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Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:39 am

Good morning folks and welcome and No. 6 of 2013. Hope this fine morning finds you well and enjoying a nice weekend!

There's not an awful lot to report this month; the first Aer Lingus Regional ATR72s will be coming shortly; we await news on the fate of Cityjet, which has apparently attracted two potential investors. The Summer season is now upon us and week by week, we should be seeing extra flights and additional frequencies on existing routes.

Here's the link to the last thread: Irish 5/13: Climbing Through The Turbulence (by kaitak Apr 3 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Enjoy!
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:35 pm

Hi everyone . Just completed my Aer Lingus TR . Preview of the new wifi being launched next week I believe.

Tá áthas ar Aer Lingus fáilte ar bord a chur romhat / Aer Lingus is delighted to welcome you on board.

Aer Lingus A330 New Wifi Trial And TV Crew+Lounges (by OA260 Apr 21 2013 in Trip Reports)

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/EIAGP/file_zps53bcaca5.jpg

It will be interesting to see the uptake on this new product and its reliability. Also the shorthaul pricing is something that will be interesting. The service provider is quite a good one so I feel it will be a stable product.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:05 pm

Hi,

One of my favourite trip reports about EI!!! Very informative and some nice terminal shots!  
It's a very easy flight to catch an A330 within Europe. I personally have travelled to Malaga but only on FR....  

I have to try out the A319's from BHD.

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Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:21 pm

Quoting Dublinspotter (Reply 2):
One of my favourite trip reports about EI!!! Very informative and some nice terminal shots!  
It's a very easy flight to catch an A330 within Europe. I personally have travelled to Malaga but only on FR....  

Thanks really glad you enjoyed it .   Next time you know what to book   The fares booked in advance are not that bad. Especially at the start and end of the season.

Good to see SNN - JFK back with DL from May .  
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:57 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):

I really like that view of the A330. The Wifi bubble actually spoils the fuselage a little.
Anyway I have been lurking here for about 2 years and finally decided to join. I have no connections in the industry. I have a question on these short hops. Are all the 330s cycled through in order to manage the number of cycles used up on these trips?
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:07 pm

That's a nice picture of EI-DAA, which I was on twice last week on a BOS-DUB-BOS trip.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:19 am

Did EXS 377 from Murcia to BFS divert into DUB last night?.
Surely this runway issue at BFS was sorted or was there a different reason for the divert?
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:50 am

Quoting RandWKOP (Reply 4):
I have a question on these short hops. Are all the 330s cycled through in order to manage the number of cycles used up on these trips?

All airlines would tend to rotate aircraft through their route network in order to even out the cycles on each aircraft. You can sometimes spot an odd aircraft change which can be done to reduce/maintain cycles. Airlines would plan out their maintenance schedule months in advance based on estimated cycles achieved. Using the EI AGP route as an example, EI may decide to stop using 1 unit on this route in May in order to keep its cycles on track for end of month hanger visit.
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:14 am

Just to prove what Eagleboy said, I was at the airport, and EI-ELA had just come out of the Hanger and towed around to the gate, to start service again. That was last Friday. And if EI-ELA did that Malaga route recently, means they were using that route to get the cycles to where they want them to be before each Hanger visit.
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:41 am

The A330-300 takes over AGP in early May.

Jet 2 did diverted to DUB last night because the shorter runway was closed for preperation of works taking place on the main runway, closes between 22.00-22.30 daily but Jet 2 were running 10 minutes late, DAA need to teach BFS how to carry out runway works and cause as little problems for carriers as possible as BFS seem to go out of their way to make problems for Jet2.
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:54 am

Quoting RandWKOP (Reply 4):

I really like that view of the A330.

Yes me too I like that shot.

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 5):
That's a nice picture of EI-DAA, which I was on twice last week on a BOS-DUB-BOS trip.

Did you have a good experience?

Quoting nightfox365 (Reply 8):
And if EI-ELA did that Malaga route recently,

Yes ELA brought me back AGP-DUB. Was nice to get the A330-300  



Not a good day for LH at DUB but EI cleaning up with rebooks .

Lufthansa cancels flights to and from Ireland

German airline Lufthansa has cancelled dozens of flights to and from the UK and Ireland due to strike action.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0422/383...ncels-flights-to-and-from-ireland/
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:01 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 9):
DAA need to teach BFS how to carry out runway works and cause as little problems for carriers as possible as BFS seem to go out of their way to make problems for Jet2.

