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Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Thu May 16, 2013 7:20 pm

This news just came in:

> EasyJet's fleet replacement order will not just be from Airbus or Boeing but will also include the CSeries.
> Sub-150 seater needed for routes with low passenger demand.
> Order could be officially announced during the Bourget airshow.
> Also talks about an Air Canada order for 100+ planes with the possible inclusion of the CSeries; to be announced in the coming months.

Article in French here.
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Thu May 16, 2013 7:27 pm

Sweet! Please God let it turn into reality. I can't help but think, however, that they are probably only half-serious at best about the type, but perhaps I'm being a little harsh and cynical?
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Thu May 16, 2013 7:31 pm

Interesting, EasyJet are still taking new A320 aircraft.
 
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Thu May 16, 2013 7:33 pm

Great, would love to see some more orders for the CSeries! Wouldn't mind seeing a few here at MAN  
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Thu May 16, 2013 8:44 pm

Would not surprise me - they don't need the range of the A319neo on most of their routes, and the lighter CSeries should kill the neo economically intra-Europe. They should also be able to get the CSeries earlier than a neo, due to the neo having sold so well.

I do see the A320neo/ 737 - MAX 8 in U2's future though....
 
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Thu May 16, 2013 9:32 pm

Nice to see that the CSeries is back among the options for easyJet's fleet replacement!
I say back, because it was already disclosed by McCall that the options they were looking at were Airbus, Boeing and Bombardier. Then since november last year, every article concerning the easyJet fleet replacement only mentioned Airbus and Boeing!
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Thu May 16, 2013 9:48 pm

Interesting if this did happen, but I am not too sure it will any time soon...

I have read earlier this week, that easyJet are unlikely to place any orders until towards the end of the year, as they will have a fight in their hands with Stelios, who is against growth and wants to instead focus on maximising the profits of the business.

Also I have read on here and in other news articles, that easyJet has previously regretted purchasing the A319, and would rather focus on an aircraft in the 150-200 seat market, hence why we are seeing the growth of the A320 in the fleet...

These articles have previously stated the operating costs of the A319 compared to the A320 are negligible for the airline, and the extra seats they can sell on busy flights, far out weighs the empty seats on quieter flights that they might be able to fill on an A319 compared to an A320.

Initially when the A319's were ordered, easyJet's business model was to fly aircraft in the 150 seat range, hence why they were flying 737-300/700's at the time. But as they have seen their business grow and have followed the trend with other Low Cost Carriers that now consider the 737-800 and A320, as the standard for this sector of the airline industry.
 
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Thu May 16, 2013 9:53 pm

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 6):
ut as they have seen their business grow and have followed the trend with other Low Cost Carriers that now consider the 737-800 and A320, as the standard for this sector of the airline industry.

So why not go one step further and go 739/321?
 
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Thu May 16, 2013 9:54 pm

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 6):
These articles have previously stated the operating costs of the A319 compared to the A320 are negligible for the airline

That may be true, but on most of their sectors, the CSeries should handily beat the A320neo in terms of efficiency, so unless you are filling the extra 30-odd seats, the CSeries makes sense (ignoring fleet commonality etc for now!).
 
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Thu May 16, 2013 10:03 pm

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 6):

The point is, if they actually take the CS300, it will have the same CASM as a 180-seat A320neo, while having a substantially lower trip cost and lower fuel burn.
They currently have 155x A319 (156-seat) and 57x A320 (180-seat) +13 A320 still on order (source: Airbus).
I guess that even if they will aim at growing in terms of seating capacity, they would still need a 150-160 seat sized aircraft. Otherwise it would be a massive upgauge in capacity.
I think that easyJet could place an order for something like 50 CS300 and 100 A320neo (plus additional option to convert as needed). And if they want to increase further their seat capacity they could add some A321neo....
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Thu May 16, 2013 10:05 pm

Story in English in Montreal Gazette:

EasyJet hints at CSeries order

MONTREAL— It sounds unusually categorical: easyJet Airline Co., it appears, is about to order some CSeries airliners from Bombardier Inc., perhaps at the Paris air show next month.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/busin...s+CSeries+order/8396899/story.html
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Fri May 17, 2013 5:27 am

If this comes true, this will be the equivalent of JetBlue's famous E190 order.

