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Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Tue May 21, 2013 1:04 am

Greetings once again to all A.net patrons and welcome to the 105th instalment of Caribbean Aviation.

As always, there is never a dull moment in this region''s air transportation industry. Economic instability consistently fueled by brash political expediency has been the name of the game for decades. As other regions such as Latin America, Asia and the Middle East move full speed ahead in shaping a sustainable industry for their air transportation sectors, unfortunately, the Caribbean continues to be plagued by internal legacy issues. We continue to revolve between progress and regression. It is certainly hoped that like Latin America and the Middle East which previously endured a prolonged dark political and economical misfortunes; that we can eventually produce a sustainable yet robust market-driven air transportation sector that all of us can admire.



******NEWS FEED******
Air Jamaica Shuttle suspends services citing financial issues
Tropic Air to start 3x weekly RTB in Q4 2013 with C208
Tropic launches 6x weekly BZE-CUN service Mar. 25/2013
DAE hires new Chief Commercial Officer
DAE receives 3rd MD83 through Falcon Air
AA rumored to begin MIA-GEO and MIA-PBM
AA commences weekly service to PTP and FDF with B738
TAB gets relief with expected new winter Novair A332 service from ARN and CPH
BW touted to get flag carrier status from GND
BW receives flag carrier status from GEO
KX to begin DFW service May 25
SXM continues modernization with self check-in kiosks
B6 to begin daily ORD-SJU service starting Nov. 20/2013
LI launches daily DOM-SJU service
LI now offers nonstop SXM-SJU service
LI performs proving flight into OGL with DHC8
FlyJam receives good reviews from disapora
BW slashes KIN operations by 50%..looking at cutting more staff
BW loses $US70M in 2012....close to $US150M in debt
LI cries foul at BW's fuel subsidy arrangement with GORTT
LI gears up to receive first ATR-42-600 series...still seeks financing for rest of fleet
UA to start 1x weekly B738 EWR-UVF service on July 13/2013
BW board dismissed by the GORTT Finance Minister after irregularities in corporate governance uncovered
GORTT appoints new interim board to CAL; will perform diagnostic review of operations and appoint a CEO



Enjoy the thread!
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Tue May 21, 2013 1:15 am

Is BWs new board any better than the old one?
 
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Tue May 21, 2013 4:15 am

Quoting guyanam (Reply 1):
Is BWs new board any better than the old one?

I'm glad you asked and I'm pleased to say yes......very much so. The events leading up to the change required nothing less than a 180 degree turn around in the GORTT's attitude towards running the company. They are currently very embarassed with the whole situation and have left Finance Minister Larry Howai a big mess to clean up. That said, Howai is probably the only credible person in the current GORTT with his private sector background and his many awards for his leadership style in the banking sector. That said, he did not seek Cabinet approval to remove the board nor did he seek the approval of the persons he selected for the interim board. This demonstrates his no nonsense attitude from hence forth because he has publicly accepted responsibility for CAL's mess as it now falls under his purview.

That said, the members of the new interim board are as follows:

Phillip Marshall (director of Strategic Management Office at Finance Ministry)
Vishnu Dhanpaul (permanent secretary at Ministry of Energy)
Indira Ramkissoon (attorney, current board member Occupational Safety and Health Authority)
Patricia Kong-Ting (finance and risk management consultant)
Dennis Lalor (Jamaican business tycoon).


Howai Takes Blame (with CNC3 video)

"Former independent senator Phillip Marshall was yesterday given the responsibility to take Caribbean Airlines into clearer skies. In making the announcement yesterday, Finance Minister Larry Howai said an interim board headed by Marshall had been given a fresh mandate to restructure the cash-strapped airline. Marshall’s unit replaced the old board led by businessman Rabindra Moonan.


Jamaican government representative Dennis Lalor was the lone survivor of the old board. Moonan, CAL vice-chairman Mohan Jaikaran, Avedanand Persad, Venosh Sagewan-Maraj and Gizelle Russell are all gone. The decision to disband the old board followed a T&T Guardian exclusive report on May 8, which revealed Jaikaran had allegedly received 19 complimentary airline tickets for Mother’s Day concerts in New York and Toronto last week."

