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AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Fri May 31, 2013 9:08 pm

Posted on AA flight attendant webpage today:

We’ll take delivery of our new A319s beginning in July 2013 through 2017 and anticipate beginning service in September 2013. The A319s are scheduled to initially fly between Dallas/Fort Worth and the following cities:

•Beginning Sept. 16: Charlotte, N.C.; Cleveland, Ohio; Memphis, Tenn.; Wichita, Kan.
•Beginning Oct. 1: Dayton, Ohio; Lubbock, Texas
•Beginning Oct. 14: El Paso, Texas; Huntsville, Ala.; McAllen, Texas; Toronto, Canada
•Beginning Nov. 1: San Salvador, El Salvador
•Beginning Dec. 19: Vail, Colo.; Crested Butte, Colo.; Jackson Hole, Wyo.

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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Fri May 31, 2013 9:17 pm

LBB? That one seems a little out there, especially since they haven't even started resuming mainline service there yet. The MD80s will start flying there again in June. Will the A319s replace those or is LBB expected to go all mainline?
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Fri May 31, 2013 9:23 pm

Quoting PDX88 (Reply 1):
LBB? That one seems a little out there,

Given the limited fleet, they might have had only enough time in the day to do a 3 hour rotation somewhere. True they could have done AUS/SAT/IAH etc.
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Fri May 31, 2013 9:41 pm

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 2):
True they could have done AUS/SAT/IAH etc.

+ LIT/MSY/OKC/XNA/?CRP?.

With all the others, AA is sending the A319 into mainline routes with weak load factors. If they were looking for equipment utilization for a 3 hour quick run, IAH, LIT, or OKC would have gotten my vote first.
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Fri May 31, 2013 9:42 pm

ICT and MEM surprise me. Do they even fly mainline to these cities?

I assume ICT could help protect the route with WN now on it.
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Fri May 31, 2013 9:44 pm

Quoting PDX88 (Reply 3):

IAH needs the capacity and is not low yielding. Shame they didn't add a 9th daily service on peak days with it though   although that is probably a selfish request.
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Fri May 31, 2013 10:41 pm

Woohoo! I am so glad McAllen will see the new A319s!! I live in Dallas but travel to my hometown of McAllen/Mission to see my family, and I am ready to see the MD80's fly into the sunset. They put in great service, but it is time to modernize.
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Fri May 31, 2013 10:43 pm

Bummer, was hoping to see MCI on the list
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Fri May 31, 2013 10:48 pm

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 2):
True they could have done AUS/SAT/IAH etc.

  

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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Fri May 31, 2013 10:52 pm

Crested Butte doesn't have airport. It's actually Gunnison, Colorado (KGUC).

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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Fri May 31, 2013 10:53 pm

I was thinking they'd be deployed on longer routes like PDX, which still see MD-80s. ::hint hint hint::  
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Fri May 31, 2013 11:06 pm

First A319 arrives TULE on July, 24th.
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:01 am

The first one has its tail already painted. Theres pics on jetnet. Im wondering if we will get our first look at the airplane once it is completely painted at the Paris Air Show.
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:01 am

Quoting Q (Reply 9):
Crested Butte doesn't have airport. It's actually Gunnison, Colorado (KGUC).

The airport is known as "Gunnison-Crested Butte Regional Airport". Elevation (7,678 ft asl) must be among the highest of U.S. airports with scheduled service. It's about 360 ft. higher than MEX and about 2,200 ft. higher than DEN.
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:21 am

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 4):
ICT and MEM surprise me. Do they even fly mainline to these cities?

Yes, to MEM. Mostly the MD-80 while I did see a 738 a while back.
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:17 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13):

OK, thanks for explained. It must've changed add new name airport. I didn't know.

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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:53 am

Why haven't these flights and the A319 been put into their reservation system?
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:57 am

Quoting sw733 (Reply 7):
Bummer, was hoping to see MCI on the list

Yay! TPA is NOT on the list.......MD-80s forever !!!!!!!   
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:35 am

[quote=Independence76,reply=16][/quote

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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:32 am

I heard LIT was getting them too.
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:38 am

Here you go :
. Of course it has a German flag on the tail because the aircraft is registered in Germany until delivery to AA. The aircraft will be reregistered in the US and the flag will be removed .

