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Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Mon May 13, 2013 3:37 pm

Due to length of the previous thread Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 1 (by Someone83 Jan 3 2013 in Civil Aviation), part two has been started and part one archived. Please feel free to continue the discussion here.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Tue May 14, 2013 6:12 am

To continue the discussion in part one, the traffic figures for the three big Scandinavian in April was as follows:

CPH: 1.962.190
OSL: 1.889.018
ARN: 1.689.720
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Tue May 14, 2013 8:58 am

Seems like Norwegian is expanding their Alicante base in the coming winter. In addition to increased flights and new destinations to Scandinavia, Finland and LGW, they also intend to start operations to MUC, HAM, CGN
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Tue May 14, 2013 2:39 pm

Quoting someone83 (Reply 2):
Seems like Norwegian is expanding their Alicante base in the coming winter.

Actually they are expanding from more airports then just Alicante

Hamburg-Malaga, 3 weekly
Hamburg-Alicante 3 weekly
Hamburg-Gran Canaria, 2 weekly
Hamburg-Tenerife, 2 weekly


Köln-Malaga, 3 weekly
Köln-Alicante, 2 weekly
Köln-Gran Canaria, 2 weekly
Köln-Tenerife, 2 weekly

München-Malaga, 2 weekly
München -Alicante, 2 weekly
München -Tenerife, 2 weekly

I thought Air Berlin had all this covered, will be interesting to see how this works out

Norwegian is also adding more flights to Norway from Tenerife, altough I can't find the schedule right now.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 16, 2013 1:24 pm

Vueling's inaugural flight to OSL from BCN landed 20 minutes ago. Judging from the number of people disembarking the flight coming in was about half full.

Those of us lucky enough to be on the first flight out this afternoon are enjoying refreshments at gate 47A. 
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 16, 2013 3:04 pm

Quoting PavlovsDog (Reply 4):
Vueling's inaugural flight to OSL from BCN landed 20 minutes ago. Judging from the number of people disembarking the flight coming in was about half full.

Those of us lucky enough to be on the first flight out this afternoon are enjoying refreshments at gate 47A.


In 69 pax.
Out 167 pax.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 16, 2013 4:28 pm

A few months after SAS re-started to give frequent flyer points to corporate customer, the government of Norway have decided to scrap the old ban on frequent flyer bonus points on domestic routes
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 16, 2013 8:39 pm

Quoting someone83 (Reply 6):

A few months after SAS re-started to give frequent flyer points to corporate customer, the government of Norway have decided to scrap the old ban on frequent flyer bonus points on domestic routes

SAS says its a good day for the consumers, but the major part of Norwegians are flying between 1 and 5 times each year so I doubt it will affect the competition so much as DY fear. The ban was needed in 2002, but I think its time to move on.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 17, 2013 4:08 am

Seems like flight SK403 Arlanda-Copenhagen on the 26th Oct will be the last ever SAS MD80 fligth in revenue service.

It is already sold out, i was just able to get one of the last seats 

Article only in danish

http://www.check-in.dk/newselement.cfm?nNewsArticleID=76542
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Sat May 18, 2013 5:46 am

Norwegian is expanding their spanish route-network to Scandinavia from this autumn. Apart from the german routes they have also added the following routes
Alicante -Turku eff late OCT13 1 weekly

Tenerife South – Bergen eff 30OCT13 1 weekly
Tenerife South – Oslo Rygge eff 30OCT13 1 weekly
Tenerife South – Oulu eff 30OCT13 1 weekly
Tenerife South – Trondheim eff 28OCT13 1 weekly

Norwegian already operates Tenerife to OSL and TRF in their winter-program. They are also converting Alicante-Tromsø and Alicante-Aalborg to year round service. Both Rygge and Torp will then have two weekly round-trips since Tenerife was introduced by Ryanair from both destinations some weeks ago.

I wonder if they have enough aircrafts, or if you can see this in light of Norwegian threatning to reduce flights to the "smaller" cities in Norway.

