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OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:24 pm

INSTRUCTIONS

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Non-daily operations create fractional weekly service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. If a flight operated 5 days out of 7, it would show 0.8 flights.

WHY ARE THERE WEIRD FREQUENCIES IN FAR AWAY MONTHS FOR LCCs?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. Their schedules may also end mid-month. If B6 loads their schedule until Jan15, all flights in Janaury will show half frequency because of the way the report is created.

WHY IS A WHOLE AIRLINE'S SCHEDULE SHOWN AS CHANGING FOR A FUTURE MONTH?
Similarly to the previous question, some airlines load their schedule from nothing inside the 9 month window of this report. When their schedule is extended it will show as new service because there was no previous schedule to compare to. In some instances I will show a more valid comparison against another period.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE PINNACLE
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THE FREQUENCY DOESN'T SHOW A CHANGE, E.G. 4>4
This happens as a result of rounding. There is a change in service that is large enough to be listed, but through rounding it does not appear.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

NOTE: It appears that something changed recently and now we are seeing flights that are not available for sale such as scheduled charters. It does not appear there is any way to detect them as of now. They will now appear when they change.

3M ATL-LWB JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0.1>1.0 FEB 0>1.0
3M ATL-MCN JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9 NOV 0>0.9 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0.1>0.9 FEB 0>0.9
3M ATL-MEI JUL 0>1.7 AUG 0>1.7 SEP 0>1.7 OCT 0>1.7 NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0.1>1.7 FEB 0>1.7
3M ATL-MSL JUL 0>1.7 AUG 0>1.7 SEP 0>1.7 OCT 0>1.7 NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0.1>1.7 FEB 0>1.7
3M ATL-PIB JUL 0>1.7 AUG 0>1.7 SEP 0>1.7 OCT 0>1.7 NOV 0>1.7 DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0.1>1.7 FEB 0>1.7
3M ATL-TUP JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0.2>3 FEB 0>3
3M EYW-FLL JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0.1>3 FEB 0>3
3M EYW-RSW JUL 0>2.0 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>1.8 OCT 0>1.7 NOV 0>2 DEC 0>2 JAN 0.1>2 FEB 0>2
3M EYW-TPA JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>1.4 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0.2>4 FEB 0>4
3M FLL-BIM JUL 0>1.7 AUG 0>1.4 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.4 NOV 0>0.6 DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0.1>1.0 FEB 0>1.0
3M FLL-ELH JUL 0>1.5 AUG 0>1.4 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.7 NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.2 JAN 0.1>1.6 FEB 0>1.7
3M FLL-FPO JUL 0>2 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>1.8 OCT 0>1.8 NOV 0>2 DEC 0>1.9 JAN 0.1>1.9 FEB 0>2
3M FLL-GGT JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>0.7 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.4 NOV 0>0.7 DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0.1>1.2 FEB 0>1.1
3M FLL-GHB JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3 NOV 0>0.5 DEC 0>0.6 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7
3M FLL-MCO JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0.2>3 FEB 0>3
3M FLL-MHH JUL 0>3 AUG 0>1.4 SEP 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.9 NOV 0>1.2 DEC 0>1.3 JAN 0.1>2 FEB 0>2
3M FLL-TCB JUL 0>1.4 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.5 NOV 0>0.6 DEC 0>0.9 JAN 0.1>1.4 FEB 0>1.4
3M FLL-TPA JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0.2>3 FEB 0>3
3M GLH-TUP JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0.2>3 FEB 0>3
3M GNV-MCO JUL 0>1.1 AUG 0>1.1 SEP 0>1.2 OCT 0>1.2 NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0.1>1.0 FEB 0>1.0
3M GNV-TPA JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0.2>3 FEB 0>3
3M JAX-MHH JUL 0>0.1 AUG 0>0.2
3M JAX-TPA JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0.2>3 FEB 0>3
3M MCN-MCO JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9 NOV 0>0.9 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0.1>0.9 FEB 0>0.9
3M MCO-MHH JUL 0>1.2 AUG 0>0.7 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.5 NOV 0>0.8 DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0.1>1.1 FEB 0>1.0
3M MCO-PNS JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0.2>3 FEB 0>3
3M MCO-RSW JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0.1>1.0 FEB 0>1.0
3M PBI-MHH JUL 0>1.1 AUG 0>0.7 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.4 NOV 0>0.6 DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0.1>1.0 FEB 0>1.0
3M PBI-TPA JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0.2>3 FEB 0>3
3M PNS-TPA JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0.2>3 FEB 0>3
3M TLH-TPA JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>1.6 JAN 0.2>3 FEB 0>3

5V EAA-FAI JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 SEP 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 NOV 0>0.7 DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7

