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The Longest, Commerical, Revenue Flight Ever....?

Tue May 21, 2013 2:50 am

Hi everyone, today out of curiousity I went on flightaware and looked up SQ 22 (SIN-EWR), and I noticed that the flight a few days ago was a whopping 23 hours and 24 minutes! This got me thinking, what was the longest, revenue, commerical flight ever? I mean specific dates, such as May 12th, 2013, SQ 22, 23:24

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Tue May 21, 2013 5:42 am

During WW2 Qantas flew Catalina's nonstop between Perth and Koggala, Ceylon according to wiki numbers the ~3050 nn trip took around 30 hours all in radio silence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Double_Sunrise
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Tue May 21, 2013 7:19 am

23 hours of this:



Count me in! :P

Quoting Vhqpa (Reply 1):

During WW2 Qantas flew Catalina's nonstop between Perth and Koggala, Ceylon according to wiki numbers the ~3050 nn trip took around 30 hours all in radio silence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dou...nrise

Interesting.. but wasn't this with stops in between?
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 7:28 am

Quoting infinit (Reply 2):

Interesting.. but wasn't this with stops in between?

I believe it's nonstop, as the trip is all over water, and the land between Ceylon and Perth are nearly all enemy terrritory
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 7:31 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_...urance_record#Airline.2C_Scheduled

Quoting infinit (Reply 2):
Interesting.. but wasn't this with stops in between?

He didn't ask about non-stop flights.   

The Catalina flights by Qantas were non-stop:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Double_Sunrise


Weren't there scheduled round-the-world trips by Pan Am, from 1947 to 1976?


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Tue May 21, 2013 8:35 am

Hi

23 hours is a long time for a non stop commercial jet service.

However back in 1957 TWA were flying non stop from Los Angeles to London & San Francisco to Paris using L1649As with a flight time of around 24 hrs.

The Qantas Indian ocean service at 30 hrs was longer however was it possible for the public to purchase tickets on it or was it just for government use as part of the war effort?

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Tue May 21, 2013 9:08 am

From the history books:

Oct 1, 1924:
KLM initiated its first intercontinental flight, from Amsterdam to Batavia (today's Jakarta) in a Fokker F-VII. This flight took nearly two months, with a three week hold up in Bulgaria for repairs after a forced landing.

June 1927:
An American citizen Mr. Van Lear Black chartered a single-engined KLM Fokker VIIa and flew in 13 days from Amsterdam to Batavia. He also made a return flight and the whole trip took 183 flight hours.

12 Sep, 1929
KLM started regular, scheduled bi-weekly service between Amsterdam - Batavia. Until the outbreak of the Second World War, this was the world's longest-distance scheduled service. The trip took just 12 days and 89 flight hours. A return trip took 4 weeks. The flight operated weekly from 1931.

Dec 1933:
KLM flew Christmas and New Year's cards from Amsterdam to Batavia in a record time of just over four days in a Fokker F-XVIII Pelikaan. The mail arrived in time for Christmas.
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 12:23 pm

People these days are so amazed at a 24 hour flight. It was common for the Pan Am 377s to take that long from HNL to OAK eastbound. But the distance is truly amazing these days, almost halfway around the earth with passengers. I believe we have just about reached the maximum range possible.
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Tue May 21, 2013 12:41 pm

Quoting richcandy (Reply 5):
The Qantas Indian ocean service at 30 hrs was longer however was it possible for the public to purchase tickets on it or was it just for government use as part of the war effort?

From what I've read there were 3 seats available on each flight. Probably because of weight restrictions! 30 hours in a Cat is a looooong time.

