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SIA Orders 30x 787-10X & 30x A359 + Options

Thu May 30, 2013 11:02 am

Singapore Airlines has just ordered 30 Boeing 787-10Xs.

Singapore Airlines orders 787-10Xs and A350s worth $17bn

[Edited 2013-05-30 04:25:43 by SA7700]

[Edited 2013-05-30 04:36:52]
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 11:08 am

http://twitter.com/ReutersAero/status/340060082614185985

> 30x B787-10X
> 30x A350-900

Looks like SQ will be the launch customer of the 787-10X.

[Edited 2013-05-30 04:10:52]
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Thu May 30, 2013 11:24 am

Interesting. This would be their third order for the A350-900 before it has even flown for a total of 70. With the 30 10X's that makes 100 aircraft in the 300-325 segment essentially equaling the entire size of their current fleet. Maybe many of the 787-10s will be going to Scoot.

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Thu May 30, 2013 11:27 am

Full article here:
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-787-10x-with-order-for-30-386486/

So to sum up:

> 30x B787-10X and launch customer of the type
> 30x A350-900
> 20x A350(-900/-1000) options
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Thu May 30, 2013 11:28 am

Hmmm .. Paris has started early.
 

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Thu May 30, 2013 11:32 am

Oh the Paris airshow is certainly going to be very interesting indeed with the widebodies.
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Thu May 30, 2013 11:34 am

Will this be A359 for SIA main line and 787-10 for Scoot?

Really wonder when SQ will order A350-1000 though.
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Thu May 30, 2013 11:36 am

Lets hope so, Boeing needs some good news for a change and an airline with Singapore's Stature would be grest emdorsement.
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 11:40 am

And this even before the Paris Air Show and the first Flight.
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 11:41 am

Thats the end for the last 772 and 773s then, and as well for the A333s.

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 6):
Really wonder when SQ will order A350-1000 though.

The 77Ws are still a bit young to be retired I would say.
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 11:43 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 1):
30x A350-900

And according to the FG article, 20 options that can be for -900 or -1000.

Quote:

"Today's aircraft orders are among the biggest in Singapore Airlines' history, helping to ensure that we retain our industry leading position," says chief executive Goh Choon Phong.

Yes indeed.

Continues the trend at SIA for making significant purchases.

It also gives both A and B fans something to be happy about!   

Seems someone has already bumped up the totals on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_airlines#Fleet

They also provided a reference: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...ion-of-airbus-boeing-aircraft.html

Not much more in that article from what I can tell.

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Thu May 30, 2013 11:51 am

Boeing really needed a bit of good news flow, and coming from Singapore, it gives the proposed B787-10X a blue chip endorsement.

Congrats to Boeing, Airbus and Singapore.

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Thu May 30, 2013 11:55 am

The thread title should be changed

Quoting na (Reply 9):
Thats the end for the last 772 and 773s then, and as well for the A333s.

Hmmm ... SIA still has 13 A333 on order.
I cant see them leave the fleet that early.
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 11:59 am

Quoting chiad (Reply 12):
Hmmm ... SIA still has 13 A333 on order.
I cant see them leave the fleet that early.

IIRC, the initial batch of 19 A333s were on 6-year leases. Not sure if anything has changed since the A333s were delivered.

[Edited 2013-05-30 05:02:11]
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:03 pm

Its not 100% clear to me that the 30 359s are additional to the 20 original order plus the recent 20 top-up. FG says "as it firmed orders for 30 more Airbus A350-900s."

If the 20 top-ups were not firmed before today, this new order represents only 10 additional for a total of 50 now firm.
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:05 pm

Quoting 9vswr (Reply 13):
IIRC, the initial batch of 19 A333s were on 6-year leases. Not sure if anything has changed since the A333s were delivered.

These will obviously leave the fleet.
But that of the 13 on order?
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:07 pm

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 6):
Will this be A359 for SIA main line and 787-10 for Scoot?

It could, or maybe SQ has enough different routes to operate both aircraft. The A359 and 78J are similar sized but with a different range each.

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 6):
Really wonder when SQ will order A350-1000 though.