AA DFW-BMI DEC 1.0>2 JAN 1.0>2 FEB 1.0>2
AA LAX-SJD SEP 1.3>1.1

AB JFK-DUS NOV 0.6>1.0 DEC 0.6>1.0 JAN 0.6>0.8 FEB 0.6>0.8
AB JFK-TXL NOV 0.4>0.7 DEC 0.4>0.7 JAN 0.4>0.7 FEB 0.4>0.7
AB MIA-DUS NOV 0.9>1.0 DEC 0.8>1.0 JAN 0.9>1.0 FEB 0.9>1.0
AB ORD-TXL NOV 0.4>0.5 DEC 0.5>0.6 JAN 0.4>0.5 FEB 0.4>0.6
AB RSW-DUS NOV 0.4>0.6 DEC 0.4>0.6 JAN 0.3>0.5 FEB 0.3>0.5

AF JFK-CDG NOV 4>5 DEC 4>5

AS OME-OTZ NOV 0.9>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0

AZ JFK-MXP NOV 0.9>1.0 DEC 0.9>1.0

BW JFK-GEO JUL 0.5>0.7 AUG 0.6>0.7
BW JFK-POS AUG 3>4
BW MCO-POS JUL 0.3>0.4 AUG 0.3>0.4

CI LAX-TPE SEP 2>1.8

DL LGA-BTV OCT 3>4 NOV 3>4
DL LGA-IAH OCT 3>4
DL LGA-JAX OCT 3>4 NOV 3>4
the last gasp   
DL MEM-AUS SEP 3>0.8 OCT 3>0.9 NOV 3>0.8 DEC 3>0.9 JAN 3>0.9 FEB 3>0.9
DL MEM-BNA SEP 1.6>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.9 NOV 1.7>0.8 DEC 1.7>0.9 JAN 1.7>0.9 FEB 1.7>0.9
*DL MEM-BTR SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.8>0 DEC 0.9>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
DL MEM-CMH SEP 1.5>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.9 NOV 1.7>0.8 DEC 1.7>0.9 JAN 1.7>0.9 FEB 1.7>0.9
DL MEM-DCA SEP 3>1.6 OCT 3>1.7 NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7 JAN 3>1.7 FEB 3>1.7
DL MEM-DFW SEP 3>1.6 OCT 3>1.7 NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7 JAN 3>1.7 FEB 3>1.7
*DL MEM-FLL SEP 0.9>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.4>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 0.9>0
DL MEM-IAH SEP 3>1.6 OCT 3>1.7 NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7 JAN 3>1.7 FEB 3>1.7
DL MEM-IND SEP 3>1.6 OCT 3>1.7 NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7 JAN 3>1.7 FEB 3>1.7
*DL MEM-JAN SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.8>0 DEC 0.9>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
*DL MEM-LIT SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.8>0 DEC 0.9>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
DL MEM-MCI SEP 1.6>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.9 NOV 1.7>0.8 DEC 1.7>0.9 JAN 1.7>0.9 FEB 1.7>0.9
DL MEM-MCO SEP 3>1.0 OCT 3>1.0 NOV 3>1.0 DEC 3>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
DL MEM-MKE SEP 1.6>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.9 NOV 1.7>0.8 DEC 1.7>0.9 JAN 1.7>0.9 FEB 1.7>0.9
*DL MEM-OKC SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.8>0 DEC 0.9>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
*DL MEM-OMA SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
*DL MEM-PHX SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.8>0 DEC 0.9>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
DL MEM-SAT SEP 1.6>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.9 NOV 1.7>0.8 DEC 1.7>0.9 JAN 1.7>0.9 FEB 1.7>0.9
DL MEM-SDF SEP 1.6>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.9 NOV 1.7>0.8 DEC 1.7>0.9 JAN 1.7>0.9 FEB 1.7>0.9
*DL MEM-SHV SEP 1.6>0 OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.7>0 DEC 0.9>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
*DL MEM-STL SEP 1.6>0 OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.7>0 DEC 1.7>0 JAN 1.7>0 FEB 1.7>0
*DL MEM-TUL SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.8>0 DEC 0.9>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
*DL MEM-TYS SEP 1.6>0 OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.7>0 DEC 1.7>0 JAN 1.7>0 FEB 1.7>0
*DL MEM-XNA SEP 1.6>0 OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.7>0 DEC 1.5>0 JAN 1.6>0 FEB 1.7>0
strange route
*DL PHL-RDU SEP 0>4 OCT 0>4 NOV 0>4 DEC 0>4 JAN 0>4 FEB 0>4
DL SEA-KIX OCT 0.9>0.7
DL SEA-PEK NOV 1.0>0.6 DEC 1.0>0.5 JAN 1.0>0.6 FEB 1.0>0.6
DL SEA-PVG NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 1.0>0.7 JAN 1.0>0.7 FEB 1.0>0.7
DL SLC-BUR FEB 2>3