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Tue May 21, 2013 12:42 pm

Depends on the definition of 'longest', doesn't it? Are we talking nautical miles or time, specifically. Distance wise, I am inclined to believe the SQ service from SIN to EWR takes the price, less certain which one the longest is in hours and minutes. Anyway, SAS used to operate a DC-7C from Copenhagen to Tokyo with a stop in Anchorage back in the late 1940s. Total time around 32 hours.
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Tue May 21, 2013 12:44 pm

And I was thinking that if I flew DL837 it would be a long flight...I can't imagine my-self flying 23-24 hours in a airplane even if I would be in F.
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Tue May 21, 2013 12:50 pm

I am having a hard time believing this flight from 5/12 was really 23+ hours. I wonder if it included an unplanned stop or several hours of holding on the apron at SIN...Normal flying time is 18-20 hours eastbound, so almost 24 hours doesn't make sense...

I flew the LAX-BKK-LAX flight that TG ran for years, and the westbound segment was almost 19 hours. In coach with two young children I might add. Really a pretty good product TG had on that route with 36" pitch in Y on that A345.
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 1:28 pm

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 9):
Anyway, SAS used to operate a DC-7C from Copenhagen to Tokyo with a stop in Anchorage back in the late 1940s. Total time around 32 hours.

Can't be right as the DC-7C wasn't put into service until 1956.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-7
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Tue May 21, 2013 1:35 pm

Quoting iMissPiedmont (Reply 7):
It was common for the Pan Am 377s to take that long from HNL to OAK eastbound.

2409 miles from HNL to OAK; the plane flew only 100 mph?
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 2:24 pm

Well, I think there are still potential point to point routes that are not covered by today's range options, and even more that would be viable if the plane had an even better range that wouldn't need to be used i.e. be even more economical.

I'm pretty sure QF will fly nonstop from SYD to places like LON and NYC when that becomes sustainable in all senses. Maybe even NZ will have a go at it. I do also see this to be limited to the upper segments of travel. It will always be cheaper to ferry cattle via DXB. I also imagine a few of those routes will be bound from points in Asia (e.g. PEK) to points in Latin America (e.g. GRU).
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Tue May 21, 2013 2:41 pm

Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
Hi everyone, today out of curiousity I went on flightaware and looked up SQ 22 (SIN-EWR), and I noticed that the flight a few days ago was a whopping 23 hours and 24 minutes! This got me thinking, what was the longest, revenue, commerical flight ever? I mean specific dates, such as May 12th, 2013, SQ 22, 23:24

This doesn't make sense to me. Are you sure the aircraft wasn't late departing or something? I can't believe even a 345 could fly that long with any kind of passenger load on it.
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 2:45 pm

Regarding replies 9 and 12 on SK's "Polar Flights" (did not really fly over the North Pole, but does sound cool), the carrier did pioneer flights from Europe to California and Japan via the Great Circle Route.

Flights to from CPH to LAX, via SFJ and YWG, started in 1954, using DC-6Bs. CPH-ANC-HND commenced in 1957, with DC-7s. The latter involve more route research and planning since it was so far off the "beaten path". SAS worked with Wien Alaska to develop the service.

As for the OP's point, I think the best answer was in reply 5, with TWA's LAX/SFO-ORY flights with L-1649s. I they were the longest (in time) scheduled commericial flights.
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 2:51 pm

Quoting 802flyguy (Reply 16):
As for the OP's point, I think the best answer was in reply 5, with TWA's LAX/SFO-ORY flights with L-1649s. I they were the longest (in time) scheduled commericial flights.

Seems to be the case, since the OP is talking in terms of time and referencing a non-stop flight. The idea of riding a piston airliner for 24 hours is kind of mind-boggling, though.
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 2:54 pm

At the time the longest (distance) commercial flight was when BA 772 G-YMMG carried Prime Minister Blair, his wife and approximately 60 other passengers departing on 24 March 2006 after an EU summit to the closing ceremony of the Commonwealth Games. This flight routed BRU to MEL non-stop (8,953 miles, sector time 18 hrs 55 mins).

After the closing ceremony the aircraft carried the Blairs on an official visits to New Zealand and then on another official visit to Indonesia. So the long haul homeward leg from CGK to LHR was significantly shorter than the BRU-MEL outward bound flight.

