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Aeroflot's SVO-LAX Non-stop Ilyushin Il-96-300 Flt

Thu May 30, 2013 4:51 pm

Was Aeroflot's Ilyushin Il-96-300 SVO-LAX flight the longest flight in the world for an Ilyushin???


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How are they doing at LAX??

any chance of upgrading their A330 flight to a 777??
 
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RE: Aeroflot's SVO-LAX Non-stop Ilyushin Il-96-300 Flt

Thu May 30, 2013 5:57 pm

Quoting g500 (Thread starter):
How are they doing at LAX??

any chance of upgrading their A330 flight to a 777??

g500,

While I don't have any inside information or numbers on how SU is doing at LAX, I can tell you that the market is large, but for the most part low-yield, and given the long distance involved, I imagine hard to make money on. Non-stop flights under $800 round-trip is the norm, and $500 is not unheard of. Copious competition via one-stops is around the same ballpark price-wise. Given the distance is over 6000sm, I imagine yields are trash, nevertheless an important part of SU's network, as the VFR and business ties between Los Angeles and Moscow are strong. Given that SU has a good amount of 77Ws on order, and that aircraft's proven operating efficiency, I'd think SVO-LAX is a good candidate to see the 77W eventually. Note they are currently operating 6x/week to LAX. Also worth pointing out is that UN - Transaero is also operating LAX-DME 2x/week at the moment, aircraft is 747-400, switching to 777-200 once the summer season ends. Important to point out that these are 2 of the only 3 aircraft in UN's fleet which have a First class cabin (albeit small), the other being the 77W which has a negligible 4-seat F cabin. Given that UN has other aircraft in it's fleet that could do the route - the 77Ws, 743s, and higher density 744s (they have a 352 seat configuration used to LAX, the high density one is 521 seats, no F cabin), I would assume that this means that premium demand between LAX and Moscow exists and is healthy.

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RE: Aeroflot's SVO-LAX Non-stop Ilyushin Il-96-300 Flt

Thu May 30, 2013 6:45 pm

Good analysis by TWA902fly; just one small correction: UN has no 77W only 773.

I also believe that SU will fly the 77W to LAX eventually as they get more of them. They are getting a total of 16 so many more to be delivered (4 so far)

I do remember seeing the Il-96-300 here for many years before being replaced by the 763. I think they flew the IL9 on many other long haul flights but SVO-LAX is probably one of the longer nonstop flights out SVO by SU.

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RE: Aeroflot's SVO-LAX Non-stop Ilyushin Il-96-300 Flt

Thu May 30, 2013 8:17 pm

Quoting g500 (Thread starter):
How are they doing at LAX??

Summers very full, winters quite empty which drives the big shift in frequency between summers and winters to help manage the demand shift.

And yes rates gotta be cheap with SU being an ethnic consolidators special to places like Armenia.
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RE: Aeroflot's SVO-LAX Non-stop Ilyushin Il-96-300 Flt

Fri May 31, 2013 12:20 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Summers very full, winters quite empty which drives the big shift in frequency between summers and winters to help manage the demand shift.

And yes rates gotta be cheap with SU being an ethnic consolidators special to places like Armenia.

thanks, i guess we can discard the idea of seeing an Aeroflot 777 at LAX anytime soon
 
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RE: Aeroflot's SVO-LAX Non-stop Ilyushin Il-96-300 Flt

Fri May 31, 2013 2:46 am

They could support a high density 77W in the summers. For the winter they would have to cut frequency back even further.

I think SU likes to keep up frequencies, and that is why the 763 and now 332 seem to be the aircraft for LAX.
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RE: Aeroflot's SVO-LAX Non-stop Ilyushin Il-96-300 Flt

Fri May 31, 2013 7:22 am

I believe LAX was a tag-on: SVO-ANC-SFO-LAX or SVO-SEA-SFO-LAX.
It was not non-stop.

I flew IL-96 to SFO. It was interesting experience.
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RE: Aeroflot's SVO-LAX Non-stop Ilyushin Il-96-300 Flt

Fri May 31, 2013 3:37 pm

I believe for a while it was tagged onto the SEA route which had both IL-62s, and IL-96s. There were technical stops in ANC. I don't think the IL-96 ever flew nonstop to LAX. They didn't go nonstop until the 767s, but I may be wrong about that.
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