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Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:43 pm

First it thought it was a joke but these words are coming from an Air Zimbabwe's spokesman:

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Air Zimbabwe has announced that it plans to take on an A380-800 as part of its long-haul fleet, in time for the resumption of Harare Int'l to London Gatwick flights in July. According to a report in Zimbabwe's Financial Gazette, Air Zimbabwe spokesman, Shingai Taruvinga, said a deal for a new A380 was underway, but could not disclose the identity of the owner, rumoured to be France-based. However, industry specialists have poured scorn on the move given that Harare International Airport has not the infrastructure to handle such an enormous aircraft. The Zimbabwean carrier was linked to two other high-profile deals in the past. The first, a planned deal with Ilyushin Design Bureau (Moscow Zhukovsky) for three Il-96s in 2008 and the second, for two A340-500s in 2011, neither of which ever came to fruition.

If true (which I doubt), I wonder where they could get an A380 so fast?

Story here:
http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...3-air-zimbabwe-gung-ho-on-the-a380
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:03 pm

Hilarious!

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):
I wonder where they could get an A380 so fast?

They have probably seen a Revell kit on eBay.


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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:08 pm

This article has more details:

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AirZim has not revealed from whom it is leasing this plane, but industry players speculate that this is also from a France-based airline.
http://www.financialgazette.co.zw/?p=43481

This leaves two options:

> They lease MSN002 from Airbus.
> Or they lease an A380 from AF.

Again: if true  
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:08 pm

I think the report is correct. You just have to deduct 40 from all numbers > 300  
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:09 pm

They would need the A380's freights ability to carry enough Zim. Dollars to pay for it.

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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:09 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):
The Zimbabwean carrier was linked to two other high-profile deals in the past. The first, a planned deal with Ilyushin Design Bureau (Moscow Zhukovsky) for three Il-96s in 2008 and the second, for two A340-500s in 2011, neither of which ever came to fruition.

So its safe to say that this "deal" is as real as the tooth fairy? They have a total of 4 planes, one of which is stored and they want to get a hold of an A380?  
 
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Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:16 pm

I wonder if it's part of an election strategy. Whatever happened to the Air Austral order for '380s?

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Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:17 pm

They would have to wet lease it, wouldn't they? I don't think 6 weeks would be enough time to train the crews required.
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:42 pm

Quoting davescj (Reply 4):
They would need the A380's freights ability to carry enough Zim. Dollars to pay for it.

Zimbabwe has been using US Dollars for a while now, I'd know, I was there last year and also in January of this year.


This seems a little rediculous, however, Zimbabwe as a country is starting to pick up again. Harare is bustling, there's food on the shelves, new restaurants are popping up everywhere, people are still as happy and friendly as ever. It's great news for my family, as we love to go to Zimbabwe for holidays. Honestly still one of the best destinations for a holiday, period.

So, although an A380 seems a little rediculous, it seems as if Air Zimbabwe might become a Phoenix, reborn from its ashes.
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Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:59 pm

Quoting scarebus03 (Reply 6):
Whatever happened to the Air Austral order for '380s?

Airbus is still showing the order for 2 A380s on the latest orders/deliveries spreadsheet. Speculation last year seemed to indicate that they were likely to be cancelled but can't find anything official.
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:06 pm

Maybe it's meant to be a presidential transport for Robert Mugabe?
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:11 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):
First it thought it was a joke but these words are coming from an Air Zimbabwe's spokesman:

It could still be a joke.

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 3):
I think the report is correct. You just have to deduct 40 from all numbers > 300

or this.
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:14 pm

Is Airbus THAT desperate for A380 sales?!
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:20 pm

Due to their famous inflation levels, what is discussed as an 'A380' in Zim is actually a used A320 in all Y config, with no engines, and in NK livery.
 
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Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:46 pm

Jokes aside, once they abandoned the local currency, inflation has come under control, I think.
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:05 pm

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...j320neo-launch-says-airbus-386084/

Read the last sentance or two of this article.......

however MSN002 can't just be flown off now, it's got no engines and hasn't flown for a number of years - would be cheap though if someone wanted to buy it!
 
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Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:21 pm

Seriously, I had to check my computer for the date in case I was having a senior moment and it was April. The first.

They can't afford a B735. There is no way they could afford the associated costs with an entirely new massive aircraft. If SA can't afford or need them, why would UM?
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:11 am

Quoting DexSwart (Reply 8):
This seems a little rediculous, however, Zimbabwe as a country is starting to pick up again. Harare is bustling, there's food on the shelves, new restaurants are popping up everywhere, people are still as happy and friendly as ever. It's great news for my family, as we love to go to Zimbabwe for holidays. Honestly still one of the best destinations for a holiday, period.