[Edited 2013-05-31 20:49:49]
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:51 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 10):
I was thinking they'd be deployed on longer routes like PDX, which still see MD-80s. ::hint hint hint::

I think that AA will replace the M80 with the 738 for DFW-PDX service, as the returning ORD-PDX flights will be operating with 738's. But I am with you brother, those tired M80s need to go, as is planned. PDX is still AA's longest distance M80 route. I have been flying AA from PDX since before the M80 was in the AA fleet. I remember flying AA 727-100/200 aircraft to DFW, EUG, SEA and ORD out of PDX since the early to mid 80's. Yikes, that is 30 years.... I'm showing my age.   
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:02 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 21):
I think that AA will replace the M80 with the 738 for DFW-PDX service, as the returning ORD-PDX flights will be operating with 738's.

I'm sure you're right, but I was hoping for at least one 319—that might prompt the return of the red-eye to DFW. I still like aspects of the MD-80, but if its expense to run causes us to sacrifice service, I'll take a 737 or 319 on the route instead.
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:07 am

I'm looking forward to seeing the new type in the fleet. Something new to photograph as well!
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:16 am

I was surprised to see ELP on the list, I figured ELP would be one of the last stations to see a new type, mainly because it is a relatively short segment (1:20 or so) and the load factors are good, or have been every time I've flown out of there on AA, so the chances of having anything other than the MD-80 flying those routes until the bitter end seemed remote at best.
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:20 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 22):

I'm sure you're right, but I was hoping for at least one 319—that might prompt the return of the red-eye to DFW. I still like aspects of the MD-80, but if its expense to run causes us to sacrifice service, I'll take a 737 or 319 on the route instead.

I am pretty sure any A319 coming from DFW to PDX will unfortunately be on NK and not AA. And after having taken the NK 319 to DFW and back, I know that AAs would be much preferred. Everytime I've taken the red eye to DFW it's been full. I know it has been seasonal.
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:22 am

Quoting etops1 (Reply 20):
Here you go :

Up close the tail looks OK- at a distance it is just too much. As a US (soon to be AA) employee, I can only hope the tail is modified. The fuselage and the bold "American" titles are just fine-- but that tail.

In any event it will be nice and interesting to see an Airbus in AA colors before US planes start to get painted.
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:33 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 21):
PDX is still AA's longest distance M80 route.

Actually, when it was still flown by M80s (now flown by 738s) YYC was their longest route i believe
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:47 am

Quoting yycspotter (Reply 27):
Quoting RWA380 (Reply 21):
PDX is still AA's longest distance M80 route.

Actually, when it was still flown by M80s (now flown by 738s) YYC was their longest route i believe

Historically the longest AA MD80 route was ORD-SFO at 1846 miles. DFW-YYC is 1523
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:52 am

CLT is right about the same time the merger closes...so it will be interesting to see if US metal loses a frequency at the same time.
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:16 am

US AC will begin being painted in Sep . All deliveries scheduled after merger closing will be delivered in new AA Branding .
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:15 am

Quoting yycspotter (Reply 27):
Actually, when it was still flown by M80s (now flown by 738s) YYC was their longest route i believe
Quoting HNL (Reply 28):
Historically the longest AA MD80 route was ORD-SFO at 1846 miles. DFW-YYC is 1523

I was referring to currently operating flights. Next longest currently is DFW-FAT, IIRC.
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:57 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 31):

The longest current MD80 routes for AA are:

ORD-SJD - 1807 miles
ORD-PSP - 1652 miles
DFW-PDX - 1616 miles
LAX-STL - 1592 miles
ORD-LAS - 1514 miles
ORD-PHX - 1440 miles
DFW-SJC - 1438 miles
ORD-TUS - 1437 miles
DFW-SMF - 1431 miles
DFW-LGA - 1389 miles
DFW-EWR - 1376 miles
DFW-FAT - 1313 miles...nowhere close to 2nd longest

If I missed any let me know.