This just prooves that norwegians are tired of the crappy weather we have throughout the winter   
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Tue May 21, 2013 7:49 am

Widerøe will start a twice weekly (Fri/Sun) MOL-CPH from September 1, using Q400. This also implies an increase frequency on their BGO-MOL route

According to the press release, the intention is to increase the frequency on MOL-CPH from Spring 2014
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Wed May 22, 2013 6:13 am

With the inagural flights for Easyjet (LGW-BGO) and Vueling (BCN-OSL and BCN-BGO, they started BCN-SVG last year), the question is then what more we'll see from these airlines in Norway?
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Wed May 22, 2013 8:48 am

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 11):
With the inagural flights for Easyjet (LGW-BGO) and Vueling (BCN-OSL and BCN-BGO, they started BCN-SVG last year), the question is then what more we'll see from these airlines in Norway?

I think U2 may think about serving Østlandet... possibly RYG although they tend to prefer main airports so possibly OSL?

I thought maybe they would serve SVG but the London to Stavanger route is pretty saturated as it is with SK, BA and DY. I guess there are possibilities that U2 could set up from other European hubs.

I think there is room for expansion at TRD too as it is quite a regional hub for mid-Norway and even parts of Western Sweden.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Wed May 22, 2013 5:21 pm

There wont be any new significant presence until more slots are available.
Except for new carriers flying in and out around midday, little will happen before 2017.

There where talks about releasing 4-6 new slots pr hour from next summer. However it looks like its on hold until the new terminal is complete.

Easyjet have exciting plans for OSL but it ain't capacity available yet.

In Norway, Gardermoen, Flesland, Sola and Kirkenes are slot restricted.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 23, 2013 7:36 am

Will be interesting to see how U2 performs from BGO as DY already have 12 weekly and BA have 14 weekly departures. For a weekend-trip to London DY have an advantage with flights leaving 09.15 while U2 competes with the late evening departure with DY while BA have a departure around 8pm. I don't think its a market from BGO with 3 operators to London, we have had that before and it ended up with SK pulling out of the market..
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 23, 2013 9:33 am

Quoting someone83 (Reply 6):
A few months after SAS re-started to give frequent flyer points to corporate customer, the government of Norway have decided to scrap the old ban on frequent flyer bonus points on domestic routes

But of course the oinks in the Govt want to work out how to tax points on business travel.

I wonder if Norwegian will also improve their program, I know I'll never fly Norwegian again now that I can get domestic points on SAS, Norwegian will have to do something or they will loose a lot of business customers.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 24, 2013 8:58 am

For those who are interested, a busy Korean day at OSL this weekend.

Today, Asiana are in and out with two aircraft.
Tomorrow Korean Air Cargo will arrive together with the first Korean Air Charter.
The latter planned with a 777-200.

OT: Qatar will also increase their cargo operations from OSL this summer to two weekly departures.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 24, 2013 9:09 am

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 15):
But of course the oinks in the Govt want to work out how to tax points on business travel.

I wonder if Norwegian will also improve their program, I know I'll never fly Norwegian again now that I can get domestic points on SAS, Norwegian will have to do something or they will loose a lot of business customers.

Norwegian expands "Norwegian Reward" to domestic travels where you earn 2% of the amount payed on regular tickets while you get 10% on the flex-tickets. Only time will tell how this affects DY. I try to avoid SK/* Alliance as much as possible but that is just my personal preferences.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 24, 2013 9:54 am

Quoting invaders (Reply 17):
I try to avoid SK/* Alliance as much as possible but that is just my personal preferences.

Why? If you're travelling internationally DY's reward programme does not compare to the advantages of what *A can give you ie lounge access, extra luggage with *A carriers etc.

