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Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:36 am

Due to length of the previous thread, here is part 6.

Previous thread: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 5 (by iowaman Feb 2 2013 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:37 am

Welcome to part 6!!!

It's been a while since I've been in Phoenix- Part 5 was started in February   

It's been kinda a slow news time for PHX, but oh well, at least the weather seems to be getting hot again   

In Japan, the weather is soooo humid...I almost can't take it!!

Some talking points-
F9 apparently not flying to AZA, per the updated schedule
Quite a few BA repos coming through PHX (POST YOUR PHOTOS!!!!)
AS starting service ANC-PHX
Anything else???

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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:41 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
AS starting service ANC-PHX
Anything else???

Great news for AS and the PHX community. I think this has been a long time coming. I feel like half the time I fly PHX-SEA a large portion of the connections are to ANC.

With DL closing MEM the rumor is that DL will be ending PHX-MEM. I remember not so long ago, 2010 or 2011 i think, that this flight was 2x A320/A319. Any possibility that US or WN fills in if the route ends? I know US used to fly this route with a couple daily CRJ-900s.

Also it appears UAs PHX-CLE will be back this fall down a frequency from 2 to 1 daily compared to last year.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:08 pm

Quoting osubuckeyes (Reply 2):
With DL closing MEM the rumor is that DL will be ending PHX-MEM. I remember not so long ago, 2010 or 2011 i think, that this flight was 2x A320/A319. Any possibility that US or WN fills in if the route ends? I know US used to fly this route with a couple daily CRJ-900s.

I think its only a matter of time till WN starts up MEM-PHX, even if DL stays on the route which probably isn't likely now that the hub is gone. I doubt US/AA will restart that route as they will have bigger fish to fry then a route that would only be on RJ's.
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:11 am

Does anyone know why there's a KC-135 (or whatever the ANG calls their 707s) without a tail at the ANG base? I've seen it the parked over there last few weeks.

Quoting osubuckeyes (Reply 2):
Great news for AS and the PHX community. I think this has been a long time coming. I feel like half the time I fly PHX-SEA a large portion of the connections are to ANC.

Not only are people connecting down from ANC (there were a bunch on my flight tonight) but a few come from the North Slope. Lots of oil workers live down here and work up there.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:13 pm

Quoting chrisair (Reply 4):
Does anyone know why there's a KC-135 (or whatever the ANG calls their 707s) without a tail at the ANG base? I've seen it the parked over there last few weeks.

It has been without it's vertical stabilizer for a while. I was wondering the same thing, but I assume that the hangers are full an they had to send the stabilizer out for major repairs. I was spotting on t-4 and the strange thing is that the opening seemed to not be covered.

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 3):
I think its only a matter of time till WN starts up MEM-PHX, even if DL stays on the route which probably isn't likely now that the hub is gone. I doubt US/AA will restart that route as they will have bigger fish to fry then a route that would only be on RJ's.

Agree, also if the new AA/US is going to be pulling down flights from PHX, I do not see them adding anything anytime soon.

I was checking out HA-35 and saw this tracking on flightaware. I know that it is notorious for being wrong, but this is totally different any the normal track. They must of found some serious winds as they flew up past Las Vegas all the way up to San Francisco and came in ahead of schedule.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/H...5/history/20130606/1500Z/KPHX/PHNL
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:24 pm

Quoting aztrainer (Reply 5):
I was checking out HA-35 and saw this tracking on flightaware. I know that it is notorious for being wrong, but this is totally different any the normal track. They must of found some serious winds as they flew up past Las Vegas all the way up to San Francisco and came in ahead of schedule.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/H.../PHNL

The flight path looks correct. If you look at the filed route it was via OAK:
CHILY3 BTY OAL OAK BEBOP BAART R464 BARAZ R464 BOARD R464 BITTA MAGGI3

Checking other days, they seem to fly to LAX and then out so you are probably correct in assuming that the winds were more favorable by flying north to OAK and then southwest to HNL.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:46 pm

Quoting PSAJet17 (Reply 6):
Checking other days, they seem to fly to LAX and then out so you are probably correct in assuming that the winds were more favorable by flying north to OAK and then southwest to HNL.

Yeah, I have been on the flight a lot and have never flown that far north. That must of been a killer tailwind. Thanks for the info.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:48 pm

Quoting aztrainer (Reply 5):
I was spotting on t-4 and the strange thing is that the opening seemed to not be covered.