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2013-...leads-new-caribbean-airlines-board


"Air Jamaica not to blame for CAL’s losses"

"The only Caribbean Airlines (CAL) director who wasn’t fired from the board yesterday says he’s very concerned about the financial health of the national carrier.
The surviving director, Jamaican businessman Denis Lalor, told the Express yesterday shortly after the CAL board was fired by Finance Minister Larry Howai that he does not believe the acquisition by CAL of Air Jamaica’s routes in 2011 was the reason the company has found itself facing multi-million-dollar losses.
Lalor was the only member of the former CAL board to be included in the new composition, which was announced by Howai yesterday after the board was fired.
Lalor said he was informed there would be changes to the board, and he was hopeful the new board would turn the company around."

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/...ame-for-CALs-losses-207961801.html

"CAL board sacked"

"SAYING he accepts blame for governance systems at national carrier, Caribbean Airlines Ltd (CAL), Finance Minister Larry Howai yesterday fired all but one member of the CAL board.

He appointed of a new interim board and said the immediate mandate of interim chairman Phillip Marshall, “will be to do a detailed diagnostic review of CAL and provide detailed recommendations on the way forward.”

The firing of the CAL board led by Rabindra Moonan came after allegations that CAL’s former vice-chairman Mohan Jaikaran may have abused his position to promote private business interests. During a news conference at the Eric Williams Financial Complex in Port-of-Spain, to announce the appointment of CAL’s new board, Howai was asked if he accepts responsibility for events at the airline since it was shifted from the Transport Ministry to his ministry last June."

http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,177820.html


The new individuals on the board possess quite impressive resumes,commanding influential roles in major multi-billion coporations like Ernst and Young, RBC and the IMF prior to their current public sector positions. As Howai stated, this is an interim board installed to do a comprehensive diagnostic of the carrier as well as appoint competent talent to key positions. Howai especially stressed the CEO position; all of us have been chanting for this to happen.

It also appears that Howai is not buying into the old board's propaganda of KIN being the root of CAL's problems. He stated that the new chairman's job will be to help stabilize the KIN operations through his many business relationships he already holds in the Jamaican business community. Dennis Lalor is also hopeful that the KIN operations can now be treated with the care it deserves through prudent management initiatives. With all of this, it is a definite indication that KIN is integral to CAL's survival and it must work to the benefit of all stakeholders involved.

The long road to recovery has begun. I will not hold my breath on anything, however, as long as CAL remains under Howai, the airline will see much better days ahead.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Tue May 21, 2013 4:25 am

"New chairman Marshall wants ‘clean’ CAL"

Finance Minister Larry Howai said yesterday new Caribbean Airlines (CAL) chairman Philip Marshall got the job because of his career experience, especially in Jamaica.
“He was the first chairman of the Corporate Governance Commission for the private sector in Jamaica and you know we have some challenges in Jamaica. Also, because of his background, he has experience generally dealing with turnaround situation,” Howai told the Express yesterday outside the Hyatt Regency (Trinidad), Port of Spain.
He noted that only the Trinidadian members of CAL’s board were removed, with Jamaican Denis Lalor as the only one retained, as he had been appointed by the Jamaican government."

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/busin...all-wants-clean-CAL-208237031.html
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Tue May 21, 2013 2:11 pm

Quoting BW424 (Reply 2):
The surviving director, Jamaican businessman Denis Lalor, told the Express yesterday shortly after the CAL board was fired by Finance Minister Larry Howai that he does not believe the acquisition by CAL of Air Jamaica’s routes in 2011 was the reason the company has found itself facing multi-million-dollar losses.

Is part of the reason for Caribbean Airlines to keep Mr. Lalor also to attempt to correct its image in Jamaica seeing how nobody wants Caribbean Airlines there (at least as per the Jamaican thread)?

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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Tue May 21, 2013 2:28 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):

Well, I wouldn't say keeping Mr Lalor on board was a diplomatic move to try and salvage CAL's image in Jamaica. He really has nothing to do with the mess caused by the former board. He was certainly the most credible on the former board. Even if he was not of such good calibre, the GORTT cannot remove him as Jamaica has a 16% share in the carrier and the agreement calls for one Jamaican representative.

That said, this change is certainly in the right direction and the Finance Minister is alllowed to, CAL will rebound in due course. The frightening variable factors are the people he is surrounded by who have no integrity whatsoever.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Tue May 21, 2013 2:47 pm

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
TAB gets relief with expected new winter Novair A332 service from ARN and CPH

Nice.
Didn't know TAB was a known destination for the Nordic leisure market.
What % of TAB tourists actually are curious about POS - Trinidad Island (when it's not Carnival) and make their way there for a quick visit?
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Tue May 21, 2013 2:50 pm

Quoting BW424 (Reply 2):
The new individuals on the board possess quite impressive resumes,commanding influential roles in major multi-billion coporations like Ernst and Young, RBC and the IMF prior to their current public sector positions.

