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US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 7:25 pm

Hi!

Quick question: What will happen to US Airways' Airbus A330s after the US/AA Merger?

Thanks!

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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 7:28 pm

They will continue to fly, albeit with American titles
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 7:45 pm

A330's will stay . They stayed at Delta . They will stay at the new AA.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 7:51 pm

There is a new one about to be delivered (though already painted in current US colours).

Any idea when the first US aircraft will be painted in the new AA colours - or do we know yet if the new colours are being retained?

(Is AA still repainting acft into the new c/s?)
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 8:01 pm

Quoting AirbusGeek (Thread starter):


Quick question: What will happen to US Airways' Airbus A330s after the US/AA Merger?

They'll get repainted with American on the side and probably get new seat covers. The US Airways business class is almost identical to the new American business class that rolled out on the 777-300ERs.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 8:35 pm

You will not see any painting of US aircraft into AA livery until after merger closing which is scheduled to be on Aug 31 (Subject to change).So expect an aggressive rebranding on the USAirways side in September 2013 .
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 8:38 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 4):
The US Airways business class is almost identical to the new American business class that rolled out on the 777-300ERs.


Merly by coincidence or done on purpose?
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 8:40 pm

And considering that the combined airline will be run by US management, I predict that Airbus will be the primary manufacturer for the combined airline and that AA's existing Boeing orders will be cancelled in favor of more Airbus orders.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 9:07 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):
And considering that the combined airline will be run by US management, I predict that Airbus will be the primary manufacturer for the combined airline and that AA's existing Boeing orders will be cancelled in favor of more Airbus orders.

Total rubbish. In fact, being larger makes it more important to send business to both sides. AA by itself even said that no single source could produce enough to meet its demands, a problem that just gets larger once you add US in.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 9:09 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):
And considering that the combined airline will be run by US management, I predict that Airbus will be the primary manufacturer for the combined airline and that AA's existing Boeing orders will be cancelled in favor of more Airbus orders.

Oh no, I hope you aren’t serious. This reminds me of the countless number of people who think United is run by the Continental management and therefore any decisions made by pre-merger United leadership are no longer applicable and the new airline will be all Boeing forever.

I don’t see the AA 737 and 777 orders disappearing. They just firmed up the 787 order in January, so I don’t see that going anywhere. The A330s are great airplanes, and they also have a lot of Boeing widebodies on order too.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 9:15 pm

Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 6):
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 4):The US Airways business class is almost identical to the new American business class that rolled out on the 777-300ERs.

Merly by coincidence or done on purpose?

Although people probably don't want to hear or admit it, US was the first airline to launch these type of seats back in 2009, 3 years before AA, and a couple years ahead of DL/CX/LH and whoever else currently has the Cirus model.

While they aren't identical, the new AA seats are pretty close to the present US A330 seats.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 9:16 pm

Probably a number of flights will be cut as a result of the merger, so keeping the A330s might be part of a strategy to accelerate the retirement of older 767ERs. I recently flew PHL-CDG on a US A333 and I found it to be very comfortable and in great shape of maintenance and repair. It will certainly be good for the new AA to have a few of these birds.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 10:13 pm

I'm sure the 330's will be a handy aircraft for medium/long haul routes that might require more lift than a 763 but not enough to warrant a 772 (once converted to a 2 class layout). It will also be a handy aircraft for hauls that require heavy cargo lift.

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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 10:17 pm

Quoting chepos (Reply 12):
I'm sure the 330's will be a handy aircraft for medium/long haul routes that might require more lift than a 763 but not enough to warrant a 772 (once converted to a 2 class layout). It will also be a handy aircraft for hauls that require heavy cargo lift.

I actually think many 330s may stay in PHL as the 330 fits the PHL market well. The 772 may be too large for many routes save LHR and MAD.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 10:19 pm

Quoting flashmeister (Reply 8):
Total rubbish. In fact, being larger makes it more important to send business to both sides.

   Look where Delta is now. People were saying they'd offload the Airbus fleet as soon as possible; now the A330's are undergoing cabin upgrades.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 10:20 pm

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 13):
I actually think many 330s may stay in PHL as the 330 fits the PHL market well.