In terms of the elapsed time the Blairs had the benefit of the use of BA's Royal Suite (that includes two full-size single beds) that had been fitted in the F Class cabin of 'MG to carry Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip to and from the opening ceremony of the Melbourne Games. However their outward bound flight routed LHR-SIN-CBR while their return flight routed MEL-SIN-LHR.
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 3:11 pm

Wasn't there a QF744 that did LHR-SIN many years ago nonostop and the plane was towed to the runway before start up?
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Tue May 21, 2013 3:25 pm

Quoting warren747sp (Reply 19):
Wasn't there a QF744 that did LHR-SIN many years ago nonostop

Well until quite recently they flew it every day with a full load, as does BA and SQ!

But I assume you mean LHR-SYD? Yes one QF B744 flew non-revenue, empty, non-stop LHR-SYD. It was not a commercial flight. The fuel was specially refined to give a high density.
 
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Quoting AAexecplat (Reply 11):
I flew the LAX-BKK-LAX flight that TG ran for years, and the westbound segment was almost 19 hours. In coach with two young children I might add. Really a pretty good product TG had on that route with 36" pitch in Y on that A345.

I did that flight too in 2008, in Y. Eighteen and a half hours. Quite comfortable; with the IFE and almost constant service by the ever-smiling FAs, it was certainly more than bearable though I did not sleep much. Arrived in Bangkok just as dawn was breaking; right on the dot of my birthday and birthhour. Got a TG pajamas from F as an impromptu birthday present 
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Tue May 21, 2013 3:33 pm

Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
This got me thinking, what was the longest, revenue, commerical flight ever? I mean specific dates, such as May 12th, 2013, SQ 22, 23:24

Bad data on FlightAware. They have the departure as 5:29a Singapore time but it was actually 10:50a off the gate, 11:09a in the air. Total block time for SQ22 on 5/12 was 18h 16m.
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 3:45 pm

Quoting N821NW (Reply 10):
can't imagine my-self flying 23-24 hours in a airplane even if I would be in F.

I've routinely flown 22's...nothing big...
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 3:54 pm

Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
a few days ago was a whopping 23 hours and 24 minutes!

It is scheduled to be about 19 hours, so they must have been hitting some winds. I will say though how much reserve fuel does this bird carry. I would think if SQ21 is hitting some strong winds they would have to make a tech stop.


I think that flight you circumnavigate the globe if you make the round trip. There was a trip report on flyertalk where a few took this flight and back on its innaugural trip with immediate turn around. While if I had the means to do it I would, but still close to 40 hours in a plane would start to get a bit much even if it is SQ J.

Too bad this flight is getting cancelled.
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 4:01 pm

Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
Hi everyone, today out of curiousity I went on flightaware and looked up SQ 22 (SIN-EWR), and I noticed that the flight a few days ago was a whopping 23 hours and 24 minutes!

Looking through the list, all the longer flights are with a departure time several hours before the scheduled departure time of around 11am local. I'd guess that something got screwed up in the time zone calculations.

Going through the flight history on flightradar24, on the 12th May, the flight was airborne at around 0310UTC which puts it at 1210pm local, if my maths and summer times add up properly.
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Tue May 21, 2013 5:05 pm

Quoting VV701 (Reply 18):
At the time the longest (distance) commercial flight was when BA 772 G-YMMG carried Prime Minister Blair, his wife and approximately 60 other passengers departing on 24 March 2006 after an EU summit to the closing ceremony of the Commonwealth Games. This flight routed BRU to MEL non-stop (8,953 miles, sector time 18 hrs 55 mins).

That would not have been a Commercial Revenue Flight. I remember there being a flight from JFK-Tokyo, I always wanted to fly that one as it was on a 747SP with PA. I have learned my lesson though and would never like to be in an aircraft that long no matter what class it was in.