It also didn't appear to be weighted or tied down. It looks really bizarre.

Quoting aztrainer (Reply 7):
Yeah, I have been on the flight a lot and have never flown that far north. That must of been a killer tailwind.

Wouldn't the westbound flight encounter a headwind, not a tailwind?  
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:55 pm

Quoting chrisair (Reply 8):
It also didn't appear to be weighted or tied down. It looks really bizarre.

Well, all of the engines were still on the frame, so the CG would be moved a little farther forward. I do not think it would require extra security to the ground. Heck, with our horizontal winds it may make it more stable than if the horizontal stabilizer was on the plane.

Quoting chrisair (Reply 8):
Wouldn't the westbound flight encounter a headwind, not a tailwind?

Oh dang, yeah....I had a brain lockup on that one..... I should of know that as I was on a UA DC-10 in the 90's that went from HNL to LAX in just over 3 hours. My dad asked the pilot what happened and he said that they caught a 180 mph tailwind, but that the flights going over were taking 6+ hours.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:38 am

IFP is said to be increasing some charter flights, rumor says some serious Flint to IFP charters.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:47 am

For whatever reason a DL 330 is on short final to PHX.

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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:20 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 11):
For whatever reason a DL 330 is on short final to PHX.

Same thing showed up on flightradar24 the other night but it was actually an A320 or something, but a continued flight number from Dallas originating from, I believe, Italy? But it wasn't a A333, I know that!
Edit: Ok, I was a bit off. It's a 737 from JFK. But if you look at the link, you'll see the A333 into JFK.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL245

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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:57 pm

WN plane diverted due to a questionable threat/package. I drove by the western end of the airport and DPS and Phoenix PD have the I-10 off ramp closed. The plane is parked over by the executive terminal.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/p...e-diverted-threat-device-abrk.html
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:21 am

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 13):

Runway 26 will be closed for at least another hour. Good thing the controllers have had plenty of practice with (effectively) single-runway ops...  
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:48 am

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 14):

Agree, they stated on the news that there was not an effect on arrivals or departures. I also heard that T-2 was basically shut down due to the fact that people could not get to the terminal. Shish.

My wife asked why the did not put it down someplace else and I simply said direct route and they wanted down now. I just do not understand the F-16 escort when it was a explosive threat and not a hijacking.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:25 am

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 15):

Wouldn't have it been better to divert to TUS?
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:41 am

I would think the reason it went to Phx vs tus or even aza would have to do with how timely law enforcement can secure the aircraft. Tuscon and mesa may not be best located to get the FBI there in force before the aircraft lands and the level of availability of local law enforcement.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:51 am

Quoting Sevensixtyseven (Reply 16):
Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 15):

Wouldn't have it been better to divert to TUS?

If I were to take a guess it would be a combination of the time you factor in the decent and approach it would end up being a wash or relatively little extra distance to go to PHX. Then given that PHX is a major hub for two major airlines (WN being one of them), PHX SWAT might be better prepared to deal with such a scenario than TUS SWAT would be given that there is a higher probability of it occurring in PHX.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:27 am

Azcentral is saying that the f16s were not escorting the plane but rather were monitoring them.....?
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:11 pm

I would think that an approach to PHX was a direct line for a flight between LAX and Austin. As if goes for LEO, I do not think that has/had much to do with it as there is a large FBI office in Tucson. AZA would be difficult as there would be no WN service there for passengers.

If it was only about securing the plane, Luke AFB would probably of been the best place to land. Saying that, I also know hat it would of been the last place that WN would of wanted to land. IMHO
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:35 pm

Quoting Sevensixtyseven (Reply 16):
Wouldn't have it been better to divert to TUS?

If you look at the flight data on FlightAware, WN 2675 was at FL370 NE of TUS when they made their turn. Since they had to loose quite a bit of altitude, PHX was a more logical option with a steady direct descent. To land at TUS would have required some circleing or a more rapid descent.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...5/history/20130610/2030Z/KLAX/KPHX
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:23 pm

Quoting PSAJet17 (Reply 21):
If you look at the flight data on FlightAware, WN 2675 was at FL370 NE of TUS when they made their turn. Since they had to loose quite a bit of altitude, PHX was a more logical option with a steady direct descent. To land at TUS would have required some circleing or a more rapid descent.