Another thing is if you travel a lot, you are bound to experience delays or cancellations once in a while. It just happens. I don't have much faith in DY when it comes to rebooking-options. IMO there just isn't the same flexibility as with SK.
Future flights: CPH-BOS; CPH-SVG; CPH-PVG-HKG-MNL-DVO; CPH-CDG; CPH-NRT; CPH-MIA; CPH-PVG
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 24, 2013 11:09 am

Quoting invaders (Reply 17):
Norwegian expands "Norwegian Reward" to domestic travels where you earn 2% of the amount payed on regular tickets while you get 10% on the flex-tickets.

Which isn't very good.

Quoting invaders (Reply 17):
Only time will tell how this affects DY.

I understand that SK will have a domestic lounge in operation by the end of the year and will also allow fast track for domestic flights. Both those benefits will pull a lot of Norwegian travellers back to SK.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 24, 2013 11:57 am

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 19):
I understand that SK will have a domestic lounge in operation by the end of the year and will also allow fast track for domestic flights.

Now, that is something that I've been waiting for. Too bad that for the first time in 8 years, I might not requalify for Star Gold....

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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 24, 2013 1:23 pm

When EK launched ARN I thought to myself it's only a matter of time before DY cuts their ARN-DXB to only one weekly (just like from CPH), or cut the whole route.

Now, I can't seem to find any of the three weekly flights on their website. CPH/OSL-DXB are bookable though.

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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 24, 2013 3:28 pm

Avinor is improving the incentive schemes for intercontinental routes. Start up rebates will be increased from three two five years, and the rates will be slightly higher. In addition, new intercontinental routes can get both start up rebates and passenger growth bonus
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 24, 2013 4:20 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 22):

Avinor is improving the incentive schemes for intercontinental routes. Start up rebates will be increased from three two five years, and the rates will be slightly higher. In addition, new intercontinental routes can get both start up rebates and passenger growth bonus


I guess most people now can figure out whom and the case that brought Avinor to finally realise that they needed to do something......

OSL will now have a similar structure as CPH and ARN.
Fees will still be higher than offered from CPH, but it's one step in the right direction.
The rigid discount system is unchanged and will still favor existing carriers on already served destination.

The other part with market support and assets allocated for attracting new carriers will not improve.
This is what is needed to secure more services.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 24, 2013 4:38 pm

SAS have decided to move their HQ again.

This time they will move back to their old office at Frödundavik in Solna from their
current offices at ARN. They say that the cost at ARN are to high-

http://www.svd.se/naringsliv/bransch...lbaka-sitt-huvudkontor_8205776.svd
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 24, 2013 5:18 pm

Now finally confirmed.

Thai will boosts capacity by almost 25% by switching 777-200 to 747-400 from 27OCT13 on BKK-OSL.
The service will still operate daily. Together with Norwegian, this will almost double the capacity to BKK next winter.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/05/24/tg-w13update1/
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 24, 2013 7:52 pm

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 21):
When EK launched ARN I thought to myself it's only a matter of time before DY cuts their ARN-DXB to only one weekly (just like from CPH), or cut the whole route.

Now, I can't seem to find any of the three weekly flights on their website. CPH/OSL-DXB are bookable though.

/Alex

The DXB-route is just in their winter-program. Just checked norwegian.no and they have 3x weekly from both ARN and OSL while they have one weekly from CPH. Starting 1st week of october from CPH and ARN while OSL starts the last day of september.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Fri May 24, 2013 8:15 pm

I'm aware that it is just seasonal, but check November and onwards. OSL/CPH is bookable, ARN is not.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Sat May 25, 2013 1:13 am

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 25):
Thai will boosts capacity by almost 25% by switching 777-200 to 747-400 from 27OCT13 on BKK-OSL.
The service will still operate daily. Together with Norwegian, this will almost double the capacity to BKK next winter.

Do Thai still have their ancient configured 747's that they were (or still are?) using on CPH and ARN? I made sure to avoid them, but don't know if I'll have to avoid BKK-OSL for the same reason (which would be very unfortunate for me).

-CXfirst
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Sat May 25, 2013 5:15 am

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 28):
Do Thai still have their ancient configured 747's that they were (or still are?) using on CPH and ARN? I made sure to avoid them, but don't know if I'll have to avoid BKK-OSL for the same reason (which would be very unfortunate for me).