FL MCO-DCA AUG 1.0>0.4 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0

G7 LGA-STL JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0

HA HNL-LIH OCT 18>16
HA HNL-OGG OCT 28>27

JJ JFK-GRU SEP 1.0>1.2 OCT 1.0>1.5 FEB 1.0>1.3

LH PHL-FRA NOV 0.7>1.0 DEC 0.6>0.8 FEB 0.7>0.8

LO JFK-WAW NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 0.9>0.6 JAN 1.0>0.6 FEB 1.0>0.6
LO ORD-WAW NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 0.9>0.6 JAN 1.0>0.7 FEB 1.0>0.6

interesting this is continuing
SY DCA-LAN SEP 0>0.9 OCT 0>0.9 NOV 0>0.8 DEC 0>0.9
SY DCA-MSP SEP 0>0.9 OCT 0>0.9 NOV 0>0.8 DEC 0>0.9
SY MSP-PHX DEC 0.0>0.9
SY MSP-RSW DEC 0.0>1.4

UA CLE-CLT JUL 4>3
UA CLE-FLL NOV 1.0>1.9
UA CLE-MHT NOV 1.7>3
UA CLE-PVD NOV 1.7>3
UA CLE-RSW DEC 1.0>1.7
UA DEN-BOS NOV 3>4
UA DEN-CUN DEC 0.5>0.7
UA DEN-DRO NOV 7>6
UA DEN-EGE NOV 1.7>1.0
UA DEN-HDN NOV 2>1.1
UA DEN-MFR NOV 1.7>1.1
UA DEN-PDX NOV 4>5
UA DEN-PHX NOV 4>5
UA DEN-PSP NOV 3>4
UA DEN-RAP NOV 7>6
UA DEN-TUL NOV 4>5
UA DEN-YYZ NOV 3>1.9
UA EWR-ARN NOV 0.6>0.8 DEC 0.5>0.6
UA EWR-BCN NOV 0.6>0.8 DEC 0.4>0.5 FEB 0.6>0.7
UA EWR-BHX FEB 0.9>0.7
UA EWR-BON DEC 0.1>0.3
UA EWR-BZE DEC 0.1>0.3
UA EWR-CDG NOV 1.7>1.9 DEC 1.5>1.7
UA EWR-EDI FEB 1.0>0.9
UA EWR-GUA DEC 0.2>0.3
UA EWR-GVA DEC 0.6>0.8
UA EWR-HAM DEC 0.4>0.5
UA EWR-LIS NOV 0.6>0.8 DEC 0.5>0.7 FEB 0.7>0.6
UA EWR-MAD NOV 0.7>0.8 DEC 0.6>0.7 JAN 0.6>0.5
UA EWR-NAS DEC 1.0>1.2
UA EWR-OSL DEC 0.7>0.9 FEB 0.9>1.0
UA EWR-PLS DEC 0.7>0.9
UA EWR-SAL DEC 0.2>0.3
UA EWR-SAP DEC 0.1>0.3
UA EWR-SNN JAN 1.0>0.9 FEB 1.0>0.9
UA EWR-TXL NOV 0.6>0.8
UA EWR-ZRH NOV 0.9>0.8 JAN 1.0>0.9 FEB 1.0>0.9
all recoded to 3M
UA EYW-FLL JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0 NOV 1.4>0 DEC 1.2>0
UA EYW-RSW JUL 2.0>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.8>0 OCT 1.7>0
UA EYW-TPA JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0 SEP 1.4>0 OCT 3>0 NOV 0.8>0 DEC 0.8>0
UA FLL-BIM JUL 1.7>0 AUG 1.4>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0 NOV 0.6>0 DEC 0.4>0
UA FLL-ELH JUL 1.5>0 AUG 1.4>0 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.7>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 0.6>0 FEB 0.7>0
UA FLL-FPO JUL 3>0.0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.8>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.1>0 DEC 0.9>0
UA FLL-GGT JUL 0.8>0 AUG 0.7>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.4>0 NOV 0.7>0 DEC 0.7>0 JAN 0.5>0 FEB 0.4>0
UA FLL-GHB JUL 0.7>0 AUG 0.4>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0 NOV 0.5>0 DEC 0.6>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.7>0
UA FLL-MCO JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0 NOV 1.7>0 DEC 1.5>0
UA FLL-MHH JUL 3>0 AUG 1.4>0 SEP 0.7>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 1.2>0 DEC 1.2>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0
UA FLL-TCB JUL 1.4>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.5>0 NOV 0.6>0 DEC 0.6>0 JAN 0.4>0 FEB 0.4>0
UA FLL-TPA JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0 NOV 3>0 DEC 3>0
UA GNV-MCO JUL 1.1>0 AUG 1.1>0 SEP 1.2>0 OCT 1.2>0
UA GNV-TPA JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0 NOV 1.3>0 DEC 1.2>0
UA IAD-BTV NOV 3>2
UA IAD-CAE NOV 4>3
UA IAD-GSP JUL 3>2.0
UA IAD-MIA NOV 1.9>1.2
UA IAD-PUJ DEC 0.1>0.3
UA IAD-SAV NOV 3>4
UA IAD-ZRH JAN 1.0>0.9 FEB 1.0>0.9
UA IAH-BON DEC 0.1>0.3
UA IAH-BZE DEC 1.8>3
UA IAH-DEN NOV 11>12
UA IAH-FRA DEC 0.8>1.0
UA IAH-GCM DEC 0.7>0.8
UA IAH-LFT JUL 9>8
UA IAH-MCI OCT 9>8
UA IAH-PBI JUL 1.9>1.1
UA IAH-POS DEC 1.0>1.2
UA IAH-RTB DEC 0.5>0.7
UA IAH-SAP DEC 1.0>1.2
UA JAX-MHH JUL 0.1>0 AUG 0.2>0
UA JAX-TPA JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0
UA LAX-CUN DEC 0.6>0.8
UA LAX-SAN OCT 13>12
UA MCO-MHH JUL 1.2>0 AUG 0.7>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.5>0 NOV 0.8>0 DEC 0.7>0 JAN 0.6>0 FEB 0.3>0
UA MCO-PNS JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0 NOV 1.0>0
UA MCO-RSW JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
UA ORD-AMS NOV 0.8>0.9
UA ORD-BRU JAN 1.0>0.7 FEB 1.0>0.7
UA ORD-BZN JAN 0>1.2 FEB 0>1.5
UA ORD-CDG DEC 0.7>0.9
UA ORD-FRA FEB 2>1.9
UA ORD-JAC JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0
UA ORD-LIR DEC 0.1>0.2
UA ORD-LIT JUL 4>3
UA ORD-MSN OCT 8>9
UA ORD-MSY OCT 3>4
UA ORD-MUC NOV 0.7>0.8 JAN 0.9>0.7 FEB 0.9>0.6
UA ORD-ORF OCT 5>4
UA ORD-PUJ DEC 0.1>0.3
UA ORD-RAP OCT 2>1.0
UA ORD-ROC OCT 6>5
UA ORD-STL OCT 10>9
UA ORD-YVR DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3
UA PBI-MHH JUL 1.1>0 AUG 0.7>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.4>0 NOV 0.6>0 DEC 0.4>0
UA PBI-TPA JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0 NOV 3>0 DEC 3>0
UA PNS-TPA JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0 NOV 1.7>0
UA SFO-CDG DEC 0.7>0.9
UA SFO-DEN NOV 9>10
UA SFO-FRA FEB 1.0>0.9
UA TLH-TPA JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0 NOV 3>0 DEC 1.6>0