What they need is an person with airline experience on the board.

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Is part of the reason for Caribbean Airlines to keep Mr. Lalor also to attempt to correct its image in Jamaica seeing how nobody wants Caribbean Airlines there (at least as per the Jamaican thread)?

I think what you have in Jamaica is a very vocal meager minority who don't want CAL there.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Tue May 21, 2013 5:01 pm

Quoting BW424 (Reply 5):
Well, I wouldn't say keeping Mr Lalor on board was a diplomatic move to try and salvage CAL's image in Jamaica. He really has nothing to do with the mess caused by the former board. He was certainly the most credible on the former board. Even if he was not of such good calibre, the GORTT cannot remove him as Jamaica has a 16% share in the carrier and the agreement calls for one Jamaican representative.

Thanks, I understand it now.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 7):
Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Is part of the reason for Caribbean Airlines to keep Mr. Lalor also to attempt to correct its image in Jamaica seeing how nobody wants Caribbean Airlines there (at least as per the Jamaican thread)?


I think what you have in Jamaica is a very vocal meager minority who don't want CAL there.

Caribbean Airlines has cut the operations at its KIN base by 50% with more staff cuts apparently. Is this solely caused by the competition to/from KIN?

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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Tue May 21, 2013 5:05 pm

Also, the first Dutch Antilles Express Fokker 100 in the airline's new livery has arrived in Curacao. See my photo in below link:



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They performed a very nice and low fly by!!!


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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Wed May 22, 2013 12:19 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 6):
Didn't know TAB was a known destination for the Nordic leisure market.

TAB is quite popular among Norwegians actually. There are a surprising number of Norwegians who own properties (prior to restrictions on foreign ownership).

Additionally, the market is known as BWIA used to fly from POS (via BGI I believe) to ARN back in the days of the fleet of L10-11Tri-Star 500s.

Tobago may not be at the top of Scandanavians' lists, but it is certainly a known quantity.

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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Wed May 22, 2013 12:47 am

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 10):
Additionally, the market is known as BWIA used to fly from POS (via BGI I believe) to ARN back in the days of the fleet of L10-11Tri-Star 500s.

That I knew, a Swedish couple friend of mine spent their honeymoon on Barbados. They flew BWIA.

Not sure if this day and age, tag-ons to CPH (for Nordic market), FRA (or alternate airport for German market) or MXP (or alternate for Italian market) from LGW would mean improved loads for BW POS-LON operations, specially if flights then would have to be routed via BGI (or UVF/GND/SXM even TAB).
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Wed May 22, 2013 1:06 pm

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 10):
Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 6):
Didn't know TAB was a known destination for the Nordic leisure market.

TAB is quite popular among Norwegians actually. There are a surprising number of Norwegians who own properties (prior to restrictions on foreign ownership).

Additionally, the market is known as BWIA used to fly from POS (via BGI I believe) to ARN back in the days of the fleet of L10-11Tri-Star 500s.

Tobago may not be at the top of Scandanavians' lists, but it is certainly a known quantity.

AA1818

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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Wed May 22, 2013 3:49 pm

Does anybody know if Interjet (4O) is starting MEX-SJU in June? That would be a great Caribbean addition. I always thought SDQ should also be linked to MEX
 
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Wed May 22, 2013 5:04 pm

Quoting BW424 (Reply 2):

Little bit confused by something. If all BW had to do with the AJ brand was to continue what was already in place then why was JM closed down due to its massive losses. Clearly JMs routes were unprofitable, and by the time of its closure it had pretty much been cut to its present core routes, plus PHL and BWI.

There is an inherent contradition between the LOK Jack team's strategy of winnowing down two brands to one brand, ad Lalor's accusation that an attempt was made to put too much of a Trini stamp.

Confused! I think that every one is running for cover and passing blame. The fact remains that if KIN lost US$ 38MM. Even though it is not fully to blame for the current financial mess (cargo and credit card fraud is quite disturbing) it definitely played a role.

Jamaicans want what is essentially a Jamaican airline. Given the tremendous animosity that has developed towards BWs Trinidadian ownership I will be curious to see how this will be acheived, short of Fly Jamaica meeting an early death (which is not unlikely given the tragic history of privately owned airlines in the Caribbean).