Totally agree,and even with the aircraft running late by 10 minutes,surely works could have been held up for those few minutes to allow the flight to land.Overall great customer service by the management of BFS,not only to their customer but to the passengers as well,and then they(BFS) wonder why there is such a lot of people using DUB.
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:51 pm

Quoting Nibog (Reply 11):

I have to ask why these works are not carried out until all aircraft arrive its not as if the airport is busy all night, when DUB close the runway at nights for works they wait until 23.00-23.30 when most flights are in and then use 16 for the last few flights before reopening for EI T/A arrivals. Managment at BFS need to get a grip and lean how to run an airport.

[Edited 2013-04-22 10:52:50]
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:32 pm

Quoting RandWKOP (Reply 4):
Anyway I have been lurking here for about 2 years and finally decided to join.

Meant to say welcome by the way . Im sure everyone here looks forward to your input in future.  


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One thing I have noticed about the pre ordering of meals is that the offerings sometimes do not reflect the time of day . For instance on some of my future bookings I see that on some early morning flights there is a choice of 1: Irish Breakfast 2 : Seared Beef 3: Chicken Noodle.

However on an evening flight some only offer Irish breakfast and nothing else even at 7/8/9 at night ! Who wants breakfast at 8pm? I know there might be a few but why not offer hot wraps or at least the salads. Is this a technical issue that it does not recognise the flight time or is it just bad planning? I noticed this on my DUB-AGP flight also . Only salads were available at 7am but no Irish breakfast.

[Edited 2013-04-22 11:36:06]
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:55 am

Folks, for the last I don't how many years I have read this forum and especially the trip reports.

I work within the aviation leasing industry (firstly I am amazed how many people know whats happening on this forum even when NDA's are signed and the info is still not made public) and have I to do a LOT of travel with work, mostly long haul and lucky enough in F or if not available J. I am gold with EI, BA, EY Gold Elite, EK Platinum and UA Premier 1K, I don't do Sky Team.

To me the best airline out of Dublin is EK especially in F, all my Asia trips are with EK however EY are getting close. EK need a lounge in DUB ASAP as the EY lounge is fantastic especially the breakfast, I don't eat onboard until an hour before landing in AUH when I order my steak sandwich. Yesterday I flew stateside to SFO via Washington with United on UA127 in Business First and I have to say job well done, excellent service, lie flat seats (take heed EI), good food, CO cabin crew sorry flight attendants who are very different to UA cabin crew who are not passenger friendly!! and what wins it for me with United are the Ice Cream Sundaes!!

I travel back from SFO tomorrow night with BA in F, roll on EY next Monday.

I admire OA260 who does fantastic trip reports, usually I get onboard finish calls, read the papers, before I know it were airborne, computer out order a few drinks, eat, sleep watch a movie and land. OA260 brings back the nostalgia of flying.

By the way I have no problems posting photos to prove I fly as I say I do above as I do take the odd photo to show my son along with the model airplane I get him.......
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:17 am

I've noticed that EK is sending a mix of 3-Class and 2-Class 77W's to DUB.

Does anyone know what days the 3-Class flies and what days the 2-Class flies?
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:36 am

Quoting cipango (Reply 15):
I've noticed that EK is sending a mix of 3-Class and 2-Class 77W's to DUB.

Does anyone know what days the 3-Class flies and what days the 2-Class flies?

There do not appear to be any set days. It is sporadic, and looking head to next month, there are only a handful of days where it is a 2 class aircraft. I beieve EK are somewhat short of airframes at the moment which may explain it.
 
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Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:15 am

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 16):
I beieve EK are somewhat short of airframes at the moment.....

There's a statement that sounds against the grain!!
 
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Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:55 am

Random question again, but im looking for information on rough operating costs per hour for narrowbody planes eg 737, 757 and A321 preferably. Have done some seatching but cant seem to find anything more up to date than the year 2000. Any help would be greatly appreciated for a college assignment.

Thanks

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Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:45 am

Haven't we been here before ?
 
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Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:41 pm

Quoting EI104 (Reply 14):
EK need a lounge in DUB ASAP as the EY lounge is fantastic especially the breakfast,

Hi and very interesting post. Sounds like a nice job   I totally agree with you EK apparently were in negotiations about a lounge so hopefully we will hear something good soon. It does certainly water down the product on the ground without one. EY certainly has the best lounge at DUB and I agree their breakfast is top class.

It is interesting to read you prefer EK over EY . Its really split it seems you either are EK or EY . I hear that from a lot of Irish business travellers.