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I believe I've read somewhere that our member Mariner has done the double sunrise, when he was very little…
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Tue May 21, 2013 5:30 pm

Quoting ORDJOE (Reply 24):
It is scheduled to be about 19 hours, so they must have been hitting some winds. I will say though how much reserve fuel does this bird carry. I would think if SQ21 is hitting some strong winds they would have to make a tech stop.
SIN-EWR is flown eastbound to take advantage of prevailing winds. EWR-SIN is also sometimes flown eastbound when winds are favorable as it offsets the extra distance versus flying via the polar Great Circle route per Viscount24 in SQ EWR-SIN (by SQ25J Jun 26 2008 in Aviation Polls).

As N770WD noted in Reply 22, FlightAware has the wrong departure time which artificially lengthened the block time. The actual flown block time was 18h 16m.

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Tue May 21, 2013 5:33 pm

Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
today out of curiousity I went on flightaware and looked up SQ 22 (SIN-EWR), and I noticed that the flight a few days ago was a whopping 23 hours and 24 minutes!

What's even more amazing is that it still takes so long to fly this distance, as we've more or less had this capability for 40 years now.
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 5:36 pm

Quoting brilondon (Reply 26):
I remember there being a flight from JFK-Tokyo

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Tue May 21, 2013 5:42 pm

Quoting Aircellist (Reply 27):
I believe I've read somewhere that our member Mariner has done the double sunrise, when he was very little…

Did that a few years ago too, HKG to LHR the wrong way (22h 42m) 772LR, not revenue however. Had enough fuel left we could have gone into holding and made it 24hr+ (or continued on to TOU).
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 6:10 pm

Quoting ORDJOE (Reply 24):
I think that flight you circumnavigate the globe if you make the round trip.

Depends on how lucky you get:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 28):
EWR-SIN is also sometimes flown eastbound when winds are favorable as it offsets the extra distance versus flying via the polar Great Circle route

Today it is currently flying via a NAT flight plan:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...1/history/20130521/0300Z/KEWR/WSSS
Yesterday it went polar:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...1/history/20130520/0300Z/KEWR/WSSS
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 6:13 pm

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 31):
Did that a few years ago too, HKG to LHR the wrong way (22h 42m) 772LR, not revenue however. Had enough fuel left we could have gone into holding and made it 24hr+ (or continued on to TOU).

Isn't that the world's record flight that Suzanna flew? I forget the details, but a 777-200LR flew the longest ever flight with a commercial airplane, in distance. It's was non-revenue, of course.
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 6:29 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 33):
Isn't that the world's record flight that Suzanna flew? I forget the details, but a 777-200LR flew the longest ever flight with a commercial airplane, in distance. It's was non-revenue, of course

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Tue May 21, 2013 6:38 pm

Quoting twincessna340a (Reply 32):
Quoting ORDJOE (Reply 24):
I think that flight you circumnavigate the globe if you make the round trip.

Depends on how lucky you get:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 28):
EWR-SIN is also sometimes flown eastbound when winds are favorable as it offsets the extra distance versus flying via the polar Great Circle route

Today it is currently flying via a NAT flight plan:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...1/history/20130521/0300Z/KEWR/WSSS
Yesterday it went polar:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S.../WSSS

What I can't get over about this. is look at yesterdays polar. It was filed for only FL270. But todays is FL410. FL270 not that high for a long haul.
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Tue May 21, 2013 6:47 pm

Whenever I sit in a Swiss 343 tourist class, comfortably - yes, indeed - on SFO-ZRH during the night, I am frequently looking where we are: Hudson Bay, oh no, still there - sleep, seemingly 1h, in fact 5 min - check again: Hudson Bay, oh no, still there.....

Or on an SK 343 in Eco Extra ORD-CPH....

Not nice.

But I - born in 1960 - always then must think about the reports I heard - face to face in Stockholm - from refugees fleeing East Prussia in 1945. No 12h15min Y class with a dinner including wine, coffee and chocolate. No, rather weeks of a seemingly never ending night mare.