A certain member of this forum will have to put his foot in his mouth when that happens.

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Fri May 17, 2013 6:53 am

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 6):
Also I have read on here and in other news articles, that easyJet has previously regretted purchasing the A319, and would rather focus on an aircraft in the 150-200 seat market, hence why we are seeing the growth of the A320 in the fleet...

Well, they've discovered that flying an A320 isn't that much more expensive than an A319, and those extra seats are almost 'free'. Same reason why many airlines go for the 738 rather than the 73G.
It will be different with the CS300 though, it will be a lot cheaper to fly than the A319 and also the A320NEO. So it would make very good sense to have a fleet of CS300's for thinner routes. In the end, I expect the bigger part of U2's fleet to be A320NEO's, but at least 1/3 fleet CS300's       Can´t really imagine U2 ordering the 737MAX   
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Fri May 17, 2013 8:48 am

Yes, it seemed curious that U2 bought the 73G/A319 when FR went (exclusively) for the larger 738.

An order for the C series from a respected LCC like U2 would be a massive vote of confidence in the programme, I'm sure U2 could negotiate a very good deal that reflects that...
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Fri May 17, 2013 11:45 am

Love the variety that this order could provide to the increasingly uniforms fleets at the UK airports.

Interesting that single type, single offering Low Cost carriers are gradually morphing into legacy carriers with mixed fleets and multiple hubs. They;ll be going longhaul soon!
 
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Fri May 17, 2013 12:03 pm

A report In the UK press yesterday clearly stated that the 319 is too small for u2 and they are looking towards more 320 sized planes. This of course is totally at odds with this thread.
 
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Fri May 17, 2013 12:49 pm

I can only hope this happens. After Bombardier lost some large orders, this could be the game changing order. The C-series needs just *one* large order (50+) to put itself on the map. The type has enough smaller orders to launch from.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 1):

Sweet! Please God let it turn into reality.

I think we're on the same page.  
Quoting Pugman211 (Reply 2):
Interesting, EasyJet are still taking new A320 aircraft.

I bet they still take A321NEOs. But a reasonably large C-series order will give them *far* more negotiating leverage.

Quoting arrow (Reply 10):
perhaps at the Paris air show next month.

I hoped for a few C-series orders at Paris. I'd be happy with just one large order...

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 11):

If this comes true, this will be the equivalent of JetBlue's famous E190 order.

  

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 15):

A report In the UK press yesterday clearly stated that the 319 is too small for u2

Too small for the per flight costs. G4 (or was it NK?) noted that the A320 has a 14% lower CASM than the A319. As we already known:

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 12):
Well, they've discovered that flying an A320 isn't that much more expensive than an A319,

Which is why I'm surprised anyone is ordering the A319NEO as the cost delta will shrink! Same with the -7MAX. Why did WN order that size?

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 13):
I'm sure U2 could negotiate a very good deal that reflects that...

   I hope this deal goes through...

We can now suspect for whom the high density C-series was targeting...

Now to see if any of the rumors of FlyDubai and the C-series pan out... That is the only other large order I've heard potential on since AirAsia turned down the C-series. But that would be announced at the Dubai air show, not Paris...

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Fri May 17, 2013 1:18 pm

Does the C-Series have the range to fly all of easyJet's routes with a full load, in a high density configuration?

For example easyJet flies MAN/LTN-SSH which is around 2500 miles!

The only source I can see is on WIkipedia, where the given maximum range is 2950 miles, but that is highly unlikely to be the range at maximum weight. As the ranges usually quoted are in a lower config and flying in optimum conditions.
 
