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JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:00 pm

We all know that JetBlue is announcing Worcester beginning 11/7/13 with service to FLL and MCO (1 daily on each) but is there any other new routes/cut/gained frequencies for other cites?
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:25 pm

I would suggest monitoring threads like this one:

OAG Changes 4/5/2013: AS/B6/DL/F9/UA (by enilria Apr 1 2013 in Civil Aviation)

They are really quite detailed about service expansion, cuts, frequency changes, etc. B6 has a lot of seasonal changes in equipment, frequency and destinations so those threads come in handy  
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:01 pm

They are continued their tradition of price gouging during the holiday. SJU-DCA on thanksgiving weekend about $700 and zero refundable fares available .. its $200 any other time.

And AA has SJU-MIA-DCA in F/C for $300 cheaper! I hate B6 for that.

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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:15 pm

The other day, I spoke to a B6 flight attendant and he said that they are adding 3x BOS-LGA soon.
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:23 pm

My understanding is SRQ-BOS stays for summer.....true?

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 1):

I would suggest monitoring threads like this one:

OAG Changes 4/5/2013: AS/B6/DL/F9/UA (by enilria Apr 1 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Sorry, those give me a headache!   
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:35 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 4):
Sorry, those give me a headache!

  

Yes, they do the same to me....but mostly once I start reading the posts after the information. The info to me is quite interesting though, I just hate how people pick apart EVERY change.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 4):
My understanding is SRQ-BOS stays for summer.....true?

Looks like that is the case, yes.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 3):
The other day, I spoke to a B6 flight attendant and he said that they are adding 3x BOS-LGA soon.

That would be very interesting as upper leadership made it very clear they didn't want to get into the LGA-BOS shuttle business considering they would have to allocate quite a few slots to do so and go against fierce competition that runs a true shuttle service which is what is desired by the target market....business travel. I would be very surprised to see this.
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:02 am

Quoting plateman (Reply 2):
They are continued their tradition of price gouging during the holiday. SJU-DCA on thanksgiving weekend about $700 and zero refundable fares available .. its $200 any other time.

Wait a little bit for the prices to drop. We are over 7 months away from Thanksgiving.

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 5):
That would be very interesting as upper leadership made it very clear they didn't want to get into the LGA-BOS shuttle business considering they would have to allocate quite a few slots to do so and go against fierce competition that runs a true shuttle service which is what is desired by the target market....business travel. I would be very surprised to see this.

I don't think a flight attendant is a credible source unless this is an imminent announcement (i.e. tomorrow). Upper management keeps these decisions classified until the very last moment.

That said, I think the flight attendant may be onto something. B6 only serves JFK from BOS. Let's keep in mind that B6 recently launched service to DCA, BWI, DFW, and now PHL to try to capture the BOS business and leisure traveler. LGA is a logical choice, even with just 3 daily flights.

The unfortunate thing is that such an addition would take away from profitable LGA-Florida flying.

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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:34 am

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 5):
That would be very interesting as upper leadership made it very clear they didn't want to get into the LGA-BOS shuttle business considering they would have to allocate quite a few slots to do so and go against fierce competition that runs a true shuttle service which is what is desired by the target market....business travel. I would be very surprised to see this.

He told me that the reason why they haven't entered the market was some sort of legal or political issue. Someone told them they couldn't start it until now. I don't know who that would be, if anybody.
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:57 pm

Quoting jetbluefan1 (Reply 6):
That said, I think the flight attendant may be onto something. B6 only serves JFK from BOS. Let's keep in mind that B6 recently launched service to DCA, BWI, DFW, and now PHL to try to capture the BOS business and leisure traveler. LGA is a logical choice, even with just 3 daily flights.

The unfortunate thing is that such an addition would take away from profitable LGA-Florida flying.

  

B6 needs to add BOS-LGA for the business travel market in BOS and it will work on a small scale for the reasons above.

I've heard rumors of B6 getting additional LGA slots, so hopefully they wouldnt have to drop any LGA-Florida flying to make this happen.
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:28 pm

Quoting plateman (Reply 2):
They are continued their tradition of price gouging during the holiday. SJU-DCA on thanksgiving weekend about $700 and zero refundable fares available .. its $200 any other time.