When the time is ready, after the design freeze of the -1000 maybe. Their options and conversion rights for the larger type clearly shows their interest for the A350-1000.

Quoting JerseyFlyer (Reply 14):
Its not 100% clear to me that the 30 359s are additional to the 20 original order plus the recent 20 top-up. FG says "as it firmed orders for 30 more Airbus A350-900s."

If the 20 top-ups were not firmed before today, this new order represents only 10 additional for a total of 50 now firm.

Those 40 aircraft were already firmed so we're now looking at 70 A350 aircraft.
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:15 pm

Quoting na (Reply 9):
Quoting frigatebird (Reply 6):Really wonder when SQ will order A350-1000 though.
The 77Ws are still a bit young to be retired I would say.

They are now, but in 2019 most of them will be around 12 years old, about the age when SQ usually retires their aircraft. That is also about the first availability for A350-1000 delivery slots I believe.
Speaking about delivery, the first of these new order will be delivered 2016-2017. Did SQ have options on A350s?

I suppose the 20 new options for either -900 or -1000 could be used for possible 77W replacement. Maybe SQ wants to see more information about the 777X before making a decision.

When will the 8 77W's SQ has on order be delivered?
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:15 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 16):
It could, or maybe SQ has enough different routes to operate both aircraft. The A359 and 78J are similar sized but with a different range each.

This, I think, is the appeal of the 7810. It is ideal for airlines not needing the range of the A359, and therefore should cost less to own and operate. Just as the A333 and 772 have nicely coexisted, I think the A359 and the 7810 will find a similar fate. I believe Boeing made the right decision not to try and increase the range of the 7810.
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:15 pm

787-10's might indeed be atleast partially for Scoot.

Scoot CEO back in March said they were looking at the proposed -10 with interest.

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Thu May 30, 2013 12:16 pm

If the 7510s are for Scoot, SIA's mainline fleet will be all-Airbus in the not too distant future - A333's, A359/10s, and A388s.

Quite a turnaround from all-Boeing - 744s and 777s only after having traded 17 x 343s to Boeing in recent memory!
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:21 pm

Also interesting is the speculated list price of the larger 787:

Quote:
SIA announcement gives first rough indication of 10X pricing: backing out A359 from $17bln deal implies at least $312m, 28% premium to 789


> 787-8: $206.8m
> 787-9: $243.6m
> 787-10X: $312m

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Thu May 30, 2013 12:23 pm

Quoting JerseyFlyer (Reply 20):
If the 7510s are for Scoot, SIA's mainline fleet will be all-Airbus in the not too distant future - A333's, A359/10s, and A388s.

As said earlier, A333s are only on 6 year leases and were intended to bridge the gap until 787/A350 could be delivered.

And SQ has still 8x 77W to be delivered.

I'm sure SQ will also take a good look at the 777X, and who knows, perhaps order them to fill the gap between A350 and A380 if necessary.
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:27 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 10):
And according to the FG article, 20 options that can be for -900 or -1000.

Not - 800, or?

[Edited 2013-05-30 05:29:30]
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:28 pm

Quoting Blueshamu330s (Reply 11):
Boeing really needed a bit of good news flow, and coming from Singapore, it gives the proposed B787-10X a blue chip endorsement.

Not sure I'd paint the picture that way. Sure the 787 program has provided a lot of disappointments but the fundamentals have been clear for a while, and they are that the 787 is a product the customers want and need.

Despite the bad public image, Boeing's order books are full, their stock price is high and their financials are solid even with the challenges that are coming from government spending and it's own failures to execute.

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 17):

I suppose the 20 new options for either -900 or -1000 could be used for possible 77W replacement. Maybe SQ wants to see more information about the 777X before making a decision.

That sounds about right. Seems 787-10X is around six months ahead of 777X in terms of it being a firmed product offering.

Quoting JerseyFlyer (Reply 20):
Quite a turnaround from all-Boeing - 744s and 777s only after having traded 17 x 343s to Boeing in recent memory!