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Fri May 17, 2013 1:24 pm

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 17):
Does the C-Series have the range to fly all of easyJet's routes with a full load, in a high density configuration?

   Not yet. There will be range improvements with time and the A319s won't go away quickly.

The C-series save a fortune in fuel. A sub-fleet makes sense. As others have noted, about 1/3rd of their fleet.

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Fri May 17, 2013 2:58 pm

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 17):
Does the C-Series have the range to fly all of easyJet's routes with a full load, in a high density configuration?

For example easyJet flies MAN/LTN-SSH which is around 2500 miles!

I am quite positive CSeries will not be flown by easyJet on such route, if purchased. That's A320Neo/737MAX - type route, for 180 passenger configuration.
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Fri May 17, 2013 3:04 pm

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 19):
For example easyJet flies MAN/LTN-SSH which is around 2500 miles!
I am quite positive CSeries will not be flown by easyJet on such route, if purchased. That's A320Neo/737MAX - type route, for 180 passenger configuration.

Or even A321NEO...   
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Fri May 17, 2013 5:07 pm

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 20):
Or even A321NEO...

Concur. I see U2 upgauging most (if not all future orders) to the A321.

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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Fri May 17, 2013 5:28 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 16):
AirAsia turned down the C-series

What happened to this? Why did they get turned down? Is there the possibility of an order in the future now that Air Asia will be going into the competitive Indian and Philippine markets?

What other airlines are potential C-Series customers?
 
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Fri May 17, 2013 5:44 pm

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 17):
Does the C-Series have the range to fly all of easyJet's routes with a full load, in a high density configuration?

No, but it has the range to fly the vast majority of them, hence why it's a serious contender. A320neo/A321neo can cover the other routes which the CSeries can't fly/ require more capacity
 
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Fri May 17, 2013 5:58 pm

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 22):
What happened to this? Why did they get turned down?

Leahy made Tony F. an offer he could not refuse. Godfather style.

[Edited 2013-05-17 10:59:23]

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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Fri May 17, 2013 6:07 pm

CS100/300 and A320/321NEO... that would be one heck of a fleet.

Even if they don't go for the smaller CS100 as well, the CS300 will make a huge difference to shorter regional routes where frequency is more important than price for a good proportion of the market.

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 22):
What other airlines are potential C-Series customers?

Anyone operating large regional jets, the A318/319, the 736/73G or the B717/MD87. Quite a few in other words.


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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Fri May 17, 2013 7:04 pm

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 22):
Is there the possibility of an order in the future now that Air Asia will be going into the competitive Indian and Philippine markets?

When? November:
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....e-xml/awx_11_23_2012_p0-520457.xml

There is hope in the future for AirAsia, but not this round. Wait two years or so...


Quoting dforce1 (Reply 22):
What other airlines are potential C-Series customers?

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Gulf Air (if they get in better financial health). The C-series is ideal for the mid-east.

Every small European airline will be given a sales pitch.

We hear about AC/Westjet, but I think they'll sit on the sidelines for a few years.

IMHO, the airframe would serve B6 or DL very well... Yes, I'm aware of DL's 717 T-Tail fetish...

UA talked to Bombardier, but I have heard nothing in the years since and with the Embraer order, it looks grim for Bombardier. I expect UA is a no go  http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/...ed-to-consider-bombardier-cseries/

The only big sales campaigns that I was aware of were Easyjet, FlyDubai (still going), and Air Asia.
We can talk about LH, but they'll wait until LZ proves out the CS100s.

Bombardier has an issue, until production ramps up, costs are high. Until they can sell more, they will find it tougher to compete. If they can break 400 orders, the economics change both for building and supporting the plane. The current book is at 145. U2 could add about 50 more easily and start the 'game change.' IMHO, Bombardier will offer a better deal due to the need to push orders over 200 for marketing purposes.

