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FX B763F's On Order - New Or Converted Pax Frames?

Sun May 26, 2013 12:27 am

I'm reading the June 2013 issue of Airways, with a directory of US cargo carriers. FX shows 46 B763F's on order (2014-2018). Are these new aircraft from Boeing, or converted pax airline birds?

If they're new, is Boeing fitting the B777-style panel to these, or the older/original semi-glass panels?

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FX B763F's On Order - New Or Converted Pax Frames?

Sun May 26, 2013 12:37 am

Quoting brucek (Thread starter):
FX shows 46 B763F's on order (2014-2018). Are these new aircraft from Boeing, or converted pax airline birds?

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FX B763F's On Order - New Or Converted Pax Frames?

Sun May 26, 2013 12:45 am

I have read that FedEx has ordered 27 new 767-3S2ER freighters.
They also have deferred 11 777-FS2 freighters.   
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FX B763F's On Order - New Or Converted Pax Frames?

Sun May 26, 2013 9:10 pm

Quoting brucek (Thread starter):
If they're new, is Boeing fitting the B777-style panel to these, or the older/original semi-glass panels?

I believe they're getting the same cockpit as the tanker which is similar to the 787 -- see previous discussion.

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RE: FX B763F's On Order - New Or Converted Pax Frames?

Mon May 27, 2013 10:37 pm

Fedex has 50 767-300 freighters on order.
http://seattletimes.com/html/busines...ogy/2019938911_boeingfedexxml.html
The first three aircraft will have the original designed diplays and the fourth aircraft will be used for STC of Rockwell Collins 15 inch displays & hud.
http://www.rockwellcollins.com/sitec...CS/FY12CSNR35-767_Flight_Deck.aspx

 
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RE: FX B763F's On Order - New Or Converted Pax Frames?

Mon May 27, 2013 11:41 pm

Quoting wrenchon727,reply=4

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Fedex has 50 767-300 freighters on order.

With the downturn in the air freight market and FX contracting for belly space on other airlines, do you think FX might want to defer deliveries which might create a hole in the assembly line that someone (like maybe Delta) might jump on to place a top off order where they could get early delivery of 10-20 frames?

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RE: FX B763F's On Order - New Or Converted Pax Frames?

Tue May 28, 2013 2:06 pm

Quoting atlengineer (Reply 5):
With the downturn in the air freight market and FX contracting for belly space on other airlines, do you think FX might want to defer deliveries which might create a hole in the assembly line that someone (like maybe Delta) might jump on to place a top off order where they could get early delivery of 10-20 frames?

DL is rumored to be buying additional A330s - RUMOR: DL To Order 30 A321 + 10 A330 (by Triple7Lr May 25 2013 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: FX B763F's On Order - New Or Converted Pax Frames?

Tue May 28, 2013 2:51 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 6):
Quoting atlengineer (Reply 5):
With the downturn in the air freight market and FX contracting for belly space on other airlines, do you think FX might want to defer deliveries which might create a hole in the assembly line that someone (like maybe Delta) might jump on to place a top off order where they could get early delivery of 10-20 frames?

DL is rumored to be buying additional A330s - RUMOR: DL To Order 30 A321 + 10 A330 (by Triple7Lr May 25 2013 in Civil Aviation)

I know that rumor is on-going, but I was posing a question and responding to Reply 4 which was in regard to 767's. Not sure I understand your reply to my post. DL could do a top off order for 767's and still order A321's and A330's if they had an opening in the 767 line and chose to.

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RE: FX B763F's On Order - New Or Converted Pax Frames?

Tue May 28, 2013 3:00 pm

Quoting atlengineer (Reply 7):
I know that rumor is on-going, but I was posing a question and responding to Reply 4 which was in regard to 767's. Not sure I understand your reply to my post. DL could do a top off order for 767's and still order A321's and A330's if they had an opening in the 767 line and chose to.

I find it unlikely DL would place a large 767 order when they're rumored to be placing a decent A330 order and they have a large 787 order on the books.

Plus the 767s for FX are to replace MD-10s so FX may still take the 767s on schedule due to their superior operating economics which would mean no available slots for DL - at least not in a significant number.
 
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RE: FX B763F's On Order - New Or Converted Pax Frames?

Tue May 28, 2013 4:31 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 8):
I find it unlikely DL would place a large 767 order when they're rumored to be placing a decent A330 order and they have a large 787 order on the books.

Plus the 767s for FX are to replace MD-10s so FX may still take the 767s on schedule due to their superior operating economics which would mean no available slots for DL - at least not in a significant number.

Stitch:

Thanks. I think you are probably right.

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RE: FX B763F's On Order - New Or Converted Pax Frames?

Tue May 28, 2013 6:51 pm

Quoting atlengineer (Reply 5):
With the downturn in the air freight market and FX contracting for belly space on other airlines, do you think FX might want to defer deliveries

While certainly nothing is set in stone, I think it would be more likely that FX would keep their delivery schedule and merely accelerate the MD retirements. The 767 order / MD retirement allows FX a nice flexibility to match capacity with demand.


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