From what I've heard, that wont be an issue as the last 744 will be upgraded intime to the W14/14 season starting 27OCT13.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Sat May 25, 2013 5:27 am

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 27):

I'm aware that it is just seasonal, but check November and onwards. OSL/CPH is bookable, ARN is not.

Dont know where u looking but just checked an arbitrary date in Jan and found direct tickets

http://www.norwegian.no/fly/lavpris/...ntainPrice=1058&tracker=TTContinue
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Sun May 26, 2013 5:18 pm

Quoting invaders (Reply 30):
Dont know where u looking but just checked an arbitrary date in Jan and found direct tickets

Must have been a temporary fault on their website. I checked and doublechecked searching through the whole winterseason and even had others check it. Nonstops were not available (except October).
But thanks for checking it out again to clear it up.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Tue May 28, 2013 11:16 am

Flynonstops routes from Kristiansand to Berlin and Paris is cancelled for the summer while the route to Parma is reduced down to one weekly on fridays. Reports are that Fly Nonstop are taking on huge losses on the routes to Berlin and Paris, but promise to bring them back when the summer is over.

I give this company a year, max.

Source: http://www.nrk.no/sorlandet/ma-kutte-ruter-etter-ein-manad-1.11047630
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Tue May 28, 2013 7:39 pm

Some fleet developments:

Norwegian:
- The first of two A340-300s leased from HiFly as a temporarily 787 substitute arrived in OSL today, to begin their first long haul flight in a few days
- LN-NID, their next 737-800 (leased) is nearing delivery from Seattla and should be delivered shortly

SAS
- LN-RGG, their next (leased) 737-800 will be delivered from the Boeing factory today
- SE-RJU, a used (leased) 737-700 will shortly arrive the SAS fleet. This is a former Astraus/Sterling aircraft
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Wed May 29, 2013 6:05 am

http://airlineroute.net/2013/05/29/dy-oslagp-aug13/

As per 29MAY13 GDS inventory display, Norwegian in August 2013 is to operate Boeing 787 aircraft on a number of intra-European service, before entering long-haul operation in the end of August 2013.

At time this post goes to press, Oslo – Malaga service on 01AUG13 and 04AUG13 is displaying Boeing 787 operation on one-way basis.
DY1800 OSL0700 – 1110AGP 788 01AUG13/04AUG13
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Wed May 29, 2013 7:44 am

According to Check-in.dk SAS will sign for new long haul planes later this year, but delivery won't be in the near future.

Wonder what they will be going for and in what quantity. The a358 might be too big for SAS. New A330's with increased MTOW could also be an option.

http://www.check-in.dk/newselement.c...?nNewsArticleID=77254#.UaWwk9IweSo
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Wed May 29, 2013 10:06 am

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 35):
The a358 might be too big for SAS

To small, and the same applies to the 787-8 according to SAS. It will either be 787-9 or 350-900

SAS doesn't have problem filling their long haul seats, but have some issues with their cost and product
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Wed May 29, 2013 4:47 pm

Does anybody know of where to find a (fairly up-to-date) list of which of the SK airplanes that are WiFi equipped?
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Wed May 29, 2013 4:56 pm

Quoting jox (Reply 37):
Does anybody know of where to find a (fairly up-to-date) list of which of the SK airplanes that are WiFi equipped?

Don't have the list, but it is 10 of the 737-800s that has been reconfirgured. SAS has put the rollout of wifi on hold as they're not satisfied with its performance and realibility, but AFAIK Panansonic is working to come up with a solution. But until then, no new planes will get wifi, and it is often not working in those planes that has it installed
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 30, 2013 6:40 am

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 35):
The a358 might be too big for SAS.

They'll probably order it then.     

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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 30, 2013 8:14 am

Will the new Thai 747-400 service from OSL-BKK mean that OSL has more capacity than the CPH-BKK route, which has gone to to a 77W?