I think the A330s will go to JFK and MIA while the 763s move to PHL. The new AA might reconfigure some of their 763s to two class, which would better suit many of PHL's International flights.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 10:22 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):
And considering that the combined airline will be run by US management, I predict that Airbus will be the primary manufacturer for the combined airline and that AA's existing Boeing orders will be cancelled in favor of more Airbus orders.


  

That is ridiculous.

First off, the management will be a mix of both companies. Second, the composition of the management team is meaningless in this case since this resulting airline is going to be so large that committing all of their business to a single manufacturer would be stupid, anyway, and any management team worth anything will know that. Witness the AA order of July 2011 to see why airlines benefit from doing business with both manufacturers: AA, an airline on the verge of bankruptcy, was able to pit the two manufacturers against each other so effectively as to get insanely favorable deals from both. There is absolutely no logical reason why that would not continue going forward, regardless of who the CEO is.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 11):
Probably a number of flights will be cut as a result of the merger, so keeping the A330s might be part of a strategy to accelerate the retirement of older 767ERs.

  

I suspect the A330s will figure prominently in the widebody fleet rationalization. With respect specifically to the widebodies, priority #1 post-merger will likely be to get the US 767s parked ASAP - likely accelerating the plan US already had in place. The inevitable network and fleet optimization following the merger will likely facilitate this acceleration. Beyond that, I could also definitely see some shifting - like 12-18 months after the merger close - of widebodies among the hubs. There are PMUS longhaul markets like CLT-FRA and PHL-DUB that I think would probably be perfect for PMAA 767-300ERs post-merger, and likewise there are PMAA longhaul markets like JFK-BCN and MIA-GIG that would probably be a good fit for the PMUS A330s post merger.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 10:22 pm

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 11):
I recently flew PHL-CDG on a US A333 and I found it to be very comfortable and in great shape of maintenance and repair. It will certainly be good for the new AA to have a few of these birds.

PHL-CDG is normally on one of their new A330-200, which are in very good shape. The A330-300 were in rough shape when I used to fly them frequently a few years ago.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 10:25 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 15):

I think the A330s will go to JFK and MIA while the 763s move to PHL. The new AA might reconfigure some of their 763s to two class, which would better suit many of PHL's International flights.

I wouldn't be surprised to see 763s in PHL, but they are already 2 class, so other than getting flat business seats, I don't know how they would be reconfigured. The A330s likely will move around and may switch hubs, but they might stay in PHL. The A332s could replace some 763s to South America where cargo is in demand.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 10:25 pm

It is probably not unfair to assume flight ops at AA have already had a look at the numbers for the A330, and passed same on to their route planning boffins. Likewise, it is very plausible both of those departments have said 'not bad for a frog piece of plastique, can we have some more please?'. You know, akin to what every other airline on the planet operating the things have discovered: Used wisely it's a money printing machine, just like the 77W.

Expect AA/US to be operating sizeable fleets of both the A350 and 777X, neo and MAX, etc. - even considering going single source as the largest airline in the world is absurd.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 10:39 pm

Just look what DL has done with their long-haul flying since merging with NW. They have opened up many more destinations because they have aircrafts flying overseas from the 744 to the 752 and everything in between. I don't think it's wise for an airline to have the same fleet for long haul flying because not all markets have equal demand...
 
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Wed May 08, 2013 10:47 pm

The 330s will stay for a while and it wouldn't suprise me to see a swap of
330s to MIA & JFK for some 763s or 777s.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 10:55 pm

Perhaps the A330s would see some use out of MIA to some of those Caribbean, Central and South American cities that used to see the A300s. As we always used to hear around here, AA moved a lot of cargo with the A300 in those markets and now they're down to (mostly) 757s and 738s.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 11:02 pm

Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 6):
Merly by coincidence or done on purpose?

Let's not start the whole "Doug Parker was involved in this decision" nonsense again. If anything, AA was trying to equal CX's product.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 15):
The new AA might reconfigure some of their 763s to two class,

There's no need to reconfigure as all of AA's 763's are currently two class. Only the domestic 762's are three class.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 11:33 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 22):

Before AA retired the A300s they flew them internationally to PAP, MGA, SJU
SDQ, CCS, BOG, & LIM.