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):

If BW wants to prove to Jamaicans that it is a REGIONAL carrier and not just a TRini9 carrier they will need to rehire some of the Jamaicans who they dismissed, ensure that the contracts held by their Jcan employees mirror those of their Trini employeers.

I live in NYC with its large Jcan community. I can tell you this. NOT ONE JAMAICAN has anything nice to say about BW. And a frequent complaint is how Jamaican employees seem to bear the brunt of lay offs when they occur. And these comments come not only from those who disliked BW from the beginning. But also from those who understood that JM had to go and that BW (KIN) was the best that was available, and were willing to give them a chance.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 7):

If it was only a vocal minority BW would have the same market share that JM had. It is now falling behind AA, even on the KIN market. Jamaicans are fleeing BW and that is a fact. The question will be what will it take to bring them back, aside from FlyJam collapsing, which would put aside notions that Jca can support its own airline. Whle all of this is happening B6 and WS have become firmly established in the VFR market.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 11):

Those continental European routes were huge money losers for BWIA, which is why there were dropped.

It is a fact of life that CAL has no idea how to market to leisure travelers in a manner which will give them decent yield. I am not even sure whether they should try this when we see what happened to JM, which was very successful in the lesiure market, but at the cost of running up huge losses.
 
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Wed May 22, 2013 7:11 pm

Quoting guyanam (Reply 14):
It is a fact of life that CAL has no idea how to market to leisure travelers in a manner which will give them decent yield. I am not even sure whether they should try this when we see what happened to JM, which was very successful in the lesiure market, but at the cost of running up huge losses.

The answer might be a high-density configuration wide-body aircraft flying (charter) only on contract routes by wholesalers.
And IMHO, it's not something BW should try right now.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Fri May 24, 2013 4:55 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 9):

Dae and Insel are reaaalllly expanding, that's impressive!
 
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Fri May 24, 2013 6:49 pm

Here's the First Liat ATR 72-600!!!!


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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Fri May 24, 2013 6:55 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 17):
Here's the First Liat ATR 72-600!!!!

Great!!! I do find the fuselage to be too white!!! They could have put LIAT billboard titles on the fuselage. The tail logo has changed but just slightly.


Hope to see it in CUR soon!!! Let me know when the first flight to CUR will be.

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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Fri May 24, 2013 8:24 pm

Quoting wingedtaurus (Reply 13):
Does anybody know if Interjet (4O) is starting MEX-SJU in June? That would be a great Caribbean addition. I always thought SDQ should also be linked to MEX

ASUR airports says they are.

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 16):
Dae and Insel are reaaalllly expanding, that's impressive!

I know. I wonder where all these pax are coming from to fill these planes. ITs not like DAE and Insel are household names in the tourism markets
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Fri May 24, 2013 10:00 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 17):
Here's the First Liat ATR 72-600!!!!

Looks great!

Quoting A388 (Reply 18):
The tail logo has changed but just slightly.

...bringing it more in line with Caribbean Airlines font!      

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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Fri May 24, 2013 11:43 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 19):

And indeed DAE has gotten quite a reputation on skytrax being unreliable. Precisely because they are not known will be why tourists will seek these sources for info.

It appears as if DAE has a personal vendetta to drive Insel out of business.
 
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sat May 25, 2013 12:54 pm

As of Dec 21. and now bookable....

LAXBZE 0020 0700 // BZELAX 1030 1350 (737-800)

Delta expanding in Belize.

Anybody else in the Caribbean got non-stops from LAX?
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sat May 25, 2013 2:01 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 22):
Anybody else in the Caribbean got non-stops from LAX?

Does DL has LAX-MBJ on its radar?
Due to distance and flight duration, probably for LAX-PUJ/SXM/AUA/CUR leisure traffic DL non-stop flights may not be sustainable..
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sat May 25, 2013 2:08 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 23):
Does DL has LAX-MBJ on its radar?
Due to distance and flight duration, probably for LAX-PUJ/SXM/AUA/CUR leisure traffic DL non-stop flights may not be sustainable..

I guess for the most part it most have some year round aspect to the flight and have some VFR components. Full leisure markets don't work so well.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sat May 25, 2013 11:09 pm

The question is how long LAX-BZE will last.

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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sun May 26, 2013 1:28 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 25):
The question is how long LAX-BZE will last.

The homework has been done and for the last two years every detail has been looked at.....and ground teams are working both ends this time. I will be very surprised if it does not do well right out of the gate.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sun May 26, 2013 5:31 am

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 17):
Here's the First Liat ATR 72-600!!!!