Indeed, that is great news. I have never been but hope to change that soon.
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:42 am

Quoting davescj (Reply 4):

They would need the A380's freights ability to carry enough Zim. Dollars to pay for it.

  
 
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Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:53 am

Does HRE even have the infrastructure to accommodate an A380? What are they thinking?
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:04 am

Quoting DexSwart (Reply 8):
So, although an A380 seems a little rediculous, it seems as if Air Zimbabwe might become a Phoenix, reborn from its ashes.

What Zimbabwe ultimately needs is a stable, democratic, free government. Until fundamental changes come, there will simply not be enough stability for a long term airline to do well.

What happens the next time anything happens?

WHat amazes me - banks are willing to end to UM.

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Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:13 am

there is simply no way this will ever come to fruition.
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:28 am

Quoting planeguy (Reply 19):
Does HRE even have the infrastructure to accommodate an A380? What are they thinking?

They ain't!

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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:29 am

I am an enthusiast for the A380, but this makes no sense to me.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 2):
> They lease MSN002 from Airbus.
> Or they lease an A380 from AF.

Again: if true  

Those make sense as airframes.

Quoting rampbro (Reply 13):

Due to their famous inflation levels, what is discussed as an 'A380' in Zim is actually a used A320 in all Y config, with no engines, and in NK livery.

   You sure its not a used, but flying F100?

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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:38 am

If Air Zim got their hands on some new Antonov's or something rolling off a chinese production line (unlikely as even the Chinese US engines and I believe that's an issue) They'll be doing well. Believe this one when I see it.
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:35 am

If you think Air Zimbabwe can seriously take on an A380, take a look at this - Air Zimbabwe Comes To The End Of The Road - http://bit.ly/zuScfu

I covered their demise for more than a year and got hard confirmation from Airbus that squashed their repeated claims that they planned to receive two A340-500. The above story is laced with links to other stories that go into the depths of how much trouble AirZim has been in. While the airline is back, it is still barely a shell game.
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:43 am

This thread has great comedic potential.
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:08 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):
If true (which I doubt), I wonder where they could get an A380 so fast?

The money for the aircraft is found it seems.... Apparantly the finance minister is in touch via gmail with a prince in Nigeria who has some money he needs looking after...

 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:11 am

Hey, they could beat EK and become the first scheduled A380 operator at LGW!

Even though I don't believe it will ever happen, nor do I think they should, it would be fun to see!

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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:46 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 10):
Maybe it's meant to be a presidential transport for Robert Mugabe?

That was my first thought when I read the headline. Mugabe could pay this out of his pocket but why should he when he owns the state bank.

However, this won't happen, they simply don't have the infrastructure to handle, even if they base the aircraft at LGW.

BTW anyone checked the sanctions? This might be a much bigger hurdle than filthy cash.

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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:22 am

First of all they wouldn't be able to fill and A380 to LGW, also aren't there a ton of political sanctions on Zimbabwe because of Mugabe? I also know a few Zimbabweans in the UK and none of them have any desire whatsoever to even go home and visit when the situation is as it is.

I think this is all propaganda.
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Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:25 am

Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 15):
however MSN002 can't just be flown off now, it's got no engines and hasn't flown for a number of years - would be cheap though if someone wanted to buy it!

I guess that will not happen very soon. Even as mentioned in the tread I also doubt this. Maybe they can get one from EK when they have about 100 of those in there fleet for a good price!!
 
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Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:42 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 2):
> They lease MSN002 from Airbus.

If they lease it, it won't be 002...but is this no longer being the flying palace?
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Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:45 am

A6-EDA will be 5 year old in July. UM can try getting that frame?

UM can have an ambition to buy A380, so to me it is bit upsetting laughing at them or their issues in the country. They are in a mess not by choice but because of some people who run their country.
 
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Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:48 am

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 33):
UM can have an ambition to buy A380, so to me it is bit upsetting laughing at them or their issues in the country. They are in a mess not by choice but because of some people who run their country.

That is true but you haven't got a hope in hell in running an airline if you have a completely wharped business plan. Also, remember the government and Air Zimbabwe are hardly independent of each other. It's propaganda; nothing more, nothing less.
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:12 am

The whole thing appears to be complete fantasy, a struggling airline from a struggling Country states that they are going to operate the Worlds largest commercial airliner, when they don't have the infrastructure, and its a frame with a relatively small number flying, and no sign of one being available.

On the other hand when was reality ever a factor in places like Zimbabwe ? Mugabe and co will surely have enough money squirreled away somewhere to pay for one, so that's not a factor. Don't need it, case surely proven but it will be handy for those shopping trips to Harrods and Harvey Nichols. Infrastructure, once again it would only fly at best 1/3 full so no problem. Lack of aircraft availability, money as ever talks.