US CLT-AVL SEP 9>8
US CLT-BGI FEB 0>0.1
US CLT-CUN SEP 1.6>1.8
US CLT-MEX SEP 0.9>0.7 OCT 0.9>0.7
US CLT-MHT SEP 1.6>1.0
US CLT-MYR SEP 9>8
US CLT-PHF SEP 7>6
US CLT-ROA SEP 9>8
US CLT-SDF SEP 8>7
US CLT-SJU OCT 1.4>0.9
US CLT-TYS SEP 9>8
US DCA-EYW JAN 0.1>1.0 FEB 0.1>1.0
US DCA-GSP SEP 1.8>3
US DCA-ORF SEP 5>6
US PHL-ALB SEP 7>6
US PHL-AVP SEP 6>5
US PHL-BDL SEP 8>7
US PHL-ELM SEP 4>3
US PHL-ERI SEP 4>3
US PHL-EWR SEP 6>7
US PHL-PHF SEP 6>4
US PHL-ROC SEP 6>5
US PHL-SYR SEP 7>6
US PHX-FLL SEP 1.0>0.6
US PHX-SNA SEP 6>5

VB IAH-MTY SEP 0.6>0.5 OCT 0.5>0.4 NOV 0.6>0.4 DEC 0.6>0.4 JAN 0.6>0.5 FEB 0.6>0.4
VB SAT-MTY SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3 DEC 0.4>0.3 JAN 0.4>0.3 FEB 0.4>0.3

VS MCO-LGW NOV 1.6>1.5 DEC 1.6>1.5 JAN 1.6>1.2 FEB 1.6>1.3
VS MCO-MAN JAN 1.2>1.0 FEB 1.1>1.0

WN BKG-MDW DEC 2>1.5 
WN DCA-HOU SEP 1.0>2 OCT 1.0>2 NOV 1.0>2 DEC 1.0>2

ZK DEN-DIK JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 2>1.0 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 2>1.0
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enilria
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:25 pm

ZK DEN-DIK JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 2>1.0 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 2>1.0
ZK DEN-ISN JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0
ZK DIK-ISN JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 2>1.0 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 2>1.0
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:28 pm

As always, thanks for the information. Great insight. I always look forward too this thread.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:41 pm

I am going to take a wild guess and say the PHL reductions on US are to allow ZW to pull planes from service to get painted in AA colors.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:45 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL SEA-KIX OCT 0.9>0.7
DL SEA-PEK NOV 1.0>0.6 DEC 1.0>0.5 JAN 1.0>0.6 FEB 1.0>0.6
DL SEA-PVG NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 1.0>0.7 JAN 1.0>0.7 FEB 1.0>0.7

SEA slow down period i guess?
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:46 pm

Quoting apodino (Reply 3):
I am going to take a wild guess and say the PHL reductions on US are to allow ZW to pull planes from service to get painted in AA colors.