Congrats to LI! Looking forward to seeing the 42 version in the livery. Any idea what the initial routes will be for this first a/c? Probably high density routes like POS-BGI, GEO-BGI, POS-GND?

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 20):
bringing it more in line with Caribbean Airlines font!  

Hmmm...interesting.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 22):
As of Dec 21. and now bookable....

LAXBZE 0020 0700 // BZELAX 1030 1350 (737-800)

Delta expanding in Belize.

Congrats to BZE and DL! I'm guessing BZE is the only CARICOM nation with service out of LAX at present.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sun May 26, 2013 6:27 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 22):
Anybody else in the Caribbean got non-stops from LAX?

I remember AA had LAX-SJU right?
 
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sun May 26, 2013 9:25 pm

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 28):
I remember AA had LAX-SJU right?

Yes, think is was cancelled during the first wave of AA SJU cancellations.

Quoting BW424 (Reply 27):
Congrats to BZE and DL! I'm guessing BZE is the only CARICOM nation with service out of LAX at present.

Yes, and at US$1500 for a R/T 4.5 hour flight....the yields should be right up there and keep the "BZE has great yields" story intact.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Mon May 27, 2013 6:31 am

Right, here a few pics of my last flight, I'm right now in SJU, quite impressed with the country, I know, I know they are USA, but expected more poverty or something like that, SJU is fun!

Spirit airlines, ultra low fare carrier, you pay for nearly everything, but still not worse than FR

now a few caribbean countries left to my list, unfortunately won't be able to visit all of them on the follwing 2 years but who knows  
 
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Mon May 27, 2013 1:02 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 26):
Quoting A388 (Reply 25):
The question is how long LAX-BZE will last.


The homework has been done and for the last two years every detail has been looked at.....and ground teams are working both ends this time. I will be very surprised if it does not do well right out of the gate.

A lot of routes had there homework done in detail and eventually dropped so I'll wait for a year or two before saying the route will do fine. BZE can be an alternative to Mexico as tourist destination for the Western Coast so let's see. Let's see if people will indeed flock to BZE from LAX.

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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Mon May 27, 2013 1:14 pm

Quoting BW424 (Reply 27):
Congrats to LI! Looking forward to seeing the 42 version in the livery. Any idea what the initial routes will be for this first a/c? Probably high density routes like POS-BGI, GEO-BGI, POS-GND?

No word yet, but I don't expect it to be placed on those routes yet until more aircraft arrives. First aircraft should be in ANU around May 31. Also, look out for operations to begin at Ogle possibly in July.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Mon May 27, 2013 1:21 pm

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 32):
First aircraft should be in ANU around May 31.

Seriously?!?! That means i'll probaly get to see it on my way back to MNI   Which is this Saturday btw. Will be something slightly different to what I usually write about. Should be interesting!
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Mon May 27, 2013 1:24 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 31):
BZE can be an alternative to Mexico as tourist destination for the Western Coast so let's see.

it has been for some time. the natural market to bze is west Coast. CA is the number one in arrivals to BZE.

Quoting A388 (Reply 31):
Let's see if people will indeed flock to BZE from LAX.

. THey already are. Last year SoCal already produced 39,000 + to BZE
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Mon May 27, 2013 2:17 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 34):
Quoting A388 (Reply 31):
BZE can be an alternative to Mexico as tourist destination for the Western Coast so let's see.

it has been for some time. the natural market to bze is west Coast. CA is the number one in arrivals to BZE.

Quoting A388 (Reply 31):
Let's see if people will indeed flock to BZE from LAX.

. THey already are. Last year SoCal already produced 39,000 + to BZE

All great news, good luck to both BZE and DL.


Regarding the LI ATR72, I hope to see them in CUR too, but I think an ATR42 will be better suited. I thought that LI would receive the ATR42 before the ATR72? Also how will the maintenance be done? Will they do it jointly or in co-operation with Caribbean Airlines? It does make sense in my opinion (at least from an outsider's point of view).

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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Mon May 27, 2013 6:27 pm

Quoting BW424 (Reply 27):

Definitely not POS GND as they cut that route down to once pay day. Suspect some route through DOM as they seem much favored since they invested, or promised to invest in LI. Maybe the BGI DOM ANU SJU route. Or maybe GEO BGI continuing on to ANU, as that seems to be oversold since they slashed from 2x to 1X per day.

Quoting A388 (Reply 31):

BZE also has good VFR between LAX and BZE.
 