All true. But you san see that the track then took it right past AZA/IWA and if they were in fact concerned about an onboard threat, getting on the ground and evacuating should be ASAP, right? Maybe Southwest and the passengers would be more inconvenienced, but you wouldn't have gridlocked a city or monkeywrenched a busy airport!
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:24 pm

Quoting osubuckeyes (Reply 2):
With DL closing MEM the rumor is that DL will be ending PHX-MEM. I remember not so long ago, 2010 or 2011 i think, that this flight was 2x A320/A319.

The MEM route was gone for a long time and recently came back this past winter. It was a Pinnacle airlines CRJ-900 flight during the day, then a 738, and now a A319/20. I don't know what the future has in store for PHX-MEM. Maybe the same fate as PHX-CVG?
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:37 pm

Allegiant folks gave a presentation at Cowen Securities today -- saying Allegiant is expecting combined AMR/US Airways to shrink in Phoenix, which will benefit their operation.

For what it's worth, flights to Mexico are on the agenda - aiming for mid 2014.
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:08 am

Quoting stlgph (Reply 24):

I think every airline could benefit from the merger if AA draws down PHX. WN for sure but UA, AS, DL, and G4 all will benefit.
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:50 am

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 25):
I think every airline could benefit from the merger if AA draws down PHX. WN for sure but UA, AS, DL, and G4 all will benefit.

That's why theres a lot of speculation that AA won't draw down PHX much at all. They would be pretty much losing out to other airlines.
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:32 am

Quoting stlgph (Reply 24):
Allegiant folks gave a presentation at Cowen Securities today -- saying Allegiant is expecting combined AMR/US Airways to shrink in Phoenix, which will benefit their operation.

For what it's worth, flights to Mexico are on the agenda - aiming for mid 2014.

The only problem I can see is that the draw-down will be in PHX and G4 flys out of AZA/IWA. That would require people not originating in PHX to take a cab or bus to IAW/AZA. Saying that I agree with dlramp4life that DA, UA AS and WN will step up and take the profitable routes.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 26):
That's why there's a lot of speculation that AA won't draw down PHX much at all. They would be pretty much losing out to other airlines.

Well, to say that US/AA will not cut some flights in PHX will be foolish. I think where the interesting dichotomy could take place is the cost of operation in PHX vs others like LAX, & DFW. There will be only so much space at LAX and I can see it being the international destination for the airlines. That being said, could PHX see international flights. Yes. I can see PHX being the gateway for Mexico flights as that could take some of the load away from LAX and DFW. It will all be a cost analysis decision and what is/are redundant flights between the cities. IMHO
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:21 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 26):
That's why theres a lot of speculation that AA won't draw down PHX much at all. They would be pretty much losing out to other airlines.

There most certainly will be a decrease in service, the extent to which is of course speculation. I think it's safe to say there will be a 5% minimum reduction within the first two years. I say this based on the diminished value of PHX to the new combined carrier (compared to the increased importance of other hub cities) and the reductions that took place in recent mergers' comparable cities (e.g. UA/CO, WN/AT, DL/NW). The majority of that gap will be filled, but most likely by LCCs like WN and G4. PHX won't be decimated ala CVG, MEM, etc., but the cuts will have a significant impact on the dynamic of the market.

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 27):
The only problem I can see is that the draw-down will be in PHX and G4 flys out of AZA/IWA. That would require people not originating in PHX to take a cab or bus to IAW/AZA. Saying that I agree with dlramp4life that DA, UA AS and WN will step up and take the profitable routes.

I agree, because G4's growth is mainly from its creation of the ULCC market in the East Valley, but probably won't be significantly boosted by an AA/US drawback and rather from its own continued expansion. Their future growth may capture some of the market from from those who live in the immediate area (Mesa, Gilbert, Chandler, QC, etc.), but to think that they'll somehow be able to capitalize on any significant number of pax who live in Phoenix and the West Valley is a pipe dream. Like you say, a reduction from AA/US will result in increased business for UA, DL, and in particular WN.