And/Or due to the expected Piedmont aircraft retirements and potential hull loss in Newark.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:04 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA LAX-SAN OCT 13>12

Trust me.

With three different airlines flying the 110 mile route, no one will notice the change.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:05 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA IAH-BZE DEC 1.8>3
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA EWR-BZE DEC 0.1>0.3

UA showing BZE some love!
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:12 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
strange route
*DL PHL-RDU SEP 0>4 OCT 0>4 NOV 0>4 DEC 0>4 JAN 0>4 FEB 0>4

Strange indeed, both AA (Eagle) and WN have tried this route and subsequently cancelled it.

Also note that PHL-MEM remains status quo for now.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:17 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
US DCA-EYW JAN 0.1>1.0 FEB 0.1>1.0

Neat!

Some congressional aids just became very happy.

And the $370 each-way fare should keep the E170 from overbooking too badly.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:54 pm

I wonder when we will start to see some AA/US route rejigging? Like to the the Caribbean.
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:56 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 6):
With three different airlines flying the 110 mile route, no one will notice the change.

Yeah, and aren't they all SkyWest under UA AA and DL brand?? Nothing like competeing with oneself lol. I bet OO is happy as a clam.....
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:51 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
WN DCA-HOU SEP 1.0>2 OCT 1.0>2 NOV 1.0>2 DEC 1.0>2

Maybe I missed the thread but did WN find another slot for the new DC-Hobby route? IIRC it was for one RT a day.
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:54 pm

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 12):

They ended one of an AirTran flights for the extra HOU flight. Correct me if I'm wrong though
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:16 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA IAH-POS DEC 1.0>1.2

Wow now that is intresting. First time ever flying two flights a day to POS from IAH. They must be making a killing. On the date I check. First Class is sold out on both flight already!!!
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:29 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA ORD-MSY OCT 3>4

That's a small but nice add considering UA has not had 4 flights a day in that market since 2005.

UA's October schedule will be the biggest it's ever been...up to 28 flights depending on the day of the week.

12X IAH
4X ORD
4X EWR
3X IAD
2X DEN
1X CLE
1X LAX
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:30 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
strange route
*DL PHL-RDU SEP 0>4 OCT 0>4 NOV 0>4 DEC 0>4 JAN 0>4 FEB 0>4

Yeah i mean i guess they have some extra CRJ-200s and willing to give it a shot. They know frequency matters so its a legitimate try at 4x. Lets see. Definitely an unusual ad thats for sure but it might be a place to use some CRJ-200s and also remain competative in the RDU market.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:12 pm

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 12):
Maybe I missed the thread but did WN find another slot for the new DC-Hobby route? IIRC it was for one RT a day.

There is a very long thread on it already.  

But the cliff notes...

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
FL MCO-DCA AUG 1.0>0.4 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:34 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL PHL-RDU SEP 0>4 OCT 0>4 NOV 0>4 DEC 0>4 JAN 0>4 FEB 0>4
Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 16):
Yeah i mean i guess they have some extra CRJ-200s and willing to give it a shot

My guess is along with the once daily flights from MEM is that DL has 50 seaters that are still on lease and no where to put them. When the leases are up, MEM will be shut down to hub only and the odd ball flights like PHL-RDU will be gone.

Though youd think that ATL-SPI/CMI/COU/AZO/LAN/MBS woudl be better places for 5 0seaters than MEM or P2Ps. I guess though if it is temporary, you dont want to open any new stations or start flights people will miss like AZO-ATL once they, the 50 seaters are gone.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:46 pm

Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 2):

Thanks!

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 4):

I did notice that. Too much new SEA transpacific too fast I bet.

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 8):

Considering DL is weak in both markets, it is perplexing.

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 9):

That is a pretty cool daily route. Weight restricted I wonder?

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 16):

Assuming the plane basically comes from MEM it is a pretty sad commentary on how awful MEM was to choose this as a better choice. At least they were in a strong market position in MEM.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:58 am

Oh dear Lawd.. Let me come up here and postulate another thought instead of everyone just assuming that surplus planes go to RDU to die...

Delta is pulling 30 flights from MEM... Basically bring it from 90 to 60ish.. Right? So let's think what Delta could have did with the plane....

1. Put it in RDU and start a new route..
2. Put it at a hub and start some additional frequencies for the cities that lost MEM service..
3. Put it in a hub and start new routes
4. Put it in a different out station and start P2P routes...
5. Put it in VCV and let the sucker rust until lease is up...

Which would have made everyone on A.net happy? Probably 2 or 3...

What would have made the most money? Honestly, none of us know..

What did Delta do? Number 1.. So evidently Delta thought it would strengthen its RDU operation with a destination to one of its Top 10 business market and slowly build DL as an even bigger player for RDU business traffic? Why? Because RDU is one of those few truly 50/50 markets where business travel and leisure travel equals out... And heaven forbid if Delta wants to make sure it's capturing as much traffic as it can...