Its actually the tradition for all airlines last time I checked.
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:37 pm

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 7):
He told me that the reason why they haven't entered the market was some sort of legal or political issue. Someone told them they couldn't start it until now. I don't know who that would be, if anybody.

Since there are no legal or political issues that prevent this route, that right there tells you he's lying or misinformed.

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 8):
I've heard rumors of B6 getting additional LGA slots,

And how exactly? They aren't readily available and it is unlikely anybody is about to sell some to JetBlue.
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:04 pm

Quoting jetbluefan1 (Reply 6):
B6 only serves JFK from BOS.

Just a little correction on that....we also do the BOS-EWR run.  
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:12 pm

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 10):

There's probably a hope from US/AA divesture, but honestly with DL having more, I dont see why new AA would have to give up LGA slots-----DCA?---that's a different story
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:03 pm

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 10):
Since there are no legal or political issues that prevent this route, that right there tells you he's lying or misinformed.

I think it's the latter, maybe there just weren't slots for the route and that got misconstrued somehow. I know flight attendants aren't the best source, but it just didn't seem likely that one would join a bunch of planespotters and say, "Yeah, we're starting BOS-LGA soon" if it wasn't at least a rumor. He could've lied, but why?
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:58 pm

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 13):
He could've lied, but why?

I doubt its a lie, most likely a rumor the crewmember heard and thought it had enough merit to repeat. There are 3 places at airlines where rumors run like wild horses: the breakroom, the flight deck and the galley. Galley rumors are the worst and for some reason a lot of inflight crewmembers take galley rumors as gospel no matter how out-of-this-world they are. If I were to believe all the galley rumors I have heard in my travels, we would have officially merged with AA 6 times by now, F9 3 times and VX at least once, we would already be flying A330's and B788's, ALL our E190's would have all been returned to Embraer, and lord knows how many other things I have heard over the years in the galley some folks SWEAR were real and true and I just shook my head.

The BOS-LGA thing is weird. There have been rumors, especially when we got the extra slots at LGA, that we would possibly start the entire Northeast shuttle thing. Leadership....UPPER leadership (and I believe there was a Jet-To-The-Point released from the CEO on this) made it clear that we were NOT INTERESTED in that type of operation. However, now that A321's are on the horizon, things can change. Swap out 5X daily A320 LGA-FLL to 4X A321, you keep capacity the same but gain a slot at LGA. Do that with all LGA-Florida operations, you may free up enough slots to start a shuttle service, especially if extra ones come from the US/AA merger (which I'm not too sure about that happening).

It has been made quite clear that the A321 will serve 2 purposes: TRANSCON premium product, and slot-controlled airports (which tells me that there will most likely be a high-density configuration for slot-controlled airports going to the high-demand cities, and then the "premium" low-density TRANSCON version). I can neither confirm or deny this, only stating what has been made public through the webcasts and whatnot.

So, in summation, is it possible? Sure. Will 3X daily cut it going BOS-LGA? I doubt it very highly as that route requires high frequency. I am taking a look at DL's website right now, and if I am reading this right, they have 16 flights LGA-BOS today, all on E175's. 16!!! Literally a flight every hour starting at 6am going until 9pm.    B6 couldn't hold a candle to that. Hell, we couldn't hold a blow torch to that LOL!
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:00 pm

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 10):

Trade JFK slots for LGA slots
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:32 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 12):

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 10):

There's probably a hope from US/AA divesture, but honestly with DL having more, I dont see why new AA would have to give up LGA slots-----DCA?---that's a different

You answered your own question. There is no hope for the merger because there will be absolutely no LGA slot divesture.
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:18 am

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 14):
The unfortunate thing is that such an addition would take away from profitable LGA-Florida flying.

There are better uses of LGA slots. They have a huge FL operation up the road at JFK, down the road at EWR, and over yonder in HPN.

They can likely spare 3 slots for BOS.

The route will be a token presence against the shuttles.

The Shuttles lose money.

This will likely lose less money as it will only be 3 flights and opens up an important link between 2 important cities in the B6 network. It will happen eventually
 
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RE: JetBlue Schedule Extension. 4/3/13

Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:14 pm

jfklganyc, how is that quoting me when it's from reply 6 written by jetbluefan1??    A.net glitch?

The original:

Quoting jetbluefan1 (Reply 6):
The unfortunate thing is that such an addition would take away from profitable LGA-Florida flying.

That's weird LOL!
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