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 27):
Well, to say that US/AA will not cut some flights in PHX will be foolish. I think where the interesting dichotomy could take place is the cost of operation in PHX vs others like LAX, & DFW. There will be only so much space at LAX and I can see it being the international destination for the airlines. That being said, could PHX see international flights. Yes. I can see PHX being the gateway for Mexico flights as that could take some of the load away from LAX and DFW. It will all be a cost analysis decision and what is/are redundant flights between the cities. IMHO

I agree with the first part but you lost me towards the end. I personally don't think PHX can compete on any significant level for Mexico/LATAM service against IAH, MIA, and the obvious AA hubs in DFW and LAX. Mexico and LATAM are expanding markets, but service from PHX to Mexico has traditionally been weak...which is completely illogical to me but that's beside the point. I don't think AA/US will be willing to attempt to put forth the effort to build PHX into a Mexico gateway, but that's of course my opinion. If they were, I would have thought US would have already done so.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:30 am

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 23):
The MEM route was gone for a long time and recently came back this past winter. It was a Pinnacle airlines CRJ-900 flight during the day, then a 738, and now a A319/20

DL/NW has flown MEM-PHX uninterrupted for over 12 years.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:51 pm

On the way to work today I heard a report that a UA flight from IAH-LAX was diverted to PHX due to mysterious smoke in the cockpit. Anyone have any more info on this or what type of aircraft it was?
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:41 pm

Quoting osubuckeyes (Reply 30):
Anyone have any more info on this or what type of aircraft it was?

It was a 752, landed about 2:45 on 26 with one CFR vehicle on standby. It taxied to the gate under its own power, and cancelled due to odors in the cabin.

Likely a pack failure leading to a dirty sock smell.
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:50 pm

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 28):
I agree with the first part but you lost me towards the end. I personally don't think PHX can compete on any significant level for Mexico/LATAM service against IAH, MIA, and the obvious AA hubs in DFW and LAX. Mexico and LATAM are expanding markets, but service from PHX to Mexico has traditionally been weak...which is completely illogical to me but that's beside the point. I don't think AA/US will be willing to attempt to put forth the effort to build PHX into a Mexico gateway, but that's of course my opinion. If they were, I would have thought US would have already done so.

I was talking about elevating some of the pressure at LAX to move in the more profitable Trans-pacific routes. In reflection of saying that the farthest west that US currently flys is Hawai'i, so that may be a very illogical point. I just wonder at what point does LAX reach capacity and becomes financially too high to operate. Other have stated that they could see US moving the Hawai'i flight to LAX, but I think that they will stay in PHX as they have proven to be very successful and profitable where they are and it would not add other flights into a saturated LAX to Hawai'i routes.

Quoting osubuckeyes (Reply 30):
n the way to work today I heard a report that a UA flight from IAH-LAX was diverted to PHX due to mysterious smoke in the cockpit. Anyone have any more info on this or what type of aircraft it was?

This occurred yesterday (From AZcentral)


A Los Angeles-bound flight made an emergency landing in Phoenix on Wednesday afternoon after smoke was found in the cockpit, according to a spokesman from Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport.

United Airlines flight 468 landed in Phoenix safely about 2:45 p.m., and maintenance crews are inspecting the plane, a spokesman for United Airlines said.

It was unclear what caused the smoke.

The flight was headed to Los Angeles from Houston. United Airlines is trying to get the passengers on another flight this evening, the airline spokesperson said.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:50 am

any updates on the Volaris thing?
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:40 pm

Does anyone know the largest planes for domestic flights scheduled into PHX this summer? (I know about the daily HA 767, the BA 747 doesn't count)
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:51 am

Quoting Sevensixtyseven (Reply 34):
Does anyone know the largest planes for domestic flights scheduled into PHX this summer? (I know about the daily HA 767, the BA 747 doesn't count)

B757-200 (probably no -300s in the summer), A321, B737-900.

US hasn't ever had scheduled wide body service (which is ridiculous, IMO), making the 752/321 the largest aircraft they've ever operated and currently operate from PHX.

DL seasonally operates with a B767-300, although I think that went away some time ago and I don't think has operated in the summer. The 757-300 is common in the spring/fall but, as far as I know, does not operate during the summer season. They also send the occasional A330, but mostly in the spring/fall and it is usually a last minute upgauge rather than scheduled service.

UA used to sub the odd wide body, but its been a long time. Like DL, they still operate the B757-200 regularly and last year had occasional -300 service. B737-900s are very common.

AA and WN don't operate anything larger than the B737-800. AS has -800s and occasional -900s, I think.

I'm pretty sure that covers it. Hopefully that helps.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:27 am

Quoting Sevensixtyseven (Reply 34):
Does anyone know the largest planes for domestic flights scheduled into PHX this summer? (I know about the daily HA 767, the BA 747 doesn't count)

atcsundevil covered all the passenger flights I believe. There are several cargo heavy's, FX sends in MD-10s and A300s regularly, 5X usually uses a 763 and ABX/DHL typically use a 762.
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:30 am

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 35):

One of the ATL turns on DL is a 753, flight 1546 I believe.
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:20 am

The DL 763D is usually during the winter for a month or so.

Of course we can always wonder about the merger and see if that spawns a larger airframe being sent to Hawaii or Alaska.
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:12 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 38):
The DL 763D is usually during the winter for a month or so.

Well, define "usually". DL used to have B763 service pretty much year-round until a couple of years ago when it randomly disappeared, then randomly reappeared, then randomly disappeared again. For the past 2-3 years its kinda seemed like a crapshoot to me.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:38 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 38):
Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 39):

It should be back in November for holiday travelers. If a 763 comes in now it will be a equipment upgrade or sub. With DL taking two 763s out of storage maybe PHX will be lucky to see some more regular widebody service which is always a nice sight to see as a traveler and employee.

Also do keep in mind that HA A330s will be soon be a common sight in PHX.
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:06 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 38):
[Of course we can always wonder about the merger and see if that spawns a larger airframe being sent to Hawaii or Alaska.

If you're talking about US/AA, not a chance to Hawaii. Widebodies would kill margins with their current cost structure, which is almost certain to increase after the merger. And why Alaska? The largest plane ANC has supported for the last 5 or so years is a 320, and has only sporadically seen a second daily flight.
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:43 pm

Quoting wn676 (Reply 41):
If you're talking about US/AA, not a chance to Hawaii. Widebodies would kill margins with their current cost structure, which is almost certain to increase after the merger. And why Alaska? The largest plane ANC has supported for the last 5 or so years is a 320, and has only sporadically seen a second daily flight.

Agree, why would they add wide body on flights that do fine with their 752's to Hawai'i. HA can fill a 763 because they only fly to HNL, but US is flying to HNL, LHU, OGG, and KOA

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 40):
Also do keep in mind that HA A330s will be soon be a common sight in PHX.

Well, I have a booked flight going out on December 21st and coming back on December 28th and it states it still is a 763. Do you know if they are going to swap gates before they start to fly the A330 into PHX?

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 36):
There are several cargo heavy's, FX sends in MD-10s and A300s regularly, 5X usually uses a 763 and ABX/DHL typically use a 762.

You are correct, but you forgot that FX also flys the MD-11
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:56 pm

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 42):
HA can fill a 763 because they only fly to HNL, but US is flying to HNL, LHU, OGG, and KOA

Well, and HA only has widebodies...for now  . US can also offer more frequencies with the smaller 757s which gives them an advantage in schedule. Compare their schedule this December, when they're flying 4 daily to HNL versus HA's single flight. I don't think this trend to smaller aircraft will reverse itself anytime soon.
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:07 pm

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 42):
Well, I have a booked flight going out on December 21st and coming back on December 28th and it states it still is a 763. Do you know if they are going to swap gates before they start to fly the A330 into PHX?

I am not aware of any dates of when the A330 will be coming in or gate changes.. sorry
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:55 pm

Quoting wn676 (Reply 43):
Well, and HA only has widebodies...for now . US can also offer more frequencies with the smaller 757s which gives them an advantage in schedule.

True, but you also do not have to book a trip on US 6+ months in advanced to get seats with the people that you are traveling with you. I book 10 months in advanced and they are normally at 30 - 40% occupancy at that time.

Thanks for the info that you know about HA. Also remember to drink a lot of water out on the ramp.
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:13 am

With the fire up in Prescott area they are bringing another DC-10 tanker from Pueblo, CO.

This means that there will be two DC-10's stained at IWA/AZA
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:48 am

Quoting AllegiantFlyer (Reply 33):
any updates on the Volaris thing?

According to this document Volaris was approved on June 06 for GDL/MEX-PHX
http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=DOT-OST-2013-0108-0002

But no announcement as of today
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:33 am

Does anybody know the registration number of the BAe-146/RJ-85 fire air tanker that is in Prescott working on the Doce fire?

Thanks.

Edit: Disregard. I located the info I needed. It is N146FF.

Thanks.

[Edited 2013-06-19 17:50:23]
 
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RE: Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 6

Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:53 pm

Quoting PSAJet17 (Reply 48):

I thought that there are two up in Prescott?

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