And I know some say "if it ain't mainline, it ain't staying"... Well, that may be the case, but it's best to try in a station where you have a huge loyal base, than in an out station where your as known or less... Delta could have easily put the planes flying to MCO and FLL and been okay, but those experiments are cyclic and right now this ain't the upswing (I'm almost positive it will be in the future)..

I wonder what they will do when the 717 comes along.. Would RDU see some on these routes? Who knows.. But I can ponder..

But, my point is this.. Yes, they added RDU service, yes it's 50 sweaters, and no.. It's not dart boarding or temporary insanity.. All the flights added to RDU have been business markets.. BDL, CMH, PHL, LAX, SLC, TPA.. All business markets... And yes, RDU does have a lot of business travelers passing through and the amount is only expected to rise...

And with that, I digress....
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:03 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 15):
That's a small but nice add considering UA has not had 4 flights a day in that market since 2005.

Well technically UA has never had 4x IAH-MSY flights. CO OTOH lol.......  
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:45 am

Quoting CO777DAL (Reply 14):
First Class is sold out on both flight already!!!

Not usuals for J to be sold out on this flight. It is next to impossible to get an upgrade as it is usually all paid up front. Got to love the oil business
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:49 am

Quoting enilria (Reply 19):
Considering DL is weak in both markets, it is perplexing.

How is DL weak at RDU? It's one of DL's largest outstations with significant P2P service. I don't have the data, but I think DL might be the largest legacy at RDU now. Even if AA is still larger, DL is by no means weak in the market.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:06 am

Quoting HVNandrew (Reply 23):
How is DL weak at RDU? It's one of DL's largest outstations with significant P2P service. I don't have the data, but I think DL might be the largest legacy at RDU now. Even if AA is still larger, DL is by no means weak in the market.

DL is a healthy #2 at RDU, behind only Southwest/Airtran. They will be #3 behind WN/FL and AA/US when that merger is complete.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:32 am

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 18):

My guess is along with the once daily flights from MEM is that DL has 50 seaters that are still on lease and no where to put them. When the leases are up, MEM will be shut down to hub only and the odd ball

except DL will be removing CRJs.

This is the last ditch effort to make MEM profitable. If not, Hubs plus DCA,MCO,BOS,LAX will stay.
Had this been anything like you think it is, Delta would have dumped MEM and added frequency at hub markets. MEM isn't getting Dallased just yet.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-AUS SEP 3>0.8 OCT 3>0.9 NOV 3>0.8 DEC 3>0.9 JAN 3>0.9 FEB 3>0.9

OO CRJ

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-BNA SEP 1.6>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.9 NOV 1.7>0.8 DEC 1.7>0.9 JAN 1.7>0.9 FEB 1.7>0.9

OO CRJ

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-CMH SEP 1.5>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.9 NOV 1.7>0.8 DEC 1.7>0.9 JAN 1.7>0.9 FEB 1.7>0.9

RP ERJ

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-DCA SEP 3>1.6 OCT 3>1.7 NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7 JAN 3>1.7 FEB 3>1.7

2x 9E CR9

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-DFW SEP 3>1.6 OCT 3>1.7 NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7 JAN 3>1.7 FEB 3>1.7

1x OO CRJ 1x 9E CRJ

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-IAH SEP 3>1.6 OCT 3>1.7 NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7 JAN 3>1.7 FEB 3>1.7

2x 9E CRJ

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-IND SEP 3>1.6 OCT 3>1.7 NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7 JAN 3>1.7 FEB 3>1.7

1x RP ERJ 1x 9E CRJ

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-MCI SEP 1.6>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.9 NOV 1.7>0.8 DEC 1.7>0.9 JAN 1.7>0.9 FEB 1.7>0.9

OO CRJ

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-MCO SEP 3>1.0 OCT 3>1.0 NOV 3>1.0 DEC 3>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0

DL 320

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-MKE SEP 1.6>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.9 NOV 1.7>0.8 DEC 1.7>0.9 JAN 1.7>0.9 FEB 1.7>0.9

OO CRJ

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-SAT SEP 1.6>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.9 NOV 1.7>0.8 DEC 1.7>0.9 JAN 1.7>0.9 FEB 1.7>0.9

9E CRJ

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL MEM-SDF SEP 1.6>0.8 OCT 1.7>0.9 NOV 1.7>0.8 DEC 1.7>0.9 JAN 1.7>0.9 FEB 1.7>0.9

RP ERJ
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:40 am

Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 25):
This is the last ditch effort to make MEM profitable

Not sure how they can expect a profit with those once daily CRJ's to many destinations without feed. All of those flights are as good as gone at some point. They can't expect the local market to fill a daily CRJ to BNA...CMH...SDF...MKE...etc. This is the continuing saga of death by a thousand cuts. MEM will be down to about 30 flights a day more or less by this time next year. Sad, but it's the nature of the beast.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:42 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 20):
1. Put it in RDU and start a new route..
2. Put it at a hub and start some additional frequencies for the cities that lost MEM service..
3. Put it in a hub and start new routes
4. Put it in a different out station and start P2P routes...
5. Put it in VCV and let the sucker rust until lease is up...