Also, I guess it is the first scheduled 744 passenger service to OSL?
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 30, 2013 9:09 am

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 40):
Will the new Thai 747-400 service from OSL-BKK mean that OSL has more capacity than the CPH-BKK route, which has gone to to a 77W?

Also, I guess it is the first scheduled 744 passenger service to OSL?


Both ARN and CPH will have more flights than OSL with Thai next winter, so the answer is no.
9 weekly ARN/CPH (2 via Phuket) and 7 weekly from OSL.

However both ARN and OSL will have more seats to BKK than CPH in total, when DY starts up with their 3 weekly.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 30, 2013 10:24 am

Flynonstop have announced their winter programme:

"New destinations from 28 October:
Stockholm: Tue, Thu and Sun
Dublin: Thu and Sun
Alicante: Sat

From January 2014:
Manchester: Mon and Fri
St. Gallen: Wed and Sat from Kristiansand and Ålesund

In addition, the winter program as follows:

London: Mon, Wed, Thu and Sun
Paris: Thu and Sun

In Palma we have extended the season through September and Dubrovnik through October."
from Flynonstop Facebook page.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 30, 2013 12:47 pm

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 41):

And TG will most likely continue to use the 744 to OSL on a daily basis also S14.

It wasn't a long time ago we hardly thought TG could fill a 3w 772 to OSL winter only. I guess we were very wrong... 
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 30, 2013 2:28 pm

Quoting arn777 (Reply 43):
And TG will most likely continue to use the 744 to OSL on a daily basis also S14.It wasn't a long time ago we hardly thought TG could fill a 3w 772 to OSL winter only. I guess we were very wrong...


You are absolutely right. It also says a lot of the potential for new carriers beyond Thai to Asia from OSL.

On the other hand, its important to know that the Thai market didn't explode overnight with twice the numbers of seats expected to be sold. This is as much a strategic move as it's to cope with increasing demand. Some airports use such strategic moves by airlines to boost their own market potential and awareness externally to attract even more carriers, however I think OSL are for once doing it right by keeping it low and in the hands of the airlines. It's dangerous to be tempted by thinking that the marked must be a hit just because two carriers are scaling up against each other.

Similar moves are seen by many airport and airlines especially on intra European services, but rarely lasts more than a season when the woons are cleaned up and the revenue management are summarising the battle.

TG's OSL service has for long brought far less capacity than the actual demand to/from OSL-BKK, so an increase should not come as any surprise. I wish them both the best of luck and I know they both will suceed!
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 30, 2013 3:43 pm

DY7001, Norwegian's inagural OSL-JFK (using a leased HiFly 340-300 due to the 787 delays) will shortly depart OSL. After arriving JFK, the aircraft will fly JFK-ARN to start Norwegian's ARN-JFK service. OSL-BKK and ARN-BKK start in a few day, although with a rather limited frequency untill the second aircraft is in traffic late June

At the same time the expansion of OSL goes forward and the main change for the passengers from today is that the five middle gates (28, 30, 32, 34 and 36) will close to enable the building of the north pier. At the same time the new taxiway will open together with 5 or 6 new remote stand, to temporarily replace the lost gate capacity. So prepare for more bussing when travelling from OSL the next 4,5 years
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 30, 2013 4:45 pm

Now that it's official!

Norwegian ads a fourth weekly rotation from OSL to JFK from 29NOV13.

More to come.....

[Edited 2013-05-30 10:01:14]
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 30, 2013 4:50 pm

Great news! SK/VX interline agreement in effect! What a great complement to SK's USA ports of call!
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 30, 2013 5:37 pm

Quoting ArmchairCEO (Reply 47):

Now that is a step up. So now they offer onward domestic fights on UA, AA and VX. More is better!
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2013 - Part 2

Thu May 30, 2013 6:39 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 40):
Also, I guess it is the first scheduled 744 passenger service to OSL

I thought Thai had used their 744's on OSl before. Long time ago thoguh. ..Before they started using their A340 aand B777's ?

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