[Edited 2013-06-01 02:16:45]

[Edited 2013-06-01 02:21:59]
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:11 am

Quoting flyfree727 (Thread starter):
The A319s are scheduled to initially fly between Dallas/Fort Worth and the following cities:

•Beginning Sept. 16: Charlotte, N.C.; Cleveland, Ohio; Memphis, Tenn.; Wichita, Kan.

MEM received MD-80 service on AA's first day with the type; AA's first MD-80 routes were DFW-ONT/MEM/BNA/DTW.

So, MEM is the only city that can say they were served on the first day of both AA MD-80s and A319s.
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:40 am



Quoting PDX88 (Reply 32):

I know AA flies M80s from ORD and LAX to AUS- how long are those routes?



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[Edited 2013-06-01 04:45:31]
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:13 pm

http://gc.kls2.com/

ORD-AUS - 978 miles
LAX-AUS - 1242 miles
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:37 pm

Historically, hasn't the Super 80 served both DFW and ORD to YVR? That to me would seem a fairly long route for the aircraft? I also thought in previous years it flew DFW to BDL, PVD, and BOS.
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:00 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 17):
Yay! TPA is NOT on the list.......MD-80s forever !!!!!!!

I have to say for once I agree with you on something...

but you know damn well when you find out that AA is bringing an A319 to TPA, you will be the first one out there trying to get a picture of it.
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:08 pm

I would think DFW-CVG and CMH could sustain a A319. There is no mainline CVG-DFW its all American Eagle and Delta Connection.
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:39 pm

Quoting flyfree727 (Thread starter):
Beginning Oct. 14: El Paso
Quoting MrBuzzcut (Reply 24):
I was surprised to see ELP on the list, I figured ELP would be one of the last stations to see a new type, mainly because it is a relatively short segment (1:20 or so) and the load factors are good, or have been every time I've flown out of there on AA, so the chances of having anything other than the MD-80 flying those routes until the bitter end seemed remote at best.

Every MD80 I've ever flown DFW-ELP has been 100% full.

But don't 319s have fewer seats than MD80s?

That's not going to work.   
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:03 pm

From what I understand AA has decided on a final configuration of 8F 112Y (incl MCE).
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:07 pm

RNO-DFW is around 1360mi from what I can tell, not the longest but up there. The return is about 1430mi as well.

[Edited 2013-06-01 08:08:40]
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:25 pm

A bit off topic sorry. When will the 319s be comming to MIA?

What routes will they initially fly out of MIA?
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:54 pm

Quoting mia305 (Reply 42):
A bit off topic sorry. When will the 319s be comming to MIA?

What routes will they initially fly out of MIA?

IMHO I dont think it will be till sometime in 2014 at the earliest. For now I think the main focus of the 319s will be to dump 80 routes. Since MIA does not have 80s not as urgent for now.
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:01 pm

Quoting nwcoflyer (Reply 26):
Up close the tail looks OK- at a distance it is just too much

Funny. Having seen it up close in person; I have the exact opposite reaction. Form a distance.....tolerable.....up close.....way to busy.
There is even a shade of orange in there......Orange???? One things for sure...that tail stands out in a crowd. Instantly recognizable. Maybe that is what they were going for?

But I will say that I think they got the rest absolutely 100% correct. The grey (silver?), the billboard name and the logo all work. Now if they would just put something, anything, on that darn naked winglet.
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:06 pm

Quoting etops1 (Reply 30):
US AC will begin being painted in Sep . All deliveries scheduled after merger closing will be delivered in new AA Branding .

Not that I doubt you, but source?
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:20 pm

Quoting 777STL (Reply 45):
Not that I doubt you, but source?

Does it need a source? It should be easy to deduce that if the expected closing date of the merger is Aug. 31st, then US planes would begin getting a repaint in Sept.
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:31 pm

Now I'm confused, will these models have sharklets?
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:55 pm

I am your source .. I have no reason to give you false info  
 
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RE: AA Airbus 319 Routes From DFW

Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:04 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 39):
But don't 319s have fewer seats than MD80s?

8F/18MCE/102Y. I was surprised to see the F cabin is going to be so small. Very unlike AA.

Quoting 9lflyguy (Reply 47):
Now I'm confused, will these models have sharklets?

Yes, they will all have sharklets. I believe the first AA A319 is the test aircraft for the Sharklet.
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