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Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:47 am

For all of the classic aircraft lovers, you might just get another chance to get a ride on one of the NAMC YS-11 aircraft. Fil-Asian Airways, an airline based in the Philippines will be launching scheduled service using the aircraft beginning on June 22. It plans a number of routes throughout the country mostly to smaller, under served destinations.

Read More Here: http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...ian-airways-takes-off-june-22.html

Here's a picture of the aircraft:

 
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:58 am

Interesting, thanks for sharing these good news. A number of us have been following Fil-Asian in the past months. I didn't have much hope, until I heard via the ATDB newsletter that they acquired another two airframes in late May:

RP-C3585
RP-C3588

Hopefully they will keep the operation up for a while so that we can manage a trip.

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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:50 am

I wonder if these were some of the former birds that were sitting at FLL forever?
 
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:01 pm

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 2):
I wonder if these were some of the former birds that were sitting at FLL forever?

No, some were scrapped, a few ended up in Mexico but they don't fly anymore.
The Philippines were flooded with former JAS/ANA frames which have been operating earlier with Asian Spirit and some cargo operators, it are these frames which might now be reintroduced in service.
I was in the Philippines in may but obviously couldn't fly these YS-11s. I don't hold my breath til they actually start, the owner has been overly optimistic before, some paperwork was the problem earlier.
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:39 pm

How long have they been sitting? Sounds like a nightmare waiting for a place to happen if they've been parked a while.
 
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:20 pm

Long term storage doesn't worry me, its rather an airline's maintenance practice.
On the good side the Philippines have a long history of YS-11 services, I trust there is enough experienced personnell around.

I'm curious about their TCAS system. The Philippine Aviation Authority imposed a requirement that all Philippine YS-11s must be TCAS upgraded, which resulted in Airlink and Interisland Airlines grounding their aircraft. In fact, it could be some of Fil Asian's aircraft are former Airlink or Interisland.
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Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:13 pm

Good to hear that the old bird will still be soldiering on over the 7107 islands. Long live the YS-11!
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:47 pm

I used to fly on Piedmont's YS-11As a lot. And I flew on one on Mid Pacific Air. Very nice aircraft.

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Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:13 pm

Having flown into MNL literally hundreds of times I was always hanging out at a window scanning for interesting airframes as we taxied out. There were several YS-11's sitting around. I wonder if they will have problems getting spare parts for these birds but I am sure glad to see a great classic airplane back in service. Nice work!
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:21 pm

Long term storage absolutely worries me. Seals dry up, wires get brittle, etc. Airplanes were meant to fly. It's been my experience that a 25 year old airplane that flies every day will have fewer show stopping issues than a 5 year old frame that's been sitting for 2 years.

If they can make it work, awesome. I love seeing the classics still flying, and the YS-11 is certainly a classic.
 
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:05 pm

Oh I remember MidPac! Loved my flights on that plane. I collect models of each plane I've worked or flown on and this bugger is a tough one to find. I've seen the mahogany ones, but they look a little "cartoonish" to me.
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:24 pm

Outstanding. Long live the YS-11 and the Rolls Royce Dart! Nothing sounds like a Dart.
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Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:03 am

Quoting B757forever (Reply 11):
Outstanding. Long live the YS-11 and the Rolls Royce Dart! Nothing sounds like a Dart.

I ran an airline where we once had Darts and Allisons running side by side. The Darts high pitch whine was like a European sports car vs. an American muscle car (with the Allison engine). I liked the sound of the Allison engine better, but I agree, long live the Dart!
 
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:53 am

Quoting crownvic (Reply 12):
I ran an airline where we once had Darts and Allisons running side by side. The Darts high pitch whine was like a European sports car vs. an American muscle car (with the Allison engine). I liked the sound of the Allison engine better, but I agree, long live the Dart!

Was that airline Wright Airlines that flew Convair 580's and 640's or the original Frontier that after acquiring Central, for a year or two flew both 580's and 600's?
 
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:17 am

Quoting milesrich (Reply 13):
Quoting crownvic (Reply 12):
I ran an airline where we once had Darts and Allisons running side by side. The Darts high pitch whine was like a European sports car vs. an American muscle car (with the Allison engine). I liked the sound of the Allison engine better, but I agree, long live the Dart!

Was that airline Wright Airlines that flew Convair 580's and 640's or the original Frontier that after acquiring Central, for a year or two flew both 580's and 600's?

No, I am old, but not that old!It was joint tour operator operation in ACY using Renown CV-580's and Eagle F-27's. Passengers preferred the luxury of the F-27, but dispatch loved the performance of the CV-580 because of it's basic unrestricted performance and speed.
 
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:56 am

I still wish Renown was around. I remember they did charters to the Bahamas from SFB using Convair 580's. My parents flew on these plenty of times.