Not that I would like to deny the reason or responsibility for all that in 1945. But I do imagine.

And there are those who do this today, although not from Eastern Prussia to Northern Germany and not in the Western World, it seems. Nothing, we personally could do here and now about the catastrophes in the 3rd world, most probably.

But that Y-class seat SFO-ZRH in a Swiss airplane is an extreme privilege, indeed, which many of those fleeing from home today would experience as heaven.

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Tue May 21, 2013 7:00 pm

Quoting beertrucker (Reply 35):
What I can't get over about this. is look at yesterdays polar. It was filed for only FL270. But todays is FL410. FL270 not that high for a long haul.

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Tue May 21, 2013 7:07 pm

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 34):
Yep, that was Susan's baby.

Suzanna, not Susan.  
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 7:09 pm

Quoting brilondon (Reply 26):
That would not have been a Commercial Revenue Flight.

It was flown by a fully commercial independent airline, British Airways.

The flight was chartered by the British government at full commercial rates. The British government defrayed some of the cost by offering seats for sale to accredited members of the media who wished to travel with the Blair party.

So it was very clearly a commercial flight that generated revenue for the operator.

However it was a charter flight and not a scheduled flight. The BRU-MEL leg operated as BA9118C.

So it very clearly was a fully commercial revenue flight. If it had not been then BA shareholders (including myself) would have had a lot to say about it
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 9:45 pm

I'm reminded of Canadian Pacific's flights 1 and 2 >> Hong Kong – Tokyo – Vancouver – Edmonton – Winnipeg – Toronto – Montreal.

Done with DC-6Bs, The crews must have seen their families as little as seafaring men.

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Tue May 21, 2013 10:07 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 40):
Canadian Pacific's flights 1 and 2 >> Hong Kong – Tokyo – Vancouver – Edmonton – Winnipeg – Toronto – Montreal.

Anyone find that in a timetable?
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 10:16 pm

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 4):
Weren't there scheduled round-the-world trips by Pan Am, from 1947 to 1976?

I'm assuming the original question was intended to refer to nonstop flights.

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 40):
I'm reminded of Canadian Pacific's flights 1 and 2 >> Hong Kong – Tokyo – Vancouver – Edmonton – Winnipeg – Toronto – Montreal.

Done with DC-6Bs, The crews must have seen their families as little as seafaring men.

Not quite. The domestic sectors of CP and 2 never used the DC-6B, except for isolated substitutions. Service began with the Bristol Britannia in 1958 and was replaced by the DC-8-43 in 1961. And CP1 and 2 never included a stop at Edmonton. Domestic route was YVR-YWG-YYZ-YUL.

CP finally got permission to add a 2nd daily transcontinental flight in each direction around 1967. Those flights (also DC-8) were CP3 and 4 and used the same routing as CP 1 and 2 with an additional stop at YYC 4 days a week and YEG 3 days a week.
 
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Tue May 21, 2013 10:21 pm

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 31):
Did that a few years ago too, HKG to LHR the wrong way (22h 42m) 772LR, not revenue however. Had enough fuel left we could have gone into holding and made it 24hr+ (or continued on to TOU).

There's a trip report here:
Hong Kong To London The Long Way (by Jetlife2 May 23 2007 in Trip Reports)

And a video link here:
Video: Boeing 777-200LR's 2005 Record-Breaking Flight! (by propilot83 Nov 24 2010 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=4993098&searchid=4994207&s=777-200Lr+record+flight#ID4994207
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Tue May 21, 2013 10:24 pm

Quoting timz (Reply 41):
Anyone find that in a timetable?
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/cp59/cp59-3.jpg

In 1959 flight 2 was flown with a Britannia.