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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Fri May 17, 2013 7:57 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 16):
Why did WN order that size?

Even though it makes better headlines to talk about the first -7 sales, in reality, this is a deferral. They put off their original order for 30 -700's to be ordered in the next couple of years, and ordered -7's to be delivered a few years later.

That being said, WN can take -8's, (which I suspect they will do), or even if they're feeling wacky -9's, instead of the -7's.

Even though I don't think it would take a lot of effort to shrink the -8, it's probably in Boeing's best interest to 'encourage' customers to go with the -8 instead of the -7.

With both Boeing and Airbus delaying their smallest single aisles until last, I suspect they are tacitly ceding the under 150 seat market to the CSeries. I have my doubts that the MAX -7 and the 319 NEO ever see the light of day.

The real fight will be if, (I believe 'when'), BBD offers a CS500, with seating of up to as high as 180.

As for Easyjet, the CSeries has had so many announced 'almost' orders that came to nothing that I'll wait until it actually happens before passing out cigars.

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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Fri May 17, 2013 8:13 pm

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 22):
What other airlines are potential C-Series customers?

Also add on BAe-146/ARJ and Fokker operators.

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Fri May 17, 2013 8:19 pm

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 27):
As for Easyjet, the CSeries has had so many announced 'almost' orders that came to nothing that I'll wait until it actually happens before passing out cigars.

I think it may happen this time. U2 is the kind of progressive airline that might see the value in this and be prepared to take the risk. Bravo if it works out.

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Fri May 17, 2013 8:38 pm

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 27):
As for Easyjet, the CSeries has had so many announced 'almost' orders that came to nothing that I'll wait until it actually happens before passing out cigars.

  

I'll believe it when I see the airplane fly in U2 colors. I have a feeling they might just use the CSeries as a bait.

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Sun May 19, 2013 7:10 am

Quoting atct (Reply 28):
Also add on BAe-146/ARJ and Fokker operators.

Who is the largest operator of Bae-146 aircraft? Have they considered the C-Series yet? I know the Swiss order is to replace their Bae-146 fleet.
 
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Sun May 19, 2013 7:27 am

C-series is the best choice below 150 seats IMO. But where does a fleet size start to pay in commonality?

In these days when every drop of fuel counts I am surpriced that we have not seen more C-series orders.

The A319/737-700 are really suboptimal compared.
 
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Sun May 19, 2013 10:27 am

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 31):

Also Malmo Aviation will replace its whole fleet of Avro RJ with CS100 and 300.

Quoting sweair (Reply 32):
But where does a fleet size start to pay in commonality?

During the "investors day" in March, where the FTV1 was showcased, Nico Buchholz (fleet management-LH Group), said that fleet commonality benefits diminish when an airline buys at least 20 of the type.
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Sun May 19, 2013 11:13 am

Quoting golfradio (Reply 30):
I'll believe it when I see the airplane fly in U2 colors. I have a feeling they might just use the CSeries as a bait.

This, of course, is the biggest fear here - that the C Series will purely be used to extract a better deal from the original favourites.
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Sun May 19, 2013 11:26 am

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 24):
Leahy made Tony F. an offer he could not refuse. Godfather style.

Tony and John are personal friends, I hardly doubt is was "Godfather style".
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Sun May 19, 2013 11:32 am

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 34):
This, of course, is the biggest fear here

Fear for who ? The thousands of Airbus (or Boeing) employees will not be fearing it.
 
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Sun May 19, 2013 4:25 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 16):
Which is why I'm surprised anyone is ordering the A319NEO as the cost delta will shrink! Same with the -7MAX. Why did WN order that size?

As I mentioned earlier, virtually everyone on here was surprised when AA announced their 65 A319CEO order last month (along with the 65 A321CEO's). Conventional wisdom on A.net is why would AA be "saddling" themselves with the A319 for 15-20 years... yet they did. And don't be surprised when AA will be choosing some A319NEO's later this year when they split out the 130 NEO family orders they have with deliveries starting in 2017. The same will happen with MAX orders. Many carriers will be splitting their orders among all the variants, including the -7.