Good point, but as above SIA rebuilds on a 12 year cycle so I'm thinking we'll be seeing 777Xs, and these may dampen SIA's zeal for A380s as they come off lease. Not saying that the A380 will disappear, just saying it make be more optimal for roles the A380 might be to big/expensive to continue to hold.
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:32 pm

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 18):
This, I think, is the appeal of the 7810. It is ideal for airlines not needing the range of the A359, and therefore should cost less to own and operate.

Cost less to operate, yes. But I would wager that the 787-10 cost more to buy than the A359 even with SQ being the launch customer. ~$40 million higher at list price. After they sell a couple hundred of these the 787 break even point should more up a little bit   .

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Quoting JerseyFlyer (Reply 20):

If the 7510s are for Scoot, SIA's mainline fleet will be all-Airbus in the not too distant future

Maybe, if you call 2027 not so distant future. They still have 8 77Ws on order.

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Thu May 30, 2013 12:34 pm

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 17):
Quoting na (Reply 9):
Quoting frigatebird (Reply 6):Really wonder when SQ will order A350-1000 though.
The 77Ws are still a bit young to be retired I would say.

They are now, but in 2019 most of them will be around 12 years old, about the age when SQ usually retires their aircraft. That is also about the first availability for A350-1000 delivery slots I believe.

Thats right, SQ will certainly retire the first 77Ws by then.
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:38 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 24):
Good point, but as above SIA rebuilds on a 12 year cycle so I'm thinking we'll be seeing 777Xs, and these may dampen SIA's zeal for A380s as they come off lease. Not saying that the A380 will disappear, just saying it make be more optimal for roles the A380 might be to big/expensive to continue to hold.

Their order of 5 A380 aircraft last year will replace the oldest A380s in 2017, meaning they will have an A380 fleet until 2030 at least.
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:39 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 1):
Looks like SQ will be the launch customer of the 787-10X.

Great news to read that such a respected blue chip customer orders this new airliner first (depending on formal launch by Boeing according to the article in Flightglobal).  .

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 3):
So to sum up:

> 30x B787-10X and launch customer of the type
> 30x A350-900
> 20x A350(-900/-1000) options

Quite an impressive line-up. Especially the 20 options which could become A350-1000's are interesting here.     .

Quoting na (Reply 9):
Thats the end for the last 772 and 773s then, and as well for the A333s.

Not quite I guess. The B7772 has hardly been sold over the last years. The B773 is also hardly orderer anymore, but the B77W is still very successful in securing new orders. Also the A332 and A333 are still very successful in securing new orders.

Quoting Blueshamu330s (Reply 11):
Congrats to Boeing, Airbus and Singapore.

Congratulations to all parties involved are indeed due. Probably Rolls-Royce can also be congratulated.  .

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 16):
When the time is ready, after the design freeze of the -1000 maybe. Their options and conversion rights for the larger type clearly shows their interest for the A350-1000.

My guess is they will take the options and convert them to 20 x A350-1000. But that is purely speculation on my part.

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 22):
I'm sure SQ will also take a good look at the 777X, and who knows, perhaps order them to fill the gap between A350 and A380 if necessary.

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Thu May 30, 2013 12:51 pm

Strange quote in FG that, inferring SIA will only order the aircraft if it is launched....

Well duh!

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Thu May 30, 2013 12:53 pm

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 22):
I'm sure SQ will also take a good look at the 777X, and who knows, perhaps order them to fill the gap between A350 and A380 if necessary.

I think this is the end for the 777X in the SQ main fleet. SQ took the lead in specifying the XWB cabin width as optimum for 9 abreast, and I can see not see where the 777x will fit. The A350-900/1000 can do anything the 77W can do today, and I don't see a need for a 777X with SQ standard Y in 9 abreast if an A350 can do it more effectively and I can not see them go 10 abreast for the premier routes to the US (where the 777X is most suited for) when having a higher standard of seating for non-premium routes.
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:56 pm

Quoting RubberJungle (Thread starter):
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:56 pm

I remember falling off my chair some time in the mid 1990s when SQ ordered 77 777s.