Its 99% certain that this is all hot air and wishful thinking, but stranger things have happened, and I'm sure Robert Mugabe would love to turn up at International conferences in his A380 whilst the leaders of far larger Countries fly scheduled. And it would even dwarf Air Force 1
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:59 am

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 35):
and I'm sure Robert Mugabe would love to turn up at International conferences in his A380 whilst the leaders of far larger Countries fly scheduled. And it would even dwarf Air Force 1

Much overcompensating for something indeed. Maybe he REALLY thinks that if he shows up at the next big wig days event. in his big shiny new plane, that those in that circle will find a new respect for him, and the lovely country of Zimbabwe.

My cousin used to pilot for UM, and if what he says is correct, then that 380 would indeed have a harder life than most 380s currently flying. Plus many last minute trips to China or where ever the shopping leads him and the Mrs.
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:54 pm

Well, the lease rate for an A380 is approx. 1.5 Mio USd per months. Certainly affordable for Air Zim...
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Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:58 pm

Quoting scarebus03 (Reply 6):
I wonder if it's part of an election strategy. Whatever happened to the Air Austral order for '380s?

Actually they ordered only one A380, S/N 129 with delivery 2014
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:58 pm

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 33):
A6-EDA will be 5 year old in July. UM can try getting that frame?

Are not most of EK's planes on lease (via sale-and-lease back)? And they seem to need every A380 they have.



Quoting RWA380 (Reply 36):
Maybe he REALLY thinks that if he shows up at the next big wig days event. in his big shiny new plane, that those in that circle will find a new respect for him, and the lovely country of Zimbabwe.

  

An A380 would reinforce his "Big Man" status amongst his peers in Africa.
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:01 pm

Well, I got it! S/N 149 is an unknown order. MUST be Air Zim...  
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:05 pm

There is a Rumour, that Air Koryo has ordered A380s too.... 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:32 pm

Maybe Mugabe needs a new private jet, and this is the only one big enough for his ego. Seriously though, a bankrupt airline from a bankrupt nation run by a crazy paranoid dictator that has run his country's economy into the ground and hates white people and especially Britain is going to start flying an A380 to London? They should get a few second hand 757/767s for the same price and try to create a realistic business plan, perhaps by providing onward connections to some of the other nearby economic disaster zones, genocide centres, warzones and rape and AIDs hotspots. If they do get them they should call their first A380 "Lunatic Dictator" and the second one "My Wallet".
 
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Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:50 pm

G'day

I guess with South Africa's Zuma trying to get hold of a 777 for his personal use this is a matter of mine is bigger than yours. One size up from a B777 is A380, arguably also the B747-8, so Mugabe has not much of a choice.   


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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:03 pm

Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 43):
this is a matter of mine is bigger than yours

He must have a pretty small one if he needs the biggest one available...  
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:06 pm

Quoting davescj (Reply 4):
They would need the A380's freights ability to carry enough Zim. Dollars to pay for it.
Quoting Stitch (Reply 10):
Maybe it's meant to be a presidential transport for Robert Mugabe?
Quoting rampbro (Reply 13):
what is discussed as an 'A380' in Zim is actually a used A320 in all Y config, with no engines
Quoting planeguy (Reply 19):
Does HRE even have the infrastructure to accommodate an A380?
Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 24):
If Air Zim got their hands on some new Antonov's or something
Quoting peterinlisbon (Reply 42):
Maybe Mugabe needs a new private jet

This does not cost as much as an A380 so it fits the bill nicely...    .

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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:35 pm

This post needs to be shut down. Cubana would be the next A380 airline if this was credible.
 
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:25 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 32):
If they lease it, it won't be 002...but is this no longer being the flying palace?

Nope, Alwaleed bin Talal has sold it. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...o-invest-in-middle-east-firms.html

Btw, the A380 just seems to be a repeat of history as far as that part of Africa is concerned. Mobutu Sese Seko used to charter an AF Concorde for his (or was it the missus?) shopping trips.
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:31 pm

Quoting DexSwart (Reply 8):
This seems a little rediculous, however, Zimbabwe as a country is starting to pick up again. Harare is bustling, there's food on the shelves, new restaurants are popping up everywhere, people are still as happy and friendly as ever. It's great news for my family, as we love to go to Zimbabwe for holidays. Honestly still one of the best destinations for a holiday, period.

Ditto my recent experiences. Honestly, I was shocked by the rate of progress. Obviously it will take years to recover, but I am immensely pleased that they have taken such huge strides. 2009 was dismal...

As for Mugabe - he is 89 and in the departure lounge. He doesn't really have much influence in the country anymore, everything has been handed over to his cronies, and in most cases, for the better.

As a side note, Air Zim have recently taken delivery of 2 x A320 (c/n 630 & 1973).
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RE: Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380

Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:15 am

Ah, now I understand. It's not for Mugabe, it's for all of his cronies that are going to take over... that's why it needs to be so big!

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