Quoting EI104 (Reply 14):
I admire OA260 who does fantastic trip reports, usually I get on board finish calls, read the papers, before I know it were airborne, computer out order a few drinks, eat, sleep watch a movie and land. OA260 brings back the nostalgia of flying.

Well what can I say I really appreciate those comments and its comments like that which make me feel its all worth while. It takes time and effort to produce these and sometimes you feel is it worth it but you have helped to make me realise it certainly is. I have a few interesting ones coming up which I hope you and everyone will enjoy.  
Quoting cipango (Reply 15):
Does anyone know what days the 3-Class flies and what days the 2-Class flies?

Looking at the schedules for the next 10 months it seems 99% of the time its 3 class. The travel trade even have F Class consol fares so its fairly stable that DUB get 3 class.

Quoting ac747 (Reply 19):
AC Rouge to go year round YYZ-DUB.

Great to see and I wonder what effect it will have on any EI route. I always thought Rouge would be the only way AC would go year round as its the product best to suit the Irish market. Lets hope it does well and its well supported.
 
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Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:06 pm

Quoting ac747 (Reply 19):
AC Rouge to go year round YYZ-DUB.

The only thing about this that is surprising is that it has taken this long! I recall that we were expecting this route to go year round since Open Skies came into effect. The other side of the coin is have EI missed the boat yet again for what should be a successful long haul route?
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Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:14 pm

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 21):
The only thing about this that is surprising is that it has taken this long!

Well the type of product did not exist until now. Yes AC sent their Domestic F aircraft here but it needed a ''Rouge'' type model to make if feasible. It will be interesting to see the pricing during Winter though.
 
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Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:12 pm

Quoting EI104 (Reply 14):
have I to do a LOT of travel with work, mostly long haul and lucky enough in F or if not available J. I am gold with EI, BA, EY Gold Elite, EK Platinum and UA Premier 1K, I don't do Sky Team.

I'm definitely in the wrong industry!   Great to hear such insight into the various services on offer from Dublin from clearly a very experienced flyer.
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:00 am

Quoting ac747 (Reply 19):
AC Rouge to go year round YYZ-DUB.

Have there been any further developments with the EI AC codeshare to LHR? You cant book through EI.com or AC.com and I have seen no advertising for it, has it all gone belly up?
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:35 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
Did you have a good experience?

I did! Pictures below (which many of you have seen already). I was in seat 4F, Business Premiere. It was only 7/24 seats occupied. I think EI-DAA just does the Boston-Dublin route. In the winter when there is only one daily, the plane is a -300. But in the summer when EI doubles up, they use the -200. I've been on -LAX also; just missing -DUO.

Maeve handled the controls from the right seat on EI-DAA to BOS
EI-DAA (A330-200) decending into Boston on EI 136
40,000 feet over Newfoundland on the way to Boston on EI 136
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:26 pm

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 25):
I did! Pictures below (which many of you have seen already).

Arr yes sorry I do remember seeing them before . Good stuff.

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Etihad is having issues with their new systems today . It has been randomly cancelling confirmed bookings.


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Aer Lingus to pursue ‘wet-leasing’ contracts with other carriers

Aer Lingus says it is working on plans to fly short-haul routes for major European airlines keen to exit unprofitable services while retaining feeder traffic to their hubs.
Accords with Virgin Atlantic Airways and Nova Airlines AB of Sweden mark the beginning of the contract-flying strategy, with Aer Lingus pursuing outsourcing work with larger carriers, chief executive Christoph Mueller said.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...acts-with-other-carriers-1.1370856

Aer Lingus will release its 1st QTR results tomorrow and will be interesting reading !
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:39 pm

Aer Lingus Regional will move to T2 at DUB from 1st May.

Quote:
Aer Lingus Regional flights, operated by Aer Arann, are to move to Terminal 2 at Dublin Airport from May 1.
Until now, some Aer Lingus Regional flights have operated from Terminal 1.

All regional routes will now operate from Terminal 2, including flights to Southend, Edinburgh, Birmingham and Manchester. The move to Terminal 2 will also make life easier for Aer Lingus Regional passengers linking to Aer Lingus’s transatlantic services from Terminal 2.

Good news, always heard people complaining about the walk between the two terminals.

http://www.businesspost.ie/

The link to the article is a bit dodgy for some reason but the story is there on the main page.

Quoting EIRules (Reply 24):
Have there been any further developments with the EI AC codeshare to LHR? You cant book through EI.com or AC.com and I have seen no advertising for it, has it all gone belly up?

