many are there in the fleet at the moment?

As far as I know the cities to be served by LH A380 in the summer are:
- New York (JFK) ... daily
- San Francisco... daily
- Houston (???) ... daily (???)
- Johannesburg ... daily
- Beijing... daily
- Tokyo... daily
- Singapore... daily

Am I forgetting any?... Are they all served daily?... And how many frames are required for these services?
 
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LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:09 am

Quoting Qazar (Reply 3):

Lufthansa has MIA, SFO and I believe JFK as the seasonal routes for the A380. But I think Lufthansa took the A380 out of JFK completely.

All of Lufthansa's A380 routes are daily.

Lufthansa has currently 10 A380s in fleet.

Source: http://a380.lufthansa.com/TAKEPART/#/DE/EN/FLIGHTPLAN and http://a380.lufthansa.com/TAKEPART/#/DE/EN/HOME

[Edited 2013-03-30 22:14:22]
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LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:18 am

Yea not really news here. A normal seasonal schedule change. When is MIA getting the 748? That will be good to see. I thought the announced something about the 748.
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LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:38 am

Quoting flymia (Reply 5):

What was announced and from who?

And reports say that Lufthansa will bring the 747-8 to MIA beginning in May

[Edited 2013-03-30 22:39:16]

[Edited 2013-03-30 22:39:36]
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Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:53 am

Quoting miami (Reply 6):
And reports say that Lufthansa will bring the 747-8 to MIA beginning in May

Will they really have enough frames to send it to MIA?
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Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:38 am

Quoting miami (Reply 6):
What was announced and from who?

And reports say that Lufthansa will bring the 747-8 to MIA beginning in May

I don't remember who said it, I think I saw it on Anet. And May, sounds good. Looking forward to see the pax 748 here.
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LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:08 pm

Quoting flymia (Reply 8):

That was me, I posted it. I got the news from ExMiami.org. But there is no sources. But ExMiami is always accurate so I do believe the 747-8i will come to MIA in May
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:17 pm

Quoting Qazar (Reply 3):
- New York (JFK) ... daily

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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:27 am

LH's A380 destinations for summer 2013 are:
IAH
JNB
NRT
PEK
SFO
SIN
- all daily

Quoting flymia (Reply 5):

... at least there isn't any 747-8 to MIA planned at the moment.
Planned are:
BLR
DEL
HKG
IAD
LAX
- all daily
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:25 pm

Quoting DABZF (Reply 11):
LH's A380 destinations for summer 2013 are:
IAH
JNB
NRT
PEK
SFO
SIN
- all daily

Which means SFO has been swapped for MIA. That's also what they did last year, right?

I would imagine they'll switch it back again for this year's winter schedule.
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:29 pm

Quoting flymia (Reply 5):
A normal seasonal schedule change.

Indeed its been like that for the last few years now. Would be good to see it year round. Had the pleasure of flying the route Winter before last.
 
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:42 pm

Quoting DABZF (Reply 11):
LH's A380 destinations for summer 2013 are:
IAH
JNB
NRT
PEK
SFO
SIN
- all daily

That's really not many destinations considering they have ten planes. Here's the times these planes will be away from home:

IAH 10:05-09:00+1 (22:55)
JNB 22:05-05:45+2 (31:40)
NRT 13:50-14:30+1 (24:40)
PEK 17:15-14:45+1 (21:30)
SFO 09:40-10:45+1 (25:05)
SIN 21:35-05:40+2 (32:05)

Of the 240 plane-hours they have every day, the planes will be gone for 158. I suppose the rest of the time will be spent doing maintenance and wing fixes?
 
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:52 pm

Quoting LH422 (Reply 14):
Of the 240 plane-hours they have every day, the planes will be gone for 158. I suppose the rest of the time will be spent doing maintenance and wing fixes?

Isn't this normal to high, long haul utilization?
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:51 pm

Quoting cmf (Reply 15):
Isn't this normal to high, long haul utilization?

The PEK rotation could work with only one plane. SFO, NRT, SIN could be done with four planes and IAH, JNB with three with time to spare. That leaves two planes.
 
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:16 pm

Today's Lufthansa newsletter confirms MIA as the next 747-8i destination! It's already loaded into the system on some days (example: June 14).
 
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:28 pm

Quoting LH422 (Reply 16):
The PEK rotation could work with only one plane. SFO, NRT, SIN could be done with four planes and IAH, JNB with three with time to spare. That leaves two planes.

That is the answer to a different question. The question at hand is how 15.8 hours of daily utilization stack up? To my knowledge it is pretty good.
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:23 pm

Quoting cmf (Reply 18):
That is the answer to a different question. The question at hand is how 15.8 hours of daily utilization stack up? To my knowledge it is pretty good.

I don't remember how utilisation is calculated, but those 15.8 hours are time spent away from base, not time spent in the air. The JNB and SIN routes both have a lot of downtime at the other end, the other routes are normal turnarounds. Across the fleet, it probably adds up to 12-13 flight hours per aircraft, per day, on average.
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:33 pm

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 19):
I don't remember how utilisation is calculated, but those 15.8 hours are time spent away from base, not time spent in the air. The JNB and SIN routes both have a lot of downtime at the other end, the other routes are normal turnarounds. Across the fleet, it probably adds up to 12-13 flight hours per aircraft, per day, on average.

Ahh, read the data wrong. Thanks for making me understand.

Still, is it unreasonable utilization?
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:48 pm

Quoting cmf (Reply 18):
That is the answer to a different question. The question at hand is how 15.8 hours of daily utilization stack up? To my knowledge it is pretty good.

Compared to the 747-8i utilization up until March (four daily destinations, DEL, BLR, IAD, LAX, with four planes) I find this number low. That number was above 20 hours away from home on average.
 
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:55 pm

I just checked LH'S website for May, June & July & they didn't show the 747-8 comming to Mia  
 
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:31 pm

Quoting mia305 (Reply 22):

It did show on Lufthansa.com. I searched a flight for May 30 and it should the aircraft type. Which was a 747-8
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:32 pm

Quoting LH422 (Reply 21):
Compared to the 747-8i utilization up until March (four daily destinations, DEL, BLR, IAD, LAX, with four planes) I find this number low. That number was above 20 hours away from home on average.

What is the meaning of the numbers? Is one good and one bad? Are both good? What are the reasons for the difference? Are they functions of the routes? Are they a function of tight scheduling causing delays? Are they a function of loose scheduling to avoid costly delays? Are the the function of significant maintenance?
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:41 pm

Quoting cmf (Reply 24):
What is the meaning of the numbers? Is one good and one bad? Are both good? What are the reasons for the difference? Are they functions of the routes? Are they a function of tight scheduling causing delays? Are they a function of loose scheduling to avoid costly delays? Are the the function of significant maintenance?

I'm not really sure what they mean either. I was just under the impression that LH are not utilizing the fleet as much as they could in order to leave room for extended maintenance. D-AIMB has been in maintenance for quite some time now getting the final wing crack fixes. I believe the other A380s will probably follow.

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/d-aimb
 
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RE: LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)

Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:56 pm

Quoting miami (Reply 23):

Showed* I apologize for my autocorrection..
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