Quoting sweair (Reply 32):
C-series is the best choice below 150 seats IMO. But where does a fleet size start to pay in commonality?

It really all depends upon the individual carrier as each has a different threshold for various reasons.

Quoting sweair (Reply 32):
In these days when every drop of fuel counts I am surpriced that we have not seen more C-series orders.

Because it is much more than just about "every drop of fuel" that counts... it is total costs - not just the "0-60" numbers. Look no further than the Airbus/CFM deal for Frontier.

Quoting Paolo92 (Reply 33):
During the "investors day" in March, where the FTV1 was showcased, Nico Buchholz (fleet management-LH Group), said that fleet commonality benefits diminish when an airline buys at least 20 of the type.

Yes, but it is all relative... 20 would work for LH for several reasons. A while ago he also said that the CSeries would outperform the A380 and the 747-8, which is true for LH's LF's and configuration, etc.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 34):
This, of course, is the biggest fear here - that the C Series will purely be used to extract a better deal from the original favourites.

They can still use the CSeries as a chip... and... still end up ordering it if all the purchasing criteria still lines up for them.
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Sun May 19, 2013 5:56 pm

Quoting by738 (Reply 36):
Fear for who ? The thousands of Airbus (or Boeing) employees will not be fearing it.

I would have thought it was obvious by implication, but just in case it really does need spelling out - for those of us who are aviation enthusiasts and like seeing more than just A or B on any given day.
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Sun May 19, 2013 6:15 pm

I really think the C Series is just starting to get warmed up. I think it will sell like hot cakes!
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Mon May 27, 2013 2:27 pm

From Aspire Aviation:

UK’s easyJet likely to defect to Boeing 737 MAX, Bombardier CSeries

http://www.aspireaviation.com/2013/0...27/boeing-lost-grounds-all-fronts/
 
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Mon May 27, 2013 3:18 pm

For utilization, crew, maintenance etc. the capacity to switch 2 aircraft easily is very cost effective.

So how a sub fleet would make sense ? to have a smaller aircraft to open more destinations ? but small destinations are traditionally low yield as well, and do not require frequencies. Therefore as Ryanair is doing, if the destination is small, just operate less frequencies.
Damaging 80% of the operations for some kind of gain on 20% of the network does not seem logical. In addition it goes against the trend of larger aircraft being used. So if it happens It would be interesting to see their plans.

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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Tue May 28, 2013 11:46 am

Quoting Paolo92 (Reply 5):
The CS300XCS (eXtra Capacity Seating) is comparable to the U2 A319s at 156 seats.

A bit off topic, but why go for a 156 seat aircraft if it needs 1 more flight attendant than a 149 seat aircraft? How many of those last 7 seats on an A319 need to be filled to pay the cost of 1 more flight attendant? Now that a sub 150 seat aircraft is available, why not buy that?

CS300 + A320 seems a better mix than A319 + A320 to me. Commonality issue: what is the minimum CS300 sub-fleet size required to overcome the commonality advantages of flying A319 if CS300 CASM is significantly lower than A319?
 
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Tue May 28, 2013 11:52 am

Basically the decision for U2 is whether they want a split fleet or not. If they do, the CSeries is a perfect fit.
IMO U2 has reached a fleet size where a split is viable. Commonality was king in the 90's when fuel was dirt cheap, but nowadays the numbers are more complex and it can make sense, for large enough airlines, to have subfleets optimized for each mission. A CS300 / A320/321NEO combo would be ideal in that sense.

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 13):
it seemed curious that U2 bought the 73G/A319 when FR went (exclusively) for the larger 738.
Quoting Aither (Reply 41):
to have a smaller aircraft to open more destinations ? but small destinations are traditionally low yield as well, and do not require frequencies. Therefore as Ryanair is doing, if the destination is small, just operate less frequencies.