It was just an interline agreement at LHR with the possibility of a full code share agreement sometime this year. I would have expected to hear something about it by now though.
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:42 pm

That Air Canada ROUGE service to Ireland looks terrific! Aboard 763s, painted the way AC used to look (i.e. red-and-white livery, newly stylized).
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:48 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 27):
Aer Lingus Regional will move to T2 at DUB from 1st May.

I take it that the aircraft will still park where they are and people will be bussed to/from T2? There's hardly room to park them all at T2 unless you kick out the cargo aircraft from that little cul de sac?
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:57 pm

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 28):
That Air Canada ROUGE service to Ireland looks terrific! Aboard 763s, painted the way AC used to look (i.e. red-and-white livery, newly stylized).

Yes I agree. Dare I say Rouge looks better than AC livery . The old AC livery was just classic and I like it so much. Cant wait to see it at DUB . Also I intend to take a trip as I have a Cousin in Toronto so will be a good excuse  
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:08 pm

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 29):
I take it that the aircraft will still park where they are and people will be bussed to/from T2? There's hardly room to park them all at T2 unless you kick out the cargo aircraft from that little cul de sac?

I've seen stop mark positions on the T2 stands that have ATR written adjacent. Whether or not they will use them that remains to be seen.
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:47 pm

Does RE only use remote/bus stands at DUB now? Do they ever park at contact stands at Pier A?
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:55 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 32):
Does RE only use remote/bus stands at DUB now? Do they ever park at contact stands at Pier A?

I've not been on or seen one at A in years. But there has to be no chance they'll countenance bussing from E to the stands they currently use - the distance is huge. Is there even an underpass under Pier A?


On a seperate note, I can now tell whether its a A32x or a Ryanair flight going overhead (my new house is on a path in to 28 and still has single glazing, not for long) due to the engine note. I really need to get out more - if only so I don't hear as many and check FR24! Both are quite distinctive but the 320s, even CFM56 powered ones, are far louder at that altitude.
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:18 pm

Quoting EIDL (Reply 33):
I can now tell whether its a A32x or a Ryanair flight going overhead

Indeed , I lived under the flight path out of Heathrow's 09R and soon learned how to tell the aircraft type by sound alone. I was able to tell the difference between a RR and GE powered 77E. 77Ws are particularly distinctive along with the CX and MH 744s - the loudest of all due to being fully laden on the way to the far east. Hopefully things will become more diverse at DUB soon with EY adding the 77W and hopefully the 787 as currently planned! And who knows EK may send an A380 before we know it...
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:47 pm

Quoting EIDL (Reply 33):
I've not been on or seen one at A in years. But there has to be no chance they'll countenance bussing from E to the stands they currently use - the distance is huge. Is there even an underpass under Pier A?

They very much still use pier A. Saw 2 re aircraft parks there this afternoon!

On another note, saw part of the refurbished Pier B (312/313) today and must say I was highly disillusioned afterwards! A lick of paint and repositioned gate desks and its costing so much??? I'm sure I've missed some thing!
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:52 pm

Quoting tonystan (Reply 35):
They very much still use pier A. Saw 2 re aircraft parks there this afternoon!

Must not be there at the times I'm there (generally very early or horrendously late in either direction, thanks to work), always been bussed to beyond D from the old terminal non-contact gates.

Is it done on a gate availability basis or cost basis?
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:56 pm

Quoting EIDL (Reply 36):
Quoting tonystan (Reply 35):
They very much still use pier A. Saw 2 re aircraft parks there this afternoon!

Must not be there at the times I'm there (generally very early or horrendously late in either direction, thanks to work), always been bussed to beyond D from the old terminal non-contact gates.

Is it done on a gate availability basis or cost basis?

It does tend to become Cityjet world at peak times alright!!! Even the interior of the "chapel" of Pier A is predominated with WX Branding! Actually had an enjoyable flight to LCY in their Dornier a few months back!
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:59 pm

Anyone know whats happening with that First Nation at DUB ? Is it going to someone else.

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Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:11 pm

Quoting tonystan (Reply 35):
On another note, saw part of the refurbished Pier B (312/313) today and must say I was highly disillusioned afterwards! A lick of paint and repositioned gate desks and its costing so much??? I'm sure I've missed some thing!