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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:44 am

Quoting DashTrash (Reply 9):
Long term storage absolutely worries me. Seals dry up, wires get brittle, etc. Airplanes were meant to fly. It's been my experience that a 25 year old airplane that flies every day will have fewer show stopping issues than a 5 year old frame that's been sitting for 2 years.

If they can make it work, awesome. I love seeing the classics still flying, and the YS-11 is certainly a classic.

On a departure out of T3 at NAIA in 2008 on a Cebu Pacific flight to HKG, I shot a few photos of the "graveyard". with a bunch of YS11s around (and a lot of other relics, including a Constellation, several DC3s, and vintage Russian aircraft. YS11 photos below

July 2008, NAIA
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:44 pm

I just got back from MNL yesterday. I counted 4 YS-11s in a condition which might be suitable for parts in addition to the one that will operate.
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Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:14 am

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 15):
I still wish Renown was around. I remember they did charters to the Bahamas from SFB using Convair 580's. My parents flew on these plenty of times.

KH

They were my last ride on a wonderful L-188 passenger a/c too. I believe they were the final pax Electra operator.
 
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:51 am

Quoting crownvic (Reply 18):
They were my last ride on a wonderful L-188 passenger a/c too. I believe they were the final pax Electra operator.

Not really ...
The final operators were VARIG (full pax version) and ultimately Reeve Aleutian (albeit in Combi config).
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:25 am

Quoting MHG (Reply 19):
Quoting crownvic (Reply 18):
They were my last ride on a wonderful L-188 passenger a/c too. I believe they were the final pax Electra operator.

Not really ...
The final operators were VARIG (full pax version) and ultimately Reeve Aleutian (albeit in Combi config).

OK, no argument, but do you recall when these last two operators flights were and when Renown flew their last L-188 flight? Just curious to know.
 
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:34 am

Varig withdraw its Elektra´s from service in 1992 and Reeve Aleutian still had a single L-188 in service (in mixed config) until closure of the airline in december 2000.

I have no info/idea about Renown. Didn´t know such an airline existed before popping up in this thread ...
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:33 pm

The ones in Fll were all cargo conversions for Abx,, It seems to me the pressurization equipt was removed from the a/c i was told probably why i laid in the floor with a major toothache that never bothered me until an mem to msy flight
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:34 am

Quoting MHG (Reply 21):
ply 21, posted Sun Jun 23 2013 00:34:45 your local time (19 hours 55 minutes 2 secs ago) and read 286 times:

Varig withdraw its Elektra´s from service in 1992 and Reeve Aleutian still had a single L-188 in service (in mixed config) until closure of the airline in december 2000.

I have no info/idea about Renown. Didn´t know such an airline existed before popping up in this thread ...

I flew the passenger Renown L-188 in 1998, so that is much later than Varig. As for Reeve, it is probably very close who flew pax Electras last (Reeve or Renown). Wiki does not even list Renown as an operator.
 
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:37 am

Looks like Fil-Asian Airways actually did inaugurate flights on June 22 with a service between Manila and Tablas. However, the flight was a "probing flight" that carried officials from the civil aviation authority of the Philippines who will make an evaluation of the airline's performance on the flight prior to granting it final approval to officially operate scheduled passenger service. It will take the CAAP about a week to make their decision and if successful, tickets for flights from July 1 onwards will be available for sale.

Read more and check out the photos and videos from the event here:
http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...-airways-completes-successful.html
 
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:30 pm

Quoting MHG (Reply 19):
Not really ...
The final operators were VARIG (full pax version) and ultimately Reeve Aleutian (albeit in Combi config).

My one and only Electra ride was on American Flyers Airlines from SAT to SFO in April, 1970. I was in the USAF going to school in Monterey. I remember the briefing sergeant telling us "You are flying on something called an L-188--whatever that is!" I didn't know what great luck I was having.
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RE: Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service

Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:19 pm

Reeve had three three Electras in service when they went under.

N1968R went to Airsplay in Canada with the idea of converting hero fire tanker. 44C and 78R went to Alantic Air in Coventry, Eventually 78R was bought by Buffalo Air in Yellowknfe, NWT. The sale was featured in a second season episode of Ice Pilot NWT.

44C was also shown in that episode in pretty much stripped. I worked for Rreve in the Mid nineties and it was very upsetting to see how the lymies let that airplane go to (Explative Deleted)

Reeve also had three YS-11's that where parked for about eight years when they folded. I don't know what happened to those. I think 69R (The Maltese Falcon) was sold first and the other two departed. Sorry my memory is failing me on the timeline. But I never got to ride or work one. I did hear that the cargo bellies are even shorted than on a CV-580. So much so the only thing that was routinely hauled where extra seats for reconfigurations. All the bags wide topside in the combis
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