All those flights left full every day on the 300s especially freight.

I think the 330s would do good on the BOG & LIM flights if they
do in fact fly from MIA.

Maybe replace the 763s on the MIA/ LAX run with a 330   
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Wed May 08, 2013 11:58 pm

Quoting delawareusa (Reply 17):
The A330-300 were in rough shape when I used to fly them frequently a few years ago.

All US A333s have been refurbed to have the same cabin as the A332s. Pretty decent hard product, IMO. The only negative is the lack of an adjustable headrest in Y.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 12:03 am

Quoting delawareusa (Reply 17):
PHL-CDG is normally on one of their new A330-200, which are in very good shape. The A330-300 were in rough shape when I used to fly them frequently a few years ago.

I was quite pleasantly surprised when I saw that my flight would be operated with an A333, as it is a rare type for someone based out of MEX like me. I was even more surprised when I saw the aircraft was in such good shape, clean, and with the more than decent AVOD that US offers.

Quoting mia305 (Reply 24):
Before AA retired the A300s they flew them internationally to PAP, MGA, SJU
SDQ, CCS, BOG, & LIM.

At some point one of the several daily rotations of MIA-MEX was done with A300s, so it'd be great to see AA reinstate widebody service to MEX from MIA at some point... I don't expect that to happen though.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 12:06 am

The US A333 will stay on the est coast because they are older versions with less range then today's A333. DFW or Miami would be challenging for US A333, SWISS and Lufthansa A333 are more capable that due fly to MIA. ITS most likely the US A333 flet will stay based at PHL and CLT. The A332 could see some DFW or Miami action to Europe, Santiago, Sao Paulo or Buenos Aires. Short haul A300 type flying died with the A300 fleet.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 1:08 am

Quoting delawareusa (Reply 17):
The A330-300 were in rough shape when I used to fly them frequently a few years ago.

They have since seen a cabin refresh, or at least in envoy.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 15):
I think the A330s will go to JFK and MIA while the 763s move to PHL.

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332 20/238
333 28/268

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One thing to note is that the 330s have a rather small premium cabin

The 763s can be a good replacement for existing 762/752 routes as those two exit the fleet. (Aren't US' 752s due to be retired soon?). Though I think a decent number of markets will retain 330s.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 1:10 am

I would hope to see them here at DFW and my home town airport ORD!
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 1:11 am

US is taking delivery of 2 A332's this month IIRC. That is unless they have already received this this past week and I missed it.

The A330's IMO are staying, with the 762's being retired fairly soon after the merger. US had plans to take new A332's and use them to expand Intl flying. If the economy was such that expansion did not make sense at that particular time the A332's would then replace 762's.

I personally would not be surprised to see an expansion of US A350 orders, especially if the A350 launch goes as smoothly as I hope it will. If not and major delays ensure as what happened with the 787's, I believe that more A330's will be ordered or leased, unless AA has some other widebodies on order other than 777 or 787's I am not aware of.

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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 1:20 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):

And considering that the combined airline will be run by US management, I predict that Airbus will be the primary manufacturer for the combined airline and that AA's existing Boeing orders will be cancelled in favor of more Airbus orders.

Do not see that happening. It was not United that decided on the couple of hundred A320/A320neo series.

We have had conspiracy theories going on for years about how AA will never operate Airbus aircraft again after AA587, where are these people now ?

Time will tell what they will do, I see some consolation and updates in the 757/767/A330/772/787/A350 combined fleets.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 1:24 am

Quoting MSYPI7185 (Reply 30):
I personally would not be surprised to see an expansion of US A350 orders, especially if the A350 launch goes as smoothly as I hope it will. If not and major delays ensure as what happened with the 787's, I believe that more A330's will be ordered or leased, unless AA has some other widebodies on order other than 777 or 787's I am not aware of.