A couple of years earlier flight 402/404 was HKG-Tokyo-Vancouver-Mexico City-Lima-Buenos Aires in a DC6

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/cp/cp57-2.jpg

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RE: The Longest, Commerical, Revenue Flight Ever....?

Tue May 21, 2013 10:30 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 40):
I'm reminded of Canadian Pacific's flights 1 and 2 >> Hong Kong – Tokyo – Vancouver – Edmonton – Winnipeg – Toronto – Montreal. Done with DC-6Bs,
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 42):
Not quite. The domestic sectors of CP and 2 never used the DC-6B, except for isolated substitutions. Service began with the Bristol Britannia in 1958 and was replaced by the DC-8-43 in 1961. And CP1 and 2 never included a stop at Edmonton. Domestic route was YVR-YWG-YYZ-YUL.

Dang it.

Is Wikipedia wrong yet again?

"The development of the great circle or polar route to the Far East from CP Air's Vancouver base would become one of the cornerstones of the airline. Grant McConachie managed to secure flights to Amsterdam, Australia, Hong Kong, and Shanghai,[4] which helped the airline's revenue grow from $3 million in 1942 to $61 million by 1964. Flights to Sydney and to Hong Kong via Tokyo started in 1949, with Canadairs; DC-4s took over in 1952 and DC-6Bs in 1953. Flights to Lima started in 1953 (extended to Buenos Aires in 1956) and to Amsterdam in 1955. In August 1956 three DC-6Bs a week left Vancouver for Amsterdam, two for Tokyo and Hong Kong, one Auckland, one Sydney, and one Buenos Aires.

Several of the key routes in the early days were as follows:
Flights 1 & 2, flying Hong Kong – Tokyo – Vancouver – Edmonton – Winnipeg – Toronto – Montreal."
 
Viscount724
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RE: The Longest, Commerical, Revenue Flight Ever....?

Tue May 21, 2013 10:31 pm

Quoting timz (Reply 41):
Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 40):
Canadian Pacific's flights 1 and 2 >> Hong Kong – Tokyo – Vancouver – Edmonton – Winnipeg – Toronto – Montreal.

Anyone find that in a timetable?

One example here.
http://cpair.blogspot.ch/2004/03/can...acific-airlines-timetable-jul.html

A much longer CP flight with the same flight number was a year or two earlier when CP401/402/403/404 operated HKG-HND-YVR-MEX-LIM-SCL-EZE with DC-6B.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NAVmt72iYS...E/MrbsqvXYY9g/s1600-h/scan0003.jpg

Also same flight numbers in that timetable AMS-SYD/AKL via YEG-YVR-HNL-NAN.
 
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RE: The Longest, Commerical, Revenue Flight Ever....?

Tue May 21, 2013 10:34 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 45):
Is Wikipedia wrong yet again?

It looks basically correct, but I don't think the reference to CP 1 and 2 is linked to use of the DC-6B, at least I don't read it that way. Hong Kong and Tokyo were sometimes linked to the domestic route and sometimes to Mexico and South America.
 
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RE: The Longest, Commerical, Revenue Flight Ever....?

Tue May 21, 2013 10:35 pm

Just to be a smarty you could include Charles Simonyi's flight(s) to the ISS. He stayed 15 days during one and I'm sure that's the record for longest distance traveled by a paying citizen for a trip.
 
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RE: The Longest, Commerical, Revenue Flight Ever....?

Tue May 21, 2013 10:55 pm

Quoting 802flyguy (Reply 16):
Regarding replies 9 and 12 on SK's "Polar Flights" (did not really fly over the North Pole, but does sound cool), the carrier did pioneer flights from Europe to California and Japan via the Great Circle Route.

SK's flights CPH-ANC-HND (and other European carriers that operated via ANC) came much closer to the North Pole than flights to the west coast of North America. The "Polar" route via ANC was the shortest route between Europe and Japan until the Trans-Siberian route was opened to European carriers.

Line on the left is great circle CPH-ANC. Line on the right passes over the North Pole.