Looks like they'll have that number of A350s.  
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:57 pm

If Airbus can get their newly built A350 in the air in the next few weeks as they plan, I think we could see the floodgates open to a load more orders, as airlines get confidence that any new delays to the A350's launch are unlikely...

When Boeing revealed their 787, it was nearly two years before we saw the aircraft on its initial test flights.

This is a massive order for both companies and congratulations to both manufacturers.
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 12:59 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 29):
Also it says the A359s will be delelivered in 2016 - a bit soon?

They probably had some delivery slots reserved.
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 34):
They probably had some delivery slots reserved.

I believe they are the second airline to receive the A359 after QR and they ordered the A350 more than a year before anyone else as a reward for Airbus in making it an XWB.
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Thu May 30, 2013 1:02 pm

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 28):
Especially the 20 options which could become A350-1000's are interesting here.

Yes the -1000 is picking up a lot of interest lately.

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 33):
If Airbus can get their newly built A350 in the air in the next few weeks as they plan, I think we could see the floodgates open to a load more orders, as airlines get confidence that any new delays to the A350's launch are unlikely...

Leahy was lately hinting about 80 A350 sales this year but if we add all the rumors together I get about 130 orders. Makes we wonder which rumor will stay a rumor   
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Thu May 30, 2013 1:03 pm

SIA has covered their bases nicely! Kudos to them.

Quoting chiad (Reply 4):
Hmmm .. Paris has started early.

That was my first thought. Why not wait for Paris... but if it is a 78J order... This will help final negotiations

Quoting 9vswr (Reply 13):
IIRC, the initial batch of 19 A333s were on 6-year leases.

   Well, IIRC it was 5 years... With an option if SIA so desired for 2 more years. It might have been 6 years... any way, they were *short* leases that were incredibly in SIA's favor.

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 29):
Strange quote in FG that, inferring SIA will only order the aircraft if it is launched....

Well duh!

I think its an out for Boeing... if Boeing changes the specification, SIA also has an out.

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Thu May 30, 2013 1:07 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 37):
I think its an out for Boeing... if Boeing changes the specification, SIA also has an out.

I'm sure Boeing will formally launch at Paris, now, and likely with multiple customers. So it could be SQ getting out front of that announcement.

It will be interesting to see if Boeing also announces an increase in the 787 production rate beyond the planned 10 per month.

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Thu May 30, 2013 1:12 pm

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 28):
Quoting na (Reply 9):
Thats the end for the last 772 and 773s then, and as well for the A333s.

Not quite I guess. The B7772 has hardly been sold over the last years. The B773 is also hardly orderer anymore, but the B77W is still very successful in securing new orders. Also the A332 and A333 are still very successful in securing new orders.

na is talking about SQ retiring the A333s & T7s in their fleet, not the manufacturers shutting the tap on those fine birds.
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Thu May 30, 2013 1:18 pm

Quoting chiad (Reply 15):
Quoting 9vswr (Reply 13):
IIRC, the initial batch of 19 A333s were on 6-year leases. Not sure if anything has changed since the A333s were delivered.

These will obviously leave the fleet.
But that of the 13 on order?

The 78Js will start arriving from 2018-19 to replace existing A330s (some of which will probably have their original 6 year leases extended slightly), while A330s arriving over the next couple of years (to replace regional 777s if I understand correctly) will be replaced by 78Js as their 6 year leases come up from 2020ish. Makes perfect sense to me.

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 18):
I believe Boeing made the right decision not to try and increase the range of the 7810.

I think it's incredible to think that the 78J is a 'regional', 'mid-range' aircraft while having almost as much range as the 744, which was revolutionary in its day. I agree though, Boeing will do more damage than good if they try to push the range up any further.
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 1:23 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 38):
It will be interesting to see if Boeing also announces an increase in the 787 production rate beyond the planned 10 per month.

They will have to go at least to 12/month by 2016 in order to support the demand for the 787-10 by 2018. I can see Boeing going to 14/month by 2016-2017 and they have plenty of capacity to do this.
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Thu May 30, 2013 1:24 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 25):
Cost less to operate, yes. But I would wager that the 787-10 cost more to buy than the A359 even with SQ being the launch customer. ~$40 million higher at list price. After they sell a couple hundred of these the 787 break even point should more up a little bit

List prices have little to do with reality. And initial price is a small part of ownership costs for an airliner. Still, Boeing will have to make the initial cost competitive, or they will not sell any.