I'm not sure about an immediate expansion of the order, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the A358s converted to A359s. The combined airline doesn't really need them (A358s) as much with all their 787s on order. I honestly don't see really any new orders for the A330- between the existing A330 orders/fleet, 763 fleet, the 787 order and the A350 order I don't think they would be in a rush to continue to expand their fleet in that size segment in the near term vs waiting for additional 787s/A350s.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 2:16 am

Hi:

The planes will stay at AA. They will probably get moved to MIA, JFK mostly. PHL A330s will likely be replaced with AA 767-300s. Hope this helps.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 2:18 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):
I predict that Airbus will be the primary manufacturer for the combined airline and that AA's existing Boeing orders will be cancelled in favor of more Airbus orders.

AA will pay a massive penalty if they do that.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 2:42 am

Quoting jetsetter629 (Reply 20):
Just look what DL has done with their long-haul flying since merging with NW. They have opened up many more destinations because they have aircrafts flying overseas from the 744 to the 752 and everything in between.

What non-US destinations has Delta opened up since merging with NW that could not have been opened up prior to the merger?

The fleet/network rationalization so far has helped the new DL better match route demand with the right equipment.
 
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Thu May 09, 2013 3:19 am

Quoting MSYPI7185 (Reply 30):
US is taking delivery of 2 A332's this month IIRC. That is unless they have already received this this past week and I missed it.

This is correct, one aircraft this Friday and the the other next Friday (subject to change) along with two new A321's for the East Fleet by the end of May.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 7:25 am

Thanks everyone!

You have definitely answered my question!

But now what will happen to the A350s on order with US?

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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 7:36 am

Quoting jetsetter629 (Reply 20):

Just a note.

Pretty sure Delta is down in destinations. They just keep cutting and cutting across the Atlantic. (thank goodness for that JV.  )
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Thu May 09, 2013 11:28 am

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 33):
The planes will stay at AA. They will probably get moved to MIA, JFK mostly. PHL A330s will likely be replaced with AA 767-300s. Hope this helps.

Why does every one want to move AA 767 to PHL and CLT and US A330's to Miami and JFK. A330 flying to the Caribean a la A300 is an old concept and massive misuse of an A330 fleet, these planes need to ply the Atlantic or Brazil. Adding another type to the JFK fleet mix helps how ? AA flies their 777 to Tokyo, London and Sao Paulo loaded with cargo and many Business Class passengers, they don't need A330 help on those routes.

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 28):
US
762 18/186
332 20/238
333 28/268

AA
763 30/195
772 16/34/194 (going 2 class?)
773 8/52/250

Moving A330's to Miami and JFK creates another issue, too few Business Class seats. AA's new 773ER has 52 j class seats and US A333 has only 28, half as many. US A330's are suited to their current hubs and should stay there. IF a new route beyond the range of the A330, PHL to NRT say, then an AA 777 could step in. Miami and JFK work so don't fix what ain't broke.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 11:37 am

Quoting kaitak (Reply 3):
There is a new one about to be delivered (though already painted in current US colours).

How many more do they have on order? In fact what does the US order book look like?

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 4):
The US Airways business class is almost identical to the new American business class that rolled out on the 777-300ERs.

Will AA be fitting these same seats to their 772ER? Will either airline be fitting them to their 767s? They must have a bit of life left in them before the 787s arrive.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 11:55 am

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 39):
Why does every one want to move AA 767 to PHL and CLT and US A330's to Miami and JFK.

Because it seems to make sense. There are some markets from PHL/CLT - again, like PHL-DUB and CLT-FRA, where a 763 is probably just about the right level of capacity post-merger, while there are other markets at JFK/MIA where an A330 probably makes more sense. In addition, I also see 2-class AA 777s going to PHL/CLT, too - particularly for LHR.

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 39):
Moving A330's to Miami and JFK creates another issue, too few Business Class seats.

Not necessarily. For some longhaul markets like JFK-FCO, MIA-BCN, etc., the larger J cabin may not be needed.
 
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Thu May 09, 2013 12:26 pm

Quoting commavia (Reply 41):
There are some markets from PHL/CLT - again, like PHL-DUB and CLT-FRA, where a 763 is probably just about the right level of capacity post-merger,

You do realize US currently has two non-stops a day on the CLT-FRA (A332 & A333) route? The loads are very stong on this route. If they downsize this route, it will be one flight a day with a 772 instead of two flights.
 
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Thu May 09, 2013 12:34 pm

Quoting questions (Reply 35):
What non-US destinations has Delta opened up since merging with NW that could not have been opened up prior to the merger?

