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Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:26 am

Hi to you all,

sorry if discussed before, but I couldn't find any results via the search engine.

I heard rumors, that from the end of 2013 Venezuela will ban all local registered B727/B732 & DC9 to improve safety.

Is it true? Any more information?
 
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:28 am

Isn't the DC9 like the corner-stone of Venezualan aviation?

Every Venezualan pilot I meet flies or flew the DC9
 
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:47 am

Improve safety? How?
 
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:36 am

This is not true.

Even though DC-9s are indeed being slowly retired, they will not be banned from flying in the country. Same applies for all 732s, which pretty much are the main component of airlines like Avior, Rutaca and Estelar.

This was a rumor that was later cleared. We will still be the dark sheep in South American aviation with obsolete airplanes occupying our airspace - don't worry...

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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:50 am

Quoting 797 (Reply 3):
This was a rumor that was later cleared. We will still be the dark sheep in South American aviation with obsolete airplanes occupying our airspace - don't worry...

..and from my nerdy, nostalgic point of view, long may it continue !   

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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:00 pm

They keep them flying, they just remove the toilet paper holders in the rest rooms.

Are there still active 727s?
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:16 pm

Quoting 797 (Reply 3):
all 732s, which pretty much are the main component of airlines like Avior, Rutaca and Estelar.

let's add Venezolana to the list with 8 732, the oldest one LN 512 from 1978   . Note the rumors that Venezolana is partially owned by one of the strongest goverment leaders (Diosdado) ...
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:36 pm

Avior Airlines flies some 732 from Valencia they are to Miami daily, they are the only 732 scheduled into Miami now.
 
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:04 am

From what I understand a NOTAM was issued saying that they can no longer fly these types from November 1, 2013. Whether it will be the same as other deadlines in the airline industry that will be extended and extended again is another question. Certainly Venezuelan carriers seem to be working hard to get "new" airplanes in to replace them right now.
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:01 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
Are there still active 727s?

Yes, we have 3 727 active for Cargo operating for Vensecar and DHL

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 7):
Avior Airlines flies some 732 from Valencia they are to Miami daily, they are the only 732 scheduled into Miami now.

The MIA flight operates from Barcelona and soon will be operated by the 737-400

saludos
 
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:00 pm

Probably noise abatement at the airport.
 
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:15 pm

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 9):
where Conviasa is flying their A340200 ?

Madrid and Buenos Aires

Btw, does anyone know if Conviasa's ATR-42-400 is still in storage or by chance active again?
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:49 pm

Quoting Loran (Reply 11):
Madrid and Buenos Aires

I though CONVIASA was banned from flying into Europe due to safety? are you sure they're back to MAD with their a340? wikipedia says this flight is operated by Orbest.
 
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:08 pm

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 12):

When I checked the system it still said MAD but it may not be up to date. Thanks for the correction.

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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:13 pm

Well, even though I like seeing those DC-9's and 732's I do look forward to the day that Venezuelan airlines go for much newer generation aircraft. It seems Conviasa is on the right track there with their ERJ190's. I hope to see them here in CUR soon.

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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:06 am

Quoting Loran (Reply 11):
Madrid and Buenos Aires

Btw, does anyone know if Conviasa's ATR-42-400 is still in storage or by chance active again?

the A340 Right Now is parked in the Conviasa´s Hangars the MAD and EZE flight are flying in Air Italy 767 and Orbest A330-200.

About the ATR-42 I see very complicated to be back in service, right now is 1 ATR-72 in service with chhances of the other 2 get back in service
 
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:00 am

The Orbest A330 has been returned and replaced by the Air Italy B767-300(ER).
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:19 am

there are rumors that Conviasa will order some Airbus widebody today in Paris  Wow!
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:32 pm

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 17):
there are rumors that Conviasa will order some Airbus widebody today in Paris

I heard something about A330-200 but let´s see! thanks for the update!

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 16):
The Orbest A330 has been returned and replaced by the Air Italy B767-300(ER).

Yes, I saw the Air Italy yesterday! thanks for the update
 
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:31 pm

Quoting orl777 (Reply 18):
Quoting copa330200 (Reply 17):
there are rumors that Conviasa will order some Airbus widebody today in Paris

I heard something about A330-200 but let´s see! thanks for the update!

I suppose if true, they will also need to order the A320 as narrowbody replacement for fleet commonality purposes.

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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:47 pm

I think it was Bolivia that wanted to ban planes 20+ or 30+ years old. Not sure what the status of it is.
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:25 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 19):
suppose if true, they will also need to order the A320 as narrowbody replacement for fleet commonality purposes.

Well! for them this is not important, remember that Conviasa Uses Airbus, ATR, CRJ, Boeing and Embraer

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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:50 am

Quoting orl777 (Reply 21):
Well! for them this is not important, remember that Conviasa Uses Airbus, ATR, CRJ, Boeing and Embraer

sorry but we need to keep in mind that Conviasa is an "empresa socialista" so they don't really care about the bottom line   
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:09 pm

Quoting orl777 (Reply 21):
Well! for them this is not important, remember that Conviasa Uses Airbus, ATR, CRJ, Boeing and Embraer

Saludos Amigo

I didn't think of that, let's see what's going to happen.

Saludos amigo,

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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:36 pm

 
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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:34 pm

Has there been more information about Conviasa's A332 order? I haven't seen any updates(?)

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RE: Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9

Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:54 am

The international route on 9V [BLA-PTY] 4x weekly is currently utilizing the obsolete 732.
If the Government of Venezuela would ban their international segments involving the mentioned planes, this route will be obviously affected at all.

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