Quoting neutrino (Reply 39):
na is talking about SQ retiring the A333s & T7s in their fleet, not the manufacturers shutting the tap on those fine birds.

I think Boeing is not offering the 773 any more, and nobody is buying the 77E. AFAIK all of the orders for 777's in the last couple of years have been for the 77W and 77F. Whether it's official or not, that is the reality.
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Thu May 30, 2013 1:27 pm

Quoting neutrino (Reply 39):
na is talking about SQ retiring the A333s & T7s in their fleet, not the manufacturers shutting the tap on those fine birds.

That could very well be true. In that case I have misinterpreted his post.  
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 1:28 pm

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 33):
If Airbus can get their newly built A350 in the air in the next few weeks as they plan, I think we could see the floodgates open to a load more orders, as airlines get confidence that any new delays to the A350's launch are unlikely...

I don't think the bottleneck is lack of confidence Airbus would be in time with FF... More like first available delivery slots are 6 years away, and that is if flight tests and production ramp-up are going to plan. Only if any uncertainties there have been taken away, we could see airlines ordering in masses again. Could be some years yet (same thing with the 787, the flow of big orders from the first years after introduction still hasn't returned. GFC isn't helping either).
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Thu May 30, 2013 1:47 pm

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 42):
AFAIK all of the orders for 777's in the last couple of years have been for the 77W and 77F. Whether it's official or not, that is the reality.

Funnily enough, the most recent order on the Boeing O&D page is for a single 777L (BBJ) on 26th April. There has been a trickle of 777L orders over the past three years but essentially, you're right. The only two models selling now are the 777W and the 777F. On the other hand, they're selling pretty well!
 
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Thu May 30, 2013 1:49 pm

Quoting JerseyFlyer (Reply 14):
Its not 100% clear to me that the 30 359s are additional to the 20 original order plus the recent 20 top-up. FG says "as it firmed orders for 30 more Airbus A350-900s."

If the 20 top-ups were not firmed before today, this new order represents only 10 additional for a total of 50 now firm.

That one is easy to answer: The Airbus spreadsheet dated April 30th shows 40 A350-900 for SIA. So firming up a further 30 takes that total to 70.

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 29):
Strange quote in FG that, inferring SIA will only order the aircraft if it is launched....

Makes sense, really, as the 787-10X hasn't been formally launched by Boeing yet.
The announcement of American Airlines's 737RE order was worded similarly.

I'm not suggesting that Boeing aren't going to launch it, but it would be pretty silly to not cover these kinds of eventualities in purchase contracts, just in case. And it's probably also important to point this out in the press release given that Boeing hasn't given a formal launch to the project and there are still a few things to sign off on internally.
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Thu May 30, 2013 1:51 pm

Quoting PM (Reply 45):
The only two models selling now are the 777W and the 777F. On the other hand, they're selling pretty well!

Agreed. And they're selling because the only competition they have at this point is the 748. Once the A3510 becomes available in a realistic and predictable time frame, however, this will change (except for the 77F); hence the dire need for Boeing to proceed with the 777x.
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Thu May 30, 2013 1:57 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 10):
And according to the FG article, 20 options that can be for -900 or -1000.

Yes.

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It also took options for 20 more A350-900 aircraft and said these could be converted to the larger A350-1000.

UPDATE: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...lines-orders-idUSL3N0EB2NS20130530
 
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RE: SIA Orders 30x 787-10X & 30x A359 + Options

Thu May 30, 2013 2:04 pm

Quoting anfromme (Reply 46):
Makes sense, really, as the 787-10X hasn't been formally launched by Boeing yet.
The announcement of American Airlines's 737RE order was worded similarly.

I sense that the B787 order is not firm, but "only" a commitment. There is nothing on the Boeing website.
It will be interesting to see the Boeing spreadsheet for April.

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