I'm not saying they have been able to open more destinations, but they can use the 744 capasity to NRT while using the 77L range to open SYD and JNB. NW "could" have flown to both JNB and SYD, but the 744 would not have been the right aircraft.

Look at DL utilization to Latin America - they fly the A332 which opens up more cargo than the 763 - a good example is LIM
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 12:37 pm

Quoting Ryefly (Reply 42):
You do realize US currently has two non-stops a day on the CLT-FRA (A332 & A333) route? The loads are very stong on this route.

On some days this summer, CLT-FRA is double-daily A333.

They pick up a lot of German pax every day, especially among those who are going to Florida.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 12:39 pm

If I look at the US Airways fleet I see 9 A330-300 7 A330-200 and 10 B767-200 all together 28 wide bodies with two A330-200 being added this month. That is out of whole fleet number of 346 frames. 1 wide body to 11 narrow bodies.
That seems to me rather few wide bodies for a major airline but they are at least quite new.

Looking at AA they have 70 B767, 17 of them 15 years or younger, and 53 B777 + 9 on order out of a fleet of 620 airplanes.
That means 1 to 4 wide to narrow.

Combined fleet is about 1 wide body to 5 narrow bodies.


I would imagine that were this airlines had competing flights (similar time, same route), it would be economical to go to one and bigger frame.

I would say the combined fleet is in the need of quite a few midsized wide bodies. I know they ordered B787, but when will they come into the fleet? They need to change out 53 long toothed B767.
I could imagine there would be space for some more A330 before the B787s arrive.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 1:20 pm

Quoting mjoelnir (Reply 45):
If I look at the US Airways fleet I see 9 A330-300 7 A330-200 and 10 B767-200 all together 28 wide bodies with two A330-200 being added this month. That is out of whole fleet number of 346 frames. 1 wide body to 11 narrow bodies.
That seems to me rather few wide bodies for a major airline but they are at least quite new.

2 US 762s are due to be retired this year. Once the merger is complete and cross fleeting takes place I imagine the remaining frames will go pretty quickly.

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 44):
On some days this summer, CLT-FRA is double-daily A333

CLT-Germany likely benefits from the big US hub in CLT. Take that out of the equation and if CLT-FRA stays it will likely be a 763.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 1:35 pm

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 46):
CLT-Germany likely benefits from the big US hub in CLT. Take that out of the equation and if CLT-FRA stays it will likely be a 763.

If the CLT hub is dropped, I think CLT-FRA is done for entirely, at least on US/AA. Read the second line of my post (which you didn't include in your quote):

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 44):
On some days this summer, CLT-FRA is double-daily A333.

They pick up a lot of German pax every day, especially among those who are going to Florida.

The are a lot of German corporations with operations near CLT, but they tend to have strong ties to Lufthansa (and therefore Star Alliance). With US out of *A, I could see LH's MUC-CLT becoming FRA-CLT. Probably on an A343, like ATL or DFW.
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 1:54 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 27):
The US A333 will stay on the est coast because they are older versions with less range then today's A333. DFW or Miami would be challenging for US A333, SWISS and Lufthansa A333 are more capable that due fly to MIA. ITS most likely the US A333 flet will stay based at PHL and CLT. The A332 could see some DFW or Miami action to Europe, Santiago, Sao Paulo or Buenos Aires

Good grief! Again, for the umpteenth time, this is a takeover of AA by US. The Airbus fleet (which is relatively young) is not going anywhere. It operates very profitably for US, and will be profitable for the combined AA/US operation. The hard product is quite competitive with anything else out there and arguably better than some of their competition's both in J and Y (compare it to, say, Iberia, for example which is terrible in comparison). Yes, they may move some to South America (and maybe even some Asian/Hawaii routes), but they are modern, well equipped, and quite profitable to operate.
 
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RE: US Airways Airbus A330s. What Will Happen?

Thu May 09, 2013 1:56 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 15):
I think the A330s will go to JFK and MIA while the 763s move to PHL. The new AA might reconfigure some of their 763s to two class, which would better suit many of PHL's International flights.

AA's 763's ARE two class. They haven't had F for years.