Havn't being up around there recently but they were due to get new airbridges.
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:16 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 39):

They got new jetties a year or two ago. They are now the same as the ones in T2. I remember YEARS AGO when I used to drive those things for a llivong. B22 used to be an ancient jetty (why they didn't upgrade it in the 90s is anyone's guess) with the most unusual control. You could pull the control unit down to the ramp from the steps beside the cab and drive it from there. Ancient!!!!!
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Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:54 am

Aer Lingus seeking 100 redundancies as first quarter losses grow


Aer Lingus reports operating loss of €45.5m for first quarter of 2013

Aer Lingus has said is seeking about 100 voluntary redundancies as it continues to streamline its organisational structure. It made the announcement in an interim management statement today.

It said its performance for the first three months of the year highlighted the need to continue to review its cost base to protect profitability for the rest of 2013 and beyond.

Aer Lingus said today that its revenue for the first three months of 2013 rose by 3.3% €259.7m.

The airline reported an operating loss before exceptional items of €45.5m for the three months from January to March - this compares to a loss of €36.1m the same time last year.

The airline noted that its first quarter of the year is usually loss making.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013/0425/385524-aer-lingus-ims/

So some interesting figures ! Thoughts?
 
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Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:11 am

"Aer Lingus put the increased loss down to start-up costs for the Virgin ''wet lease'' operation in the UK, changes to the long haul fleet and slightly weaker trading on UK routes. Total passenger numbers between January and end March increased by 2.2%. The overall yield per passenger increased by 3.7%"

Sounds to me as if this quarter was actually an improvement. Did RTE make the link between redundancies and Q1 losses?

However this linking does support the logic of Herr Mueller. At the CAPA conference 10 days ago he made a statement hinting at "ongoing continuous change" at EI. While this is a good concept there comes a point where you cut too much and lose the difference between 'value airline' and LCC.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:21 am

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 42):

Well going back to the article I posted before where it mentioned EI had one of the highest staff costs in Europe I guess they need to look at this in more detail. They need to look at some legacy employees on bloated contracts/ wages before they hit the average paid Check in agent/lounge agent.

The annual general meeting tomorrow will be interesting Im sure.


The full facts and figures are here :

http://corporate.aerlingus.com/media...3_Interim_Management_Statement.pdf

[Edited 2013-04-25 00:25:36]
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:31 am

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 42):
While this is a good concept there comes a point where you cut too much and lose the difference between 'value airline' and LCC.

In terms of service I think Mueller appreciates that Aer Lingus needs to set itself apart, there have been a number of improvements along side the greenfield cost cutting programme so staff cuts don't seem to be immediately affecting the product.

Any idea where the redundancies are coming from? 100 seems a low number for front line staff.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:11 am

Aer Lingus Adds Boeing 757s to Link With JetBlue Hubs in U.S.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...ink-with-jetblue-hubs-in-u-s-.html
Haven't we been here before ?
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:19 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 43):
Well going back to the article I posted before where it mentioned EI had one of the highest staff costs in Europe I guess they need to look at this in more detail. They need to look at some legacy employees on bloated contracts/ wages before they hit the average paid Check in agent/lounge agent.

Especially considering that EI have pretty much halved their average length of service among frontline staff over the last 5-6 years. Over 50% of all check-in/boarding/cabin/arrivals staff are there under 8 years. A long way away from the more mature staff demographic of the late 90's/early 00's.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:43 am

Turkish AIrlines will operate 12 weekly flights to IST from 30 March 2014 up from 10.

Etihad B777 will not operate for the winter season.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:00 pm

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 46):
Over 50% of all check-in/boarding/cabin/arrivals staff are there under 8 years. A long way away from the more mature staff demographic of the late 90's/early 00's.

I guess the check in staff are on around EUR10-12 an hour or is that an over estimate? It used to be between EUR17-23 depending on what contracts you were on .

They need to consolidate departments where possible and cut the highest wage costs.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:59 pm

Interesting development from Norwegian :

Budget airline may register aircraft in Ireland to avoid Norwegian labour law

Budget airline Norwegian Air Shuttle is considering registering a long-haul aircraft in Ireland to circumvent Norwegian laws, which bar it from hiring cheaper Asian cabin crews.

The carrier has sent a letter to Norway's Civil Aviation Authority asking it to authorise "renting an aircraft that in all likelihood will be registered in the Irish Aircraft Registration Department", reports AFP.
The contents of the letter, seen by business daily Dagens Naeringsliv, were confirmed by company spokesman Lasse Sandaker-Nielsen.

The new aircraft would operate on Norwegian's recently announced routes to Thailand and the United States.
To ensure competitive fares on the new routes, the company wants to hire staff in Asia for a fraction of the cost it is now paying in Scandinavia.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013...0425/385693-norwegian-air-shuttle/