Which would have made everyone on A.net happy? Probably 2 or 3...

Can I insert option 6?
Option 6: Rename the CR2 "Skeet," build a massive sling shot, and shoot the thing out of the sky with a cannon...  

In all seriousness, tho, not sure what sense if any PHL-RDU would make, as some have indicated on here...
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:51 am

Quoting silentbob (Reply 5):
And/Or due to the expected Piedmont aircraft retirements and potential hull loss in Newark.

We are tight on aircraft right now at Express due to Chautauqua leaving after US did not renew their contract for the 9 ERJ-145's. PSA, ZW, & EN picked up those flights and with the Dash-8's coming to the end of their life their is basically no room for extra flights that are not needed. Once the merger is official and we know who is going to be flying the regional flights for AA we can get a better look on the future scheduling as to any addition or subtraction of more flying.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:00 am

Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 24):
DL is a healthy #2 at RDU, behind only Southwest/Airtran. They will be #3 behind WN/FL and AA/US when that merger is complete.

DL actually just recently overtook WN/FL as the largest carrier at RDU.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 27):
In all seriousness, tho, not sure what sense if any PHL-RDU would make, as some have indicated on here...

With WN pulling out of the route its left some room in the market. It is a top ten business market for RDU and DL is trying to win over many business travelers at RDU. Also remember the AA/US merger is set to close 3Q. Its beefing up competition in a market DL believes is theirs. Its a smart move. With the addition of PHL I think it puts RDU over the 60 flights a day mark. Pretty impressive....all in all just my two cents.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:19 am

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 8):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
strange route
*DL PHL-RDU SEP 0>4 OCT 0>4 NOV 0>4 DEC 0>4 JAN 0>4 FEB 0>4

Strange indeed, both AA (Eagle) and WN have tried this route and subsequently cancelled it.

Also note that PHL-MEM remains status quo for now.

Well, they've hung onto RDU-BWI for a while now, even against strong competition from WN. WN recently left PHL-RDU, so maybe there's some room. Also, perhaps DL got a piece of a contract with a pharmaceutical company or something like that. Both Philly and the Research Triangle do a lot of business in that area.

Quoting enilria (Reply 19):
Considering DL is weak in both markets, it is perplexing.

DL's not weak in RDU... I think they're actually ahead of AA there nowadays, with more than 50 flights and something like 17 or 18 destinations. PHL is an average to slightly-above-average station for them (they do have the summer-only PHL-CDG flight, otherwise just hubs + now RDU).
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:00 am

Quoting crj900lr (Reply 28):
Once the merger is official and we know who is going to be flying the regional flights for AA we can get a better look on the future scheduling as to any addition or subtraction of more flying.

with staffing problems at all of those regionals, it will be interesting to see what happens once the deal is approved. I don't think it will take long to find out.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:54 am

Quoting cessna2 (Reply 29):
I think it puts RDU over the 60 flights a day mark. Pretty impressive....all in all just my two cents.

They'll either be at 56 flights or 58 don't remember.
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:36 am

Quoting cessna2 (Reply 29):

DL actually just recently overtook WN/FL as the largest carrier at RDU.

Yes, that's correct. I was looking only at mainline stats.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:51 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
the last gasp

To quote Howard Cosell, "Down goes Frazier."

Thank you for the report, it is always something to look forward to.  

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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:58 pm

Here's the PHL-RDU schedule

DL3971 PHL0855 – 1025RDU CRJ x67
DL3850 PHL1200 – 1330RDU CRJ x6
DL3878 PHL1535 – 1705RDU CRJ x6
DL3879 PHL1825 – 1955RDU CRJ x6

DL3971 RDU0700 – 0830PHL CRJ x67
DL3870 RDU0855 – 1225PHL CRJ x6
DL3878 RDU1340 – 1510PHL CRJ x6
DL3879 RDU1630 – 1800PHL CRJ x6

No flights on Sat. Also the first departure out of PHL and the last departure out of RDU are rather late for any business travelers
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:36 pm

If you look at the schedule, it is DEFINITELY catered to the RDU business passenger, not the PHL passenger.. Which should tell you who the flight is geared towards.. And since there are no Saturday flights, it's definitely geared towards the business traveler, not the leisure (which would just be a bonus)...
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:46 pm

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 32):
They'll either be at 56 flights or 58 don't remember.

It'll be 58 when PHL starts. I forgot to take out the extra flights for the summer travel season. It'll move up to 59 once SLC starts in December.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:49 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):

SY DCA-MSP SEP 0>0.9 OCT 0>0.9 NOV 0>0.8 DEC 0>0.9

Where are these slots coming from - any insights?
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:29 pm

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 4):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL SEA-KIX OCT 0.9>0.7
DL SEA-PEK NOV 1.0>0.6 DEC 1.0>0.5 JAN 1.0>0.6 FEB 1.0>0.6
DL SEA-PVG NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 1.0>0.7 JAN 1.0>0.7 FEB 1.0>0.7

SEA slow down period i guess?
Quoting enilria (Reply 19):
I did notice that. Too much new SEA transpacific too fast I bet.

Probably has more to do with the fact that the weather in SEA in NOV, DEC, JAN and FEB really sucks and it's a very slow travel time for traffic to SEA. I assume these are winter seasonal frequency reductions, just like the many others during Winter, and not a reflection that there is too much new SEA trans-pac.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:32 pm

DL has reduced PEK, KIX, CDG in the winter, and doesn't operate the second AMS flight in the summer. Its just a reflection of a smaller market in the winter versus the summer.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:07 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 19):
Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 4):
I did notice that. Too much new SEA transpacific too fast I bet.
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 39):

Probably has more to do with the fact that the weather in SEA in NOV, DEC, JAN and FEB really sucks and it's a very slow travel time for traffic to SEA. I assume these are winter seasonal frequency reductions, just like the many others during Winter, and not a reflection that there is too much new SEA trans-pac.

DL always pulls back capacity during the winter on West Coast - Asia routes, and every year they go less-than-daily on these non-hub flights.

They even do this on DTW flights too. Nothing really new here as where they can't go lower in equipment size, they go less than daily on certain routes.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:57 pm

Quote:
AA DFW-BMI DEC 1.0>2 JAN 1.0>2 FEB 1.0>2

YEA! This has been the missing flight for us for a while. Nice to have two flights to DFW and an early morning / late evening option. It looks like it starts October 1.

BMI has been doing ok lately, we are now 2x mainline on DL to Atlanta, Frontier seems to be doing ok (although they keep shuffling times of their DEN and MCO flights), they somehow found money to install a bunch of jetbridges. I guess we might survive without FL after all.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:05 pm

Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 25):
This is the last ditch effort to make MEM profitable. If not, Hubs plus DCA,MCO,BOS,LAX will stay.

I'm not even sure BOS will manage to stay. The new schedule has MEM-BOS departing too early (0730) to pick up any connections at MEM and BOS-MEM arrives too late (1924) to offer connections at MEM. While one would think that the O&D in the market is large enough for a CR9 -- it's about 100 PDEW -- a single daily round-trip will lose a fair number of passengers to connecting options on DL or other carriers.

All the single or 2x daily flights to non-hubs are going to fail due to schedule. There are going to be too many better schedule options via DFW/IAH/HOU.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:18 pm

Quoting cessna2 (Reply 37):
It'll be 58 when PHL starts. I forgot to take out the extra flights for the summer travel season. It'll move up to 59 once SLC starts in December.



Good to see some of use keeping an eye on DL OPS at RDU  

RDU has always held a special place with me. Glad to see DL maintaining its presence there.
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:44 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 36):
If you look at the schedule, it is DEFINITELY catered to the RDU business passenger, not the PHL passenger.. Which should tell you who the flight is geared towards..

That's fine. If WN failed with somewhat more capacity but much lower costs, how will DL succeed? The CASM of the CRJ on a route like that has got to be 15 cents or more.
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:43 am

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 35):

Well they wont get any PHL point of sale business travelers. I don't think it will survive the 50 seaters going away.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:54 am

STL-ORD on UA going down to 9 a day. Never seems to have an empty seat for UA or AA. Makes for a tough commute. Would be nice to have a few non RJs for UA.
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:37 am

Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 24):
Quoting FSDan (Reply 30):
Quoting HVNandrew (Reply 23):

In terms of point of sale/origin revenue (which is the ultimate scorecard of city market strength), AA is ahead of DL by quite a bit. In this industry you have probably noticed that in nearly every legacy route, the carrier is the #1 carrier in either the origin or the destination. The routes where that is not the case are nearly always a financial challenge. If they truly thought this route would be any good they would at let fly one flight on Sat. That's crazy and 4x is one too many for a new route like this.

Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 25):

Have to disagree. 1x in those markets has no chance of success. I agree it's a reaccom strategy. They move all existing local bookings to the one flight and later drop it.

Quoting diverdave (Reply 34):

Thanks. Wish I could hear your Cosell imitation.  
Quoting usairways85 (Reply 35):

No Saturday flight is very weird. They couldn't fly one?

Quoting SouthernDC9 (Reply 38):

No idea really, but there have been rumors since F9 took the SY Apple contract over in LAN that SY would leave. It's odd that they extended the schedule on both, but I don't think they can move the LAN slot to MSP as they wish. I wonder if it's a Freudian slip. Perhaps they were toying with a schedule where LAN is dropped and misfiled it. Is there a press release on the MSP?
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/14/2013:DL/UA/US

Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:53 am

Quoting ExpressJet_ERJ (Reply 47):
STL-ORD on UA going down to 9 a day. Never seems to have an empty seat for UA or AA. Makes for a tough commute. Would be nice to have a few non RJs for UA.

More than anything else, AX and G7 positioning needs drive UA's STL-ORD/IAD/DEN schedule.
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