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Thu May 30, 2013 4:08 am

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 33):
Seriously?!?! That means i'll probaly get to see it on my way back to MNI Which is this Saturday btw. Will be something slightly different to what I usually write about. Should be interesting!

I wouldn't get too excited yet as those dates are always subject to change.

Quoting A388 (Reply 35):
Regarding the LI ATR72, I hope to see them in CUR too, but I think an ATR42 will be better suited. I thought that LI would receive the ATR42 before the ATR72? Also how will the maintenance be done? Will they do it jointly or in co-operation with Caribbean Airlines? It does make sense in my opinion (at least from an outsider's point of view).

The 42's seem to be on hold at the moment, so it'll be all 72's for the time being. Not sure how maintenance will be done, but I wouldn't be surprised if some deal is struck with CAL.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 36):
Definitely not POS GND as they cut that route down to once pay day. Suspect some route through DOM as they seem much favored since they invested, or promised to invest in LI.

Well they did put $8 mil into LI recently so I wouldnt be surprised if thats the case. DOM flights do well enough for LI so i don't think the 72's will be flying empty in and/or out.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Thu May 30, 2013 5:46 am

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 37):
I wouldn't get too excited yet as those dates are always subject to change.

I know, but im still hopeful.   Because that would mean spotting two new planes in two days 
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:45 am

Cayman Airways returns to PTY In Spanish from www.prensa.com
Cayman Airways will fly again to PTY and got a permanent operation permit from Panama Civil Aviation Authority.
I can only make from this move that the Cayman Government is still trying to show CM GCM is a potential destination and get it to fly to GCM.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:50 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 39):
I can only make from this move that the Cayman Government is still trying to show CM GCM is a potential destination and get it to fly to GCM.

i second that motion.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:45 am

My latest trip report is finally up, no LI ATR though...:

Same Route Different Airlines: VS, 5M And A BY 787 (by 817Dreamliiner Jun 6 2013 in Trip Reports)
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:17 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 35):
Regarding the LI ATR72, I hope to see them in CUR too, but I think an ATR42 will be better suited. I thought that LI would receive the ATR42 before the ATR72? Also how will the maintenance be done? Will they do it jointly or in co-operation with Caribbean Airlines? It does make sense in my opinion (at least from an outsider's point of view).

The 72's will be in CUR sooner than you think.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 41):
My latest trip report is finally up, no LI ATR though...:

Nice TR. You'll definitely see them on your way back up.


In other LI news, flights at Ogle starts June 21.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:53 pm

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 42):

Guyanese will definitely appreciate the OGL LI flight. Indeed they might need to add service as many use them to connect to majors in BGI, instead of trekking to GEO. Especially now that flights to JFK are impossible to get.

I assume that LI will do its ANU SLU POS CUR and ANU SDQ with the 72s then. The long routes.
 
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:44 pm

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 42):
Nice TR. You'll definitely see them on your way back up.

Thanks! Looking forward to seeing them.
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:37 pm

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 42):
The 72's will be in CUR sooner than you think.

That will be great. Let me know when the first LIAT ATR flight will be to CUR.

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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:01 pm

Hey guys, I've being far from this forum due to my backpacking tour for the past 5 months to celebrate the end of my management studies!

it was a wonderful adventure!

16 countries visited, dozens of cities etc....

First time flying: Tropic Air, Cayman airways, Jetblue, United, Alaska, Southwest, Spirit, Interjet, Volaris, Air Canada, Westjet

First time: having medical diversion (ANC), returning to gate due lightening (ORD), and aborted take off due to computer blackout (STT)

a few pics! from the last two islands visited in the caribbean

I still have to visit: Bahamas, Haiti, Turks and caicos, Saba, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Grenada and French Guyana, then my caribbean, CARICOM, West indies, OECS list of nations will be complete!



 
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:34 pm

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 46):
First time flying: Tropic Air, Cayman airways, Jetblue, United, Alaska, Southwest, Spirit, Interjet, Volaris, Air Canada, Westjet

The guy behind the Surinam Airways counter looks like he is about to rip off your head
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:29 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 47):

hahahahahah on certain airports they do not want us to take pics! but so far was only frowned upon in Mexico!
 
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RE: Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105

Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:12 pm

FYI: This December for the first time ever, UA is offering two flights a day from IAH to POS on certian days

UA1247 11:55PM IAH 7:25AM POS
UA 1457 1:15PM IAH 8:40PM POS

UA must be making a killing. Also crazy first class was sold out on both flights!
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