Keep in mind FR and U2 have different business models. FR doesn't mind flying only twice weekly to fill a 738 to a small regional destination as they are chasing the leisure holiday traveler. U2 flies to main airports and likes to maintain higher frequencies to cater to the cost-conscious business traveler. Therefore, in order to not fly empty aircraft around, U2 has to have a smaller aircraft size. Nevertheless, for the trunk routes they are increasingly upgauging to A320's.
 
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Tue May 28, 2013 12:29 pm

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 27):
That being said, WN can take -8's, (which I suspect they will do), or even if they're feeling wacky -9's, instead of the -7's.

Deferred orders... Now that makes sense.

Quoting r2rho (Reply 43):

Basically the decision for U2 is whether they want a split fleet or not. If they do, the CSeries is a perfect fit.

   I guess we'll find out in a few weeks if the order went through...

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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Tue May 28, 2013 12:43 pm

Quoting art (Reply 42):
CS300 + A320 seems a better mix than A319 + A320 to me. Commonality issue: what is the minimum CS300 sub-fleet size required to overcome the commonality advantages of flying A319 if CS300 CASM is significantly lower than A319?

I agree and would add... are U2's 319s perhaps a bit more valuable on the used-a/c market than other 319s because of their slightly higher density potential.. for those airlines not willing to fork over or wait for the next generation NEO/MAX/CSeries?
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Fri May 31, 2013 9:10 pm

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 27):
As for Easyjet, the CSeries has had so many announced 'almost' orders that came to nothing that I'll wait until it actually happens before passing out cigars.

Agreed. I too fear that this is more a pressure tactic than a genuine buy. Unfortunately, Bombardier has no choice but to be used as a foil if that's what it is.

I can't see an LCC which relies on frequent refreshes of the fleet, risking capital on an airplane pre-EIS. They need to know how it does in service, to determine how it will sell after they are done with it.

That said, I do hope, deep down, that U2 has seen the merits of the airplane and that this is a sincere buy.
 
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Fri May 31, 2013 9:24 pm

There will be definite advantages of the CSeries over the 319NEO and -7 MAX. Unlike those two whose economics will not be significantly better than their larger brethren, the CS300 will have economic advantages great enough to warrant using planes of the sub 150 seat range.

Should Easyjet choose to go with a CSeries subfleet, they would buy in numbers large enough to overcome the economics of commonality.

I do give these rumours somewhat more credence than the Air Asia ones, but I will still hold back celebrating until an official announcement.
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:08 am

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 47):
Should Easyjet choose to go with a CSeries subfleet

Yes, that is a possibility... stranger things have happened.  
Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 47):
Unlike those two whose economics will not be significantly better than their larger brethren, the CS300 will have economic advantages great enough to warrant using planes of the sub 150 seat range.

Now, with the addition of 6-9 seats to the -7, the MAX continues chips away at the margin advantage. However, too many people (just about everyone) just focuses on the operating economics and not the "total cost package"... and that is where A and B shoot the CSeries out of the air (unless the BBD is prepared to sacrifice profitability to land Easyjet as a customer).
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RE: Possible CSeries Order By EasyJet

Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:39 am

Quoting planemaker (Reply 48):
Now, with the addition of 6-9 seats to the -7, the MAX continues chips away at the margin advantage.

...to no avail, having only the 30 deferred -700 orders from WN, and they are more than likely going to be converted to -8's in the next 5 years when they decide to get their order fulfilled.

They not only haven't shot the CSeries out of the air, nobody wants their planes which directly compete. The CSeries at least has the excuse of being brand new as a reason to hold back sales...the -7 MAX and the 319NEO have decades of history to fall back on as a springboard to sales, and they're still getting outsold by a plane which hasn't even flown yet.

It is unlikely any -7 MAX or 319's ever get sold as anything other than business jets.
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