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Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 6:55 pm

Just hearing initial reports of a shootout just outside of the Security Checkpoint at Terminal B at IAH.. Nothing being reported on the news yet. But this is coming from crewmembers at the Terminal now.

EDIT: Also possible multiple fatalities

[Edited 2013-05-02 11:55:50]
 
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 6:59 pm

ExpressJet will be having the FAA ATCSCC issue a company groundstop momentarily. Unsure if UA will follow.
 
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 7:00 pm

Reports I'm seeing on twitter that it was a single self inflicted gun shot wound while in line at security, not good. But one does have to wonder what the person was doing with a gun at security...
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 7:00 pm

Coming across the Houston Chronicle's site now:

http://www.chron.com/
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 7:00 pm

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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 7:13 pm

From KHOU-TV:

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Updated today at 2:05 PM (CDT)
HOUSTON –- A man shot himself at Bush Intercontinental Airport in north Houston early Thursday afternoon, the Houston Police Department confirmed with KHOU 11 News.

The suspect walked into the security checkpoint area inside Terminal B and fired at least two shots into the air, according to an HPD.

The captain said an air marshal fired at the suspect, but missed. The man then pulled out a pistol and shot himself, according to an HPD captain.
He was taken by ambulance to an area hospital.
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 7:17 pm

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 2):
Reports I'm seeing on twitter that it was a single self inflicted gun shot wound while in line at security

We've definitely all thought about doing that at one point or another...
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 7:28 pm

Quoting N766UA (Reply 7):
We've definitely all thought about doing that at one point or another...

Since a good number of flights into Mexico depart Terminal B using E145 equipment, I'm guessing there's more to the story than simple frustration with the TSA folks.
 
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 7:28 pm

I'm surprised this didn't happened sooner. What's next? Prescreening before you actually get into the TSA lines?
 
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 7:29 pm

I guess that FAM was in the right spot at the right time. Even though he missed. It made the guy end it himself. Considering I'm seeing he had an AR-15 and a Pistol. Obviously if that FAM hadn't been there to draw on him, he was going to do harm to others.... Kind of like what happened around January in Oregon. A guy pulled out a gun just as he was about to head into a mall and another man with a concealed carry pulled on him and the potential offender ended it himself outside the mall right then and there.
 
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 7:54 pm

CNN is now reporting that injuries were life threatening but does not say anything about a death. Shot 2 bullets and in the air, before shooting himself.
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 8:09 pm

The suspect was taken to the hospital and later died. Interesting that this happened with a big gun convention taking place in Houston this week.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/hp...978/19990090/-/cf23nx/-/index.html
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 8:13 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 13):
The suspect was taken to the hospital and later died. Interesting that this happened with a big gun convention taking place in Houston this week.

When is there NOT a gun convention going in Texas at any time? :P
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 8:17 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 15):
When is there NOT a gun convention going in Texas at any time? :P

You do have a point there..... but it gets even better!

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news...to-arm-local-residents-4298926.php
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 8:35 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 13):
Interesting that this happened with a big gun convention taking place in Houston this week.

You haven't driven down I-45 near IAH lately have you?

There is a big billboard when you are headed southbound - advertising "Big Gun Show" - and there is one at some location in the Houston area every weekend.
 
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 8:37 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 21):
It would depend on who was selling what to whom, yes?

I sincerely hope you are not living up to stereotypes and are truly joking.

Anyhow, any news on why/how this all happened
 
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 8:47 pm

FAA has issued a ground stop onto all arrivals until 1600lcl.
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 9:04 pm

Quoting falkerker (Reply 22):
I sincerely hope you are not living up to stereotypes and are truly joking.

After the fifteen years I spent as an urban high school teacher,
I pretty much stereotype anything I feel like stereotyping.   

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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 9:12 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 8):
I'm guessing there's more to the story than simple frustration with the TSA folks.

Perhaps distraught over baggage fees?
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 9:30 pm

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 25):
Perhaps distraught over baggage fees?

Probably looked at his boarding pass and realized he was flying out of Gate B-84.
 
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 9:54 pm

Quoting ScottB (Reply 26):
Quoting Confuscius (Reply 25):Perhaps distraught over baggage fees?

Probably looked at his boarding pass and realized he was flying out of Gate B-84.

Best comment of the day.

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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Thu May 02, 2013 11:02 pm

Quoting PHLapproach (Reply 9):
Kind of like what happened around January in Oregon. A guy pulled out a gun just as he was about to head into a mall and another man with a concealed carry pulled on him and the potential offender ended it himself outside the mall right then and there.

No. It was back in December. He went into the mall and killed two people before himself, not outside.
 
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Fri May 03, 2013 12:09 am

Quoting ScottB (Reply 19):
Probably looked at his boarding pass and realized he was flying out of Gate B-84.

This is probably one of the best posts on the site in a long while. If only the new terminal was fully opened.
 
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Fri May 03, 2013 12:38 am

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Shots...continental-Airport-205835961.html says:

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He left behind a suicide note that said he had a "monster within" and wanted the cops to take care of it. The note said Moore had a bigger plan, but decided to show mercy on others.

Moore posted two cryptic messages on his Facebook wall Wednesday: "This Life Will Crash Tomorrow!" and "I recently had the chance of staring death in the face, and she was beautiful."

So, this was a premeditated but failed 'suicide by cop' scenario...
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Fri May 03, 2013 4:27 pm

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 2):
Reports I'm seeing on twitter that it was a single self inflicted gun shot wound while in line at security, not good. But one does have to wonder what the person was doing with a gun at security...
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Fri May 03, 2013 7:35 pm

Hopefully this spurs some additional thinking and discussion when it comes to airport security measures.

I've always been leery of long security lines being vulnerable. Any time you have a large concentration of people in a small area, it can be problematic. All the more reason to go for the shorter line at security, and measures to speed up, spread out security screening efforts.
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Fri May 03, 2013 7:43 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 14):
there is one at some location in the Houston area every weekend.

I need to amend my post.

Yes there is a 'big gun show' somewhere in the Houston area every weekend.

However, this weekend May 3 - 5 is the National Rifle Association Annual Meeting at the George R Brown Convention Center in downtown Houston.
 
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RE: Reports: IAH Shootout

Fri May 03, 2013 8:01 pm

Quoting XEspecialist (Reply 25):
Hopefully this spurs some additional thinking and discussion when it comes to airport security measures.

Unfortunately, it will probably spur knee-jerk reactions.

But really, there is no getting around the fact that democracy/liberty and security are not fully compatible, which would you choose? That combined with the fact that there is always a bigger fool/mentally deranged/criminally inclined person that will go beyond the scope of anything less than an infinitely costly/complex/time-consuming/invasive security system means such risks